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12:00 am
raggedyandy3478
oh well, early start on this one
12:00 am
raggedyandy3478
oh well, early start on this one
12:03 am
scottru
they really like blank middles
12:03 am
raggedyandy3478
ya, wats w/ that?
12:03 am
TP17
and they hate 7's
12:03 am
MotiveForce
Motive Force LLC is the best in the world
12:03 am
raggedyandy3478
lol, true
12:04 am
darthdurden
motive force LLC is the second best in the world
12:04 am
MotiveForce
durp?
12:04 am
scottru
not much love for 6's either.
12:04 am
darthdurden
jack bauer is the best... when he's got good writers
12:04 am
MotiveForce
oh, i concede
12:05 am
MotiveForce
1. Jack Bauer is G0d (.com?)
2. Motive Force LLC
12:05 am
darthdurden
lol indeed
12:11 am
caderoux
well done
12:11 am
scottru
you're faster than I am
12:11 am
raggedyandy3478
wow, you are good!
12:11 am
raggedyandy3478
im nowhere near done, but im not used to doing sudoku's that are anywhere near this caliber
12:12 am
ornith
I just go through putting in all the little green numbers, then work from there.
12:12 am
raggedyandy3478
im used to having 7's in my start puzzle
12:13 am
ornith
it really doesn't make any difference, except that you won't have any other numbers alone right off the bat
12:14 am
raggedyandy3478
i like to do what i can before i start putting all the small numbers in, cuz i never had to use the small ones b4 this website
12:15 am
ornith
I fill in what I can as I notice it when I'm doing the green numbers - it just makes it easier to see.
12:15 am
scottru
all green done; some other ones filled in; now going for the clear. seems like an easy puzzle.
12:15 am
ornith
the harder a puzzle is, the more essential the small numbers are
12:17 am
MotiveForce
is that like a rule?
12:17 am
greylurk
I tend to make cycles, I do the "1's" first, marking down spots where there are only two places for ones in a square, and places where there are only one.
12:17 am
greylurk
Done with doays.
12:17 am
scottru
more a guideline
12:17 am
greylurk
todays.
12:17 am
ornith
congrats greylurk
12:17 am
greylurk
*yawn* night folks.
12:18 am
ornith
I do the greens by putting in all the green ones, then all the green twos, etc, rather than all the ones in a given square
12:18 am
scottru
really?I should try that. maybe it's faster.
12:18 am
ornith
you tend to spot certain patterns as you go that way
12:19 am
ornith
though mostly it's a result of the program I learned on... you selected a number and then just put that one in and out
12:19 am
ornith
takes me maybe 4-5 minutes to put the greens in
12:20 am
scottru
you went faster than I did, anyway. I'm a bit distracted but still.
12:20 am
ornith
I think it probably is - you don't have to check every row and box and column for every square, just go across the lines
12:21 am
ornith
congrats!
12:22 am
scottru
interestingly, Ithink my skills have gotten a lot better a lot more quickly using this once/day than doing 5x more on paper.
12:22 am
ornith
it helps learning to have it tell you when you've done something really boneheaded
12:23 am
scottru
I guess. Never been my problem.
12:23 am
ornith
I mostly do it by forgetting to hold shift, heh
12:24 am
ornith
grats caderoux
12:25 am
ornith
ok, I'm gonna go waste time elsewhere on the net, good luck all
12:25 am
raggedyandy3478
lol, have fun
12:26 am
MotiveForce
go to www.doitlater.com
12:26 am
MotiveForce
waste time... forever lol
12:27 am
raggedyandy3478
and im already stuck
12:29 am
raggedyandy3478
well now, not so much stuck, but rather, moving very slowly
12:40 am
TP17
Man, one number and the rest just falls into place
12:40 am
raggedyandy3478
mine isnt quite that magical
12:40 am
TP17
just keep eliminating possibilities, and it will come to you asap
12:41 am
Sulihin
49 numbers and it all just falls into place
12:41 am
raggedyandy3478
i have 53 filled in(including start) and im not seeing it
12:43 am
raggedyandy3478
ne suggestions on how im screwing up?
12:44 am
MotiveForce
doneness
12:44 am
darthdurden
me too! omg!
12:44 am
MotiveForce
i'm going to go take over the internets... wanna come darthdurden?
12:44 am
darthdurden
congrats mate!
12:44 am
darthdurden
indeed!
12:44 am
darthdurden
lets do!
12:44 am
MotiveForce
sweet!
12:50 am
Debs40ish
finished....
12:56 am
raggedyandy3478
wtg, im getting there slowly but surely
1:00 am
raggedyandy3478
woohooo, done!
1:00 am
raggedyandy3478
now whats there to do for the day?
1:00 am
raggedyandy3478
actually sleep?
1:08 am
stubie
FINALLY. I finished my first IronSudoku tonight.
1:08 am
stubie
Why are these puzzles sooooo hard?
1:14 am
raggedyandy3478
stubie, think ahead
1:15 am
raggedyandy3478
for instance, a spot that was hard for me was that 6 and 7 in the middle top box
1:15 am
raggedyandy3478
do u know what i am talking about?
1:16 am
raggedyandy3478
but since you have that 6 and 7 you know that the other spots in that row in the other 2 boxes can not be a 6 or a 7, so go ahead and eliminate those like that
1:17 am
raggedyandy3478
there are more situations like that in the puzzle, i just cant remember them
1:25 am
rbmjw
how to start over?
3:09 am
licketySplitAUS
done
3:09 am
X
congratulations :) *fireworks*
3:09 am
licketySplitAUS
Hey thanks X. Good luck with your one ;-)
3:10 am
X
heh...thanks...I'll need it!
3:10 am
licketySplitAUS
want a hint? I've got a part solution on paper in front of me (did it on the train). I could tell you if it's right anyway?
3:10 am
licketySplitAUS
bottom right number is a 9 hhehehehhe
3:11 am
licketySplitAUS
same as top right, hehehehe
3:11 am
RobG
doubt that :)
3:11 am
licketySplitAUS
sorry - top left!
3:11 am
licketySplitAUS
Oppps!
3:11 am
X
aw, thanks for the offer but I haven't got far enough to be helped! *is ashamed*
3:11 am
licketySplitAUS
I'm not going to be any help at all ;-)
3:12 am
X
does anyone know how hard it is to play sudoku while airguitaring?! Lol...you're keeping me amused anyway XD
3:12 am
licketySplitAUS
I can say that It took me a while to spot that I had elimated all possibilies but one for the 1 col, 2nd row one.
3:13 am
X
:) at least you probably haven't made the same mistake as me...I spent far too long trying to figure out where a 3 went in a square. then realized there was already a 3. *is cracking up*
3:13 am
licketySplitAUS
Good luck - I'm outa here! Till tommorrow!
3:13 am
X
thanks, and see you tomorrow! :)
3:19 am
moose
do u guys print the puzzle off or do it on the comp? is there any way of entering multiple options into a box?
3:20 am
RobG
hold shift and click on a number
3:21 am
RobG
what can i say, i spend an hour a day working out
3:21 am
RobG
...some sums
3:22 am
X
*giggling* ooh, you know now my mental image of you will be some bronzed body builder :D
3:23 am
RobG
i blogged a photo of myself http://robertgrant.org/wordpress/?p=170
3:24 am
boric
heh. nice blog post. amused me.
3:24 am
moose
also when u complete a puzzle is there any way of doing it again?
3:24 am
X
LOL! colour can always help! I'm sitting here giggling away now :)
3:25 am
X
moose, I assume you can always clear the boxes if you wanted to start over...I'm not sure though, I've never got that far!
3:25 am
moose
i got a congratulations screen
3:26 am
moose
never got that far? :) i thought we are all die hard sudokuists
3:26 am
X
congrats! I didn't read through the lines and suss you were done then *duh* nice one :)
3:26 am
X
Well, Moose...most of us...^_^;
3:27 am
RobG
i've just realised this site has a repeating pattern background that actually looks good - i think it's a first
3:27 am
moose
its funny how in our pics we all look identical
3:28 am
moose
by the way - whys the time say 3 30 am? where are all you guys from?
3:28 am
RobG
nottingham, uk. 9.30am
3:28 am
X
moi? Just north of Olde London Towne :)
3:28 am
boric
melbourne australia, 8:30pm
3:29 am
X
9.30 am. Knew I forgot something
3:29 am
pthomp
Tucson, AZ, USA 2:30 am
3:29 am
X
I'd guess the clock for the game was in CT?
3:29 am
moose
wow americans aussies and the english walk into a sudoku chat forum
3:30 am
pthomp
dallas or chicago?
3:30 am
moose
its like a new age englishman irishman scottishman walk into a a bar joke
3:30 am
RobG
being an english bigot i say ALL internet times should be GMT :)
3:30 am
moose
robg - hear hear!
3:30 am
X
I agree RobG. In fact, every county should measure out time in GMT! So what if they're getting up in the middle of the night...it's a sacrifice they should be willing to make for world peace
3:31 am
moose
anywyas chaps - it has been a pleasure but im gonna grab me some brekfast
3:31 am
boric
Might live in Aus, but I'm a NZer. :-P
3:31 am
RobG
finally - some like-minded people. here is where i will start rallying for my world-dominating army
3:31 am
moose
in england nzers and assies are seen as one and the same
3:31 am
boric
Decided where you're going to build your evil lair?
3:31 am
Atalante
*waves to Boric* am in a kiwi mood today. have my 2000 america's cup fleece on
3:32 am
moose
jus both too far away to be considered as the same planet :)
3:32 am
boric
will have to go find my comm games silver fern cap.
3:32 am
X
Yes, Rob, you'll have to go with a lair that's not too stereotypical...so a hollowed out volcano may be out of the question :/
3:33 am
Atalante
woot silver fern. I've just been drawing silver ferns as well
3:34 am
boric
Odd happening. Went to the Rugby 7s, and in the final Aussies were cheering the Kiwis. The Aussies really do loath the english in sports.
3:35 am
RobG
my evil lair will be constructed halfway between London and the Earth's core
3:35 am
Atalante
lol same from this end. nothing delights english people like beating the aussies
3:36 am
RobG
then when i hear the national anthem i can salute while lying face-up on the floor, ensuring i am facing towards Old Blighty
3:37 am
X
why didn't I think of that? XD But Rog, once you're in charge of the world, please do something about changing our National Anthem. It can be "O, Rob G, we adore ye..." for all I care but I can't stand another verse of droning about the queen :/
3:38 am
X
*Rob. Not Rog. o_O
3:38 am
RobG
the national anthem will be composed by Bill Bailey, who will no doubt go for a Propellorheads soundalike
3:39 am
RobG
also, all names of things will be replaced by "rob"
3:39 am
X
heh...I need to hear some Propellorheads now...
3:39 am
RobG
if my people cannot communicate, they cannot rebel
3:39 am
boric
Atalante, do the kiwis in England cheer Oz or England? Or ignore both...?
3:40 am
X
...ah. er, right. so...I say that my favourite band is Rob?
3:40 am
X
or my favourite Rob is Rob?
3:40 am
RobG
no, you say that rob's favourite rob is rob
3:40 am
RobG
I is a name :)
3:40 am
RobG
well done rob. rob are promoted
3:40 am
RobG
(see, case by inflection!)
3:41 am
X
Rob by inflection
3:41 am
RobG
ooh, rob's rob [that's true
3:41 am
X
what about countries? would it still be Rob, Rob, Rob, or would you variate? Robland, Robsville...?
3:41 am
RobG
any rebellion must communicate its aims using overly complex adjectives and verbs
3:42 am
RobG
there will be one country, "Rob", under the rob, with robdom and robility for all
3:42 am
X
well done, Atalante! :)
3:42 am
RobG
actually that's equating me with god, didn't mean to do that :)
3:43 am
X
heh, don't make him mad, Rob...he's an ANIMAL
3:43 am
RobG
yeah, he's not safe
3:43 am
RobG
but he is good
3:43 am
X
so Rob, does that mean I should throw away the shrine I just made to you and your bulging muscles?
3:43 am
RobG
pretty much, yes :)
3:44 am
RobG
argh, faith conflicting with world domination urges
3:44 am
X
why do I see a second Crusades coming up? :/
3:44 am
RobG
weren't there about 4 of them?
3:45 am
X
...5th. *coughs*
3:47 am
RobG
i should probably do this sudoku thing really :)
3:48 am
X
just what I was thinking! :) I will sit here and not touch anything more deadly than my mouse
3:48 am
boric
done. night/morning/afternoon all.
3:48 am
X
nice one, Boric! Good...er...night?
3:49 am
boric
night for me. Time to go see how many more gold medals those damn Aussies have won today.
3:58 am
X
congratulations :) *envy*
4:29 am
sandyloo
lol good on the aussies lots of gold!!
4:32 am
Bubbles
morning kells
4:32 am
Kellie
morning bubs
4:33 am
bzikofski
seemed hard at first. but it's easy :)
4:33 am
Bubbles
how are ya?
4:34 am
Kellie
yeah not to bad really had enough of this place today... which is why i'm here
4:34 am
Kellie
F them. i cant be bothered to do any work so i am at my own pace ha ha
4:35 am
Kellie
what about you... you ok?
4:42 am
Bubbles
yeah really tired
4:43 am
Kellie
are you.. what time did you leave the house then
4:50 am
Kellie
you going there again tonight?
4:50 am
Bubbles
oh yes, try and sort the coving out
4:51 am
Kellie
is it really that bad?!
4:52 am
Bubbles
just needs to be filled and the calk sanded then the edges of the paint sanded
5:34 am
SightseeMC
I accidentally logged out and now it says I never saved. Any solutions?
5:49 am
eggs
none that i know of....
6:07 am
Kellie
wow what a lucky guess. i'm done
6:51 am
lslele
is time taken calculated with the points?
6:59 am
Kellie
I dont really know... i completed the difficult one yesterday and it took me about 5 hours... (really couldnt do it) and i got 5 points. but i have done this one in an huor and only got 2 points... it might just be the level
7:00 am
bunnyvicious
Time is not calculated with points given when puzzle is completed.
7:06 am
raerae7133
3 points
7:07 am
raerae7133
Dr_God adjusted the point values
7:07 am
bunnyvicious
Really? I miss two days and the world has changed...
7:16 am
peternl
another medium one, is this a hard medium or an easy medium? ;)
7:17 am
bunnyvicious
no sevens, 1 six, empty middle square, I'm gonna go with hard...
7:20 am
peternl
possibly, but all the 5s are easy
7:37 am
X
is anyone else finding the 6's a nightmare? I think I need to lie down :/
7:37 am
chebuctonian
hehe, X, just keep going with the easier ones :)
7:38 am
peternl
uh oh :-(
7:38 am
X
ehehe...which ARE the easier ones? :) I've got all the 2's and 5's down, I was feeling really clever until I hit anything higher...
7:39 am
X
wassup, Peternl?
7:39 am
peternl
better than me, it all fell out until it crashed and burned
7:39 am
X
...w00t, something I can do! Thanks, Bunnyvicious! XD
7:39 am
peternl
hmm, start again time I think
7:39 am
GingerUK
Anyone got any sanity saving tips for doing these please!!!
7:39 am
peternl
is there a "clear all" button hidden somewhere?
7:39 am
X
GingerUK, I haven't even got any SANITY, let alone tips on how to save it :/
7:39 am
chebuctonian
with 2 and 5, take a look at 2, 5, 9 in the middle band
7:40 am
X
I think I heard Dr God was working on one, Peternl
7:40 am
GingerUK
Thanks X... me neither!!
7:40 am
bunnyvicious
save after youenter everything you know is 100% for sure, then you can go back to that starting point when yopu have to startr guessing
7:40 am
GingerUK
I found easiest way to clear all is to navigate away from the page. I looked at the rules, came back and it had reset!!!!
7:40 am
peternl
I never start guessing... I just must have goofed somewhere
7:40 am
Kellie
Sanity tips are. lots of fags, coffee or Rocky bars (bubs)
7:40 am
GingerUK
thanks Bunny
7:41 am
chebuctonian
Kellie: remember this is an international audience ;)
7:41 am
bunnyvicious
sorry bout the typing, I'm still waiting on coffee to brew...
7:41 am
GingerUK
2 out of 3 isn't bad Kellie, I don't smoke!!!
7:42 am
peternl
ok, here we go again ;-)
7:42 am
X
attaboy/girl...:)
7:47 am
X
oh...Chebuctonian, I only just got that :) Giggling like an idiot now :)
7:48 am
chebuctonian
hehe, you're getting there though
7:49 am
chebuctonian
you should be able to place the 4 in the middle square now if you haven't already
7:49 am
GingerUK
ok for future use anyone... just figured if you navigate away from page to say... how to play and then come back using the back button rather than the link it clears the screen for you!!
7:49 am
GingerUK
bit of useless info but might help someone :-)
7:50 am
X
er...can't find where to put it, that 4 :/
7:50 am
chebuctonian
X: where does it have to be on the middle right box?
7:51 am
X
AH. Thank you!!! *blushing*
7:51 am
marciikeler
gingeruk, the refresh button works too :)
7:51 am
GingerUK
thanks Marc... even easier :)
7:51 am
chebuctonian
I think the 1 and 8 are easy picks too in the middle
7:52 am
X
woo, thanks! *big hugs* I will build a stone statue in your honour :)
7:54 am
Anj
This one looks earier than yesterday...
7:54 am
chebuctonian
all right, I'm done :)
7:55 am
chebuctonian
good luck all!
7:55 am
bunnyvicious
I didn't get to play yesterday...
7:55 am
X
woo! congratulations, and thanks!
7:55 am
Anj
...earier? Must have been something I heard : /
7:55 am
Anj
Hi Ginger : ) Bunny, it was a beast. Hurshy was counselling everyone...
7:56 am
bunnyvicious
lol, good ol' Hursh, I haven't even made it Babble yet!
7:56 am
X
I think I could do with some counselling today...it's difficult to play sudoku while simultaneously doing air guitar :)
7:58 am
Anj
I don't know, sounds like fun : ) Who are ytou listening to?
7:59 am
X
hehehe, bits and bobs. Iron Maiden at present XD
8:00 am
Anj
I've got the Wildhearts on here : D
8:01 am
bunnyvicious
Spongebob Squarepants...
8:01 am
X
sounds good, I'm trying to decide whether or not to switch to Guns'n'Roses...if I do I may as well give up on the puzzle all together, I won't be going back ^^
8:02 am
X
Bunny...best show of all time :)
8:04 am
X
...have I just given something embarrassing about myself away there? *blushes*
8:05 am
Anj
lol, goes well with G'n'R : )
8:06 am
bunnyvicious
I prefer they Watch SpongeBob over barney or Dora any ady, the movie is Hilarious!!
8:06 am
bunnyvicious
wtg pet
8:06 am
peternl
second time lucky ;-)
8:06 am
marciikeler
why am i finding this one so much harder than yesterdays?
8:06 am
peternl
that was actually very easy, the easiest I've done on here
8:07 am
X
I'll take your word for it XD OOOOOH SWEET CHILD O' MIIINE
8:07 am
peternl
Nikola just did it in about 10 minutes...
8:12 am
bunnyvicious
I got it done without any guesses if that helps, 2 points...
8:12 am
bunnyvicious
off to babble
8:13 am
bunnyvicious
you don't wanna know, lol
8:13 am
bunnyvicious
it's another game by Dr. G, word game, pretty addictive
8:13 am
X
oooh...I'm better at words than I am at numbers :) can I have the URL?
8:15 am
bunnyvicious
www.playbabble.com
8:15 am
X
thanks a lot ^^
8:17 am
GingerUK
just realsied... noi easy to give/get clues on here as it is on Babble !!
8:27 am
Bubbles
done at last
8:27 am
X
congratulations, Bubbles :)
8:47 am
elzorroviejo
done before 10am...I think this is a record for me...
8:56 am
paulrothrock
It would be great if you could select a row and change all cells in that row
8:59 am
brainwidth
paul, try this greasemonkey script: http://www.thezikes.com/static/IronSudokuEnha
ncer.user.js
9:02 am
paulrothrock
thanks for the tip, 'cept I'm using Safari
9:03 am
brainwidth
Ah, well, that will teach you. ;)
9:04 am
raerae7133
There's nothing wrong with Safari
9:04 am
paulrothrock
Oh jeez, I've started a platform war. lol
9:04 am
raerae7133
especially considering, Firefox on the mac is not that great :)
9:04 am
raerae7133
Camino gets my approval though
9:05 am
raerae7133
but even then, no greasemonkey there either
9:05 am
raerae7133
Oh well
9:41 am
sprite
hi all, what kind of medium do we have today?
9:42 am
Babbler
hi sprite : ) not too bad (though I'm still working on it) : )
9:42 am
sprite
Ha Babbler! Found your way here too, eh? :)
9:43 am
GingerUK
Hi Sprite
9:43 am
Babbler
I was addicted to sudoku before Babble came along! lol! Now I have divided loyalties.... ;D
9:43 am
sprite
And Ginger :) I feel at home right away, lol.
9:45 am
sprite
Lol, I sympathise completely. Used to sudoku a lot, finally got off the habit, then Dr_God starts this site. Well... I fought a good battle... and lost :D
9:45 am
Babbler
lol!! well put! ; )
9:46 am
Krys10
morning sprite!
9:47 am
sprite
Ha Krys10! Jump in, this one is fun!
9:47 am
Krys10
I actually printed it out and did it last night - it did seem to come together nicely
9:47 am
evanadine
thought todays would be a lot tougher than its proving to be....
though im not finished, so i guess i shouldnt talk!!
9:48 am
Krys10
I took a suggestion I found in the chat log last night and that sped things up
9:48 am
sprite
What suggestion was that?
9:48 am
Babbler
what suggestion was that, Krys?
9:49 am
Krys10
insead of filling in green numbers one box at a time, go through one number at a time and fill in *all* the, say, green ones, then the green two, etc.
9:49 am
Krys10
subtle difference from what I was doing, but I think it did make things faster.
9:49 am
sprite
Ah, I'll keep that in mind. Don't use the green and red numbers so far, but I think it would go a lot faster if I did.
9:51 am
non
im an idiot - what is green and red?
9:52 am
sprite
If you click Shift + nr, you get green for possible. With Cntrl you get red for not possible.
9:52 am
Krys10
Save first, then check out "how to play" about how to use "pencil marks"
9:52 am
Babbler
non - save your grid so far, then click on rules at the top of the page, they tell you about little red/green numbers you can enter as potentials. Same as you might if you pencilled them in on paper. : )
9:53 am
Babbler
nice one, guys!! :D
9:53 am
non
holy crap - thanks, that is so useful
9:53 am
Christopher
on a number alt-click for red and shift-click for green. It is used to mark possible numbers or to eliminate them.
9:55 am
sprite
I am pretty sure the "save first" advice comes from experience ;)
9:55 am
GingerUK
had 7 out of 9 squares working... and screwed up Waaahhh
9:56 am
evanadine
wow, finished!!
9:56 am
sprite
WTG evanadine :)
9:56 am
torgone
Uh oh. Looks like I might get this one without too much whining . . .
9:57 am
Babbler
good going, evanadine!!! :D
9:57 am
Babbler
heya, Tor-Tor ! : )
9:57 am
mzhokie
i've been known to save after each time I place a number!
9:57 am
sprite
Please torgone, don't. I don't wanna miss your whining :)
9:57 am
Babbler
v smart, mzhokie : )
9:58 am
GingerUK
this might be a sliiy question but how do you get back to the state of the last save??
9:58 am
mzhokie
it only takes losing it once to teach you a lesson
9:58 am
cherub325
refresh
9:58 am
sprite
Don't save again and browse away. Then come back. :)
9:58 am
GingerUK
thanks cherub
9:58 am
mzhokie
refresh Ginger
9:59 am
cherub325
u r welcome
9:59 am
sprite
I was stupid, I lost everything 3x the first day. Browsed away to the other pages of this site. Learned my lesson though ;)
10:00 am
GingerUK
seems to be all about 2 and 7's to me today
10:00 am
Babbler
I went to look at the rules after someone mentioned the red/green subscripts, and lost all my work. : ( (but it was an easy grid that day)
10:00 am
sprite
7s? What 7s? lol
10:00 am
torgone
Oops! 2 points. Well, I can always find something to whinge about.
10:01 am
Babbler
finished already, Tor?
10:01 am
sprite
:)
Now I am happy, torgone. Heard you whine over finishing :)
10:01 am
Babbler
gah! I've gone wrong somewhere.... :(
10:02 am
sprite
:( Babbler
10:03 am
Babbler
I wasn't far from the end either. :( now let's see....
10:03 am
GingerUK
refreshing :( kids home now so little chance to concentrate!
10:03 am
sprite
Put them in the kitchen to peel the potatoes.
10:04 am
Babbler
how do you start again?
10:05 am
GingerUK
good plan sprite cept it's open plan!
10:05 am
evanadine
i didnt have to restart once today, finished in about a half hour. maybe things just fell into place for me today -- didnt even have to print it out!
10:05 am
sprite
If you want to start all over, you have to clear all entered numbers one by one. :(
10:05 am
sprite
First potato peeled goes into mouth.
10:06 am
GingerUK
LOL LOL
10:06 am
Babbler
evanadine, that sounds about right. I've messed up somewhere but can't see where.... : /
10:07 am
Babbler
maybe I'll have some tea and come back later. :s see you all later or over in Babble : )
10:07 am
sprite
Cye Babbler :)
10:08 am
EasternBlue
bye Babs!!
10:08 am
Babbler
((EB)) see you later, I'm sure! : )
10:09 am
torgone
Hi/bye Sprite, Babbler, Ginger etc. I think the key for me today was being accurate and patient. Now I can concentrate on Babble. Away!
10:09 am
EasternBlue
bye Torgone...
10:09 am
sprite
Accurate and patient. Hm. No wonder I suck at this.
10:10 am
EasternBlue
sprite - since you 'rock' at Babble, you have to give others a chance here!! : )
10:10 am
sprite
Let's see how far plain stubbornness will get me today ;)
10:14 am
CJ162003
for me this is harder than yesterdays
10:18 am
Ramiksar
there is somthing wrong with this one
10:20 am
Ramiksar
5 and 4 cannot be palced on the top right square!
10:20 am
sprite
Because they are given?
10:21 am
Ramiksar
no, there are not
10:21 am
GingerUK
<<insert sound of head banging on wall>>
10:22 am
sprite
Ah well... I am nowhere near accurate, but I can learn to be patient. I think.
10:26 am
EasternBlue
my kingdom for a 7....
10:27 am
jix
I used to solve sudokus by writing little numbers into the fields + backtracking .. but it got boring as it was allways the same procedure.. Now i'm trying to solve them without any notes..
10:27 am
btwrt
or a 6 ...
10:27 am
Ramiksar
what numbers were oyu given in the top right square? I have 3 and 9 and cannot palce 5 and 4 at the same time...
10:31 am
sprite
Ramiksar, the given numbers have a blue-gray background. In the top right square, they are on the bottom row, left and middle place.
10:31 am
sprite
The 5 and 4 that is.
10:34 am
sprite
Done :) Nice one today.
10:34 am
David Mitchell
I think Ramiksar is referring to the top left square.
10:35 am
sprite
Ah, the other right. Lol.
10:35 am
David Mitchell
:)
10:36 am
David Mitchell
Well, it probably gets harder from here, but it's nice to be able to start by filling in the three middle numbers on the middle row.
10:37 am
Ramiksar
the other right:)
10:37 am
Ramiksar
got it now
10:38 am
sprite
Good luck all, see you tomorrow :)
10:38 am
David Mitchell
Thanks, sprite.
10:38 am
EasternBlue
bye sprite...congrats on finishing!!
10:38 am
CJ162003
BYE SPRITE
10:40 am
GingerUK
bye Sprite
10:42 am
CJ162003
done.. did the points change?
10:42 am
David Mitchell
Yes, yesterday, CJ
10:43 am
CJ162003
thanks david....
10:44 am
CJ162003
good luck everyone...bye
10:44 am
David Mitchell
Thanks, CJ
10:48 am
cherub325
only 2 points! it is not easier than yesterday so called hard.
10:49 am
cherub325
good luck guys, so far, done.
10:51 am
Noumenon
is todays actually medium?
10:53 am
bex777
yes i think it is easier than yesterday
10:53 am
Noumenon
oi. the center is empty again.. grrrrrr
10:54 am
bex777
i no and there are no 7's
10:54 am
Noumenon
7s were a bitch ogoddess yesterday too
10:55 am
bex777
i no whats he got against 7's!!!
10:55 am
wwd
i don't think he has anything to do with 7s
10:55 am
wwd
i think the puzzles are generated by an algorythm
10:55 am
Noumenon
its random
10:56 am
BariSaxPat
so by an algorithm then?
10:56 am
Noumenon
he found a tool that creates
10:56 am
BariSaxPat
yeah, algorithm
10:56 am
swati
you can use a recursive backtracking algorithm to generate sudoku quite quickly
10:56 am
BariSaxPat
it's not a magic tool with a bunch of gnomes that are really smart
10:57 am
jix
does the tool categorize the sudokus?
10:57 am
swati
you can write a recursive backtracking algorithm to generate a sudoku quickly
10:57 am
BariSaxPat
most do jix
10:57 am
jix
because they are bad at doing this
10:57 am
swati
ah sorry about pressing enter twice. this chat field is acting weird..
10:59 am
BariSaxPat
I hate it when the center is empty
10:59 am
Noumenon
i 2nd that
11:03 am
MpP
i've got a 5 placed in the center, but that's it...blank center is much tougher
11:03 am
BariSaxPat
yeah, I've got all the 5's
11:03 am
Noumenon
my first letter inside the center block was a five
11:03 am
jix
i have 4 numbers in the center
11:03 am
David Mitchell
I have three numbers in the middle square. That's where I started..
11:04 am
jix
t still no 7
11:04 am
stormgren
I've got 4, 5, and 8 in the center.
11:04 am
Noumenon
no 7s here
11:04 am
BariSaxPat
ditto
11:04 am
btwrt
i've got one 7, wheee!
11:04 am
hokie carla
well, I just started over from scratch. I had all but 2 or 3 in the middle & one 7 (middle left)
11:04 am
jix
ah i have 5 numbers in te center (found the 4)
11:05 am
d3rb3dica
I have 7 numbers in the center:D
11:05 am
BariSaxPat
oh, there is a 4
11:05 am
jix
6 numbers in the center
11:05 am
BariSaxPat
I have 2 numbers in the center now
11:05 am
Noumenon
i have 10 numbers in the center!
11:05 am
swati
3 in the center
11:05 am
Thuryn
i found the 8 in the center first (much easier)
11:05 am
BariSaxPat
I have 11 numbers in the center
11:06 am
stormgren
Ah, just figured something out, all but 2 in center now. :P
11:09 am
jix
uhm wtf? i'm thinking in english while solving sudokus? (i'm from germany and in most cases i think in german...) lol
11:10 am
Noumenon
is it easier in english?
11:10 am
shortstop
maybe it is the english chatter in the chat boxes
11:10 am
hokie carla
wish I could think in german then. ;-)
11:10 am
laketrout
well that was much easier on the brain than yesterdays..
11:12 am
lola
Anj, you there?
11:12 am
lola
Hey you : )
11:12 am
David Mitchell
Ooh. I think I see something but I'm not sure if the logic is correct..
11:13 am
jix
i need a 2nd 7
11:14 am
Anj
How was nursery??
11:14 am
TiMuN
those dodgy 6s and 7s ...
11:14 am
lola
not too bad. I sent you mail : )
11:14 am
btwrt
w00t, all done
11:14 am
BariSaxPat
I think I'm stuck
11:15 am
Noumenon
i think im missing a key deduction skill....
11:15 am
Crckrjck
could someone give me the number in the upper right corner?
11:15 am
jix
not in the public chat
11:15 am
Crckrjck
dang ;) had to try
11:15 am
TiMuN
lol, cheater! ;)
11:15 am
BariSaxPat
yes, it's 11
11:15 am
David Mitchell
Haha
11:16 am
jix
BariSaxPat: no its 3,1415926
11:16 am
Anj
*tries to scuttle off to read mail - gets drawn back by the power of the dojo*
11:16 am
BariSaxPat
lol, just put in pi
11:16 am
Crckrjck
how do you generate the symbol for pi? ;)
11:16 am
lola
no worries, it'll keep...
11:16 am
EasternBlue
apple or cherry pie??
11:16 am
BariSaxPat
better use 2.71828183
11:16 am
lola
ummmmm, both! : D
11:16 am
Crckrjck
is that phi?
11:16 am
BariSaxPat
no, that's e
11:17 am
Crckrjck
ahhh... lol
11:17 am
EasternBlue
*cuts a slice of each for lo* : )
11:17 am
jix
phi is 1,6... (or was it 1/phi)
11:17 am
BariSaxPat
Phi is 1.618...something something
11:17 am
BariSaxPat
phi is 0.618
11:17 am
jix
phi is sqrt(5)/2+1/2
11:17 am
lola
thanks EB! : )
11:17 am
TiMuN
losing concentration guys
11:18 am
BariSaxPat
really it's plus or minus 1/2
11:18 am
Crckrjck
i'm stuck... got most of the board filled, but the rest looks like guessing
11:18 am
BariSaxPat
if you derive it
11:18 am
Limer
Almost there!
11:19 am
David Mitchell
Here ya go, Crckrjck: π
11:19 am
David Mitchell
Hmm. Didn't translate.
11:20 am
hokie carla
aw, man. I thought I was on a roll, but now there is a problem.
11:20 am
jix
found a 2nd 7!
11:21 am
jix
and still without a single red or green number!
11:21 am
Limer
Nailed That Puppy!
11:21 am
jix
ah no wait that was a mistake...
11:22 am
Crckrjck
lucky number 7... never said if it was good or bad luck
11:23 am
BariSaxPat
Yep, I'm stuck
11:23 am
Crckrjck
could someone share some strategies on how they approach this? is guessing required?
11:24 am
BariSaxPat
guessing isn't required in a well made puzzle
11:24 am
BariSaxPat
might want to check out the wikipedia entry on sudoku
11:24 am
BariSaxPat
it has some strategy and stuff
11:25 am
Kerryanne
Yeah you shouldn't have to guess, you just have to be careful with your assumptions, *goes to start puzzel*
11:25 am
jix
ARGH i must be blind
11:25 am
jix
didn't saw a very obvious 6
11:26 am
BariSaxPat
Now for a different kind of problem: I'm hungry, but all I can eat is crappy dorm food
11:26 am
BariSaxPat
do I eat or starve to death?
11:26 am
BariSaxPat
keep in mind that the food might kill me anyway
11:26 am
hokie carla
argh! backtracked & ran into the same prob again.
11:26 am
asahi
that's a though question
11:27 am
Kerryanne
Toasties are the way forward, really
11:27 am
swati
finallly got my 7
11:27 am
David Mitchell
Hokie? Like VT?
11:27 am
BariSaxPat
what in the world is a toasty?
11:27 am
asahi
get a hot pot and live on noodle bowls!
11:27 am
BariSaxPat
hmm, I should get some ramen noodles
11:28 am
BariSaxPat
in the cup
11:28 am
BariSaxPat
so I don't have to use a bowl, cuz I'm lazy
11:28 am
Kerryanne
you know, two slices of bread, cheese + beans in the middle (or any variation) shove it in the toastie maker, grills both sides, the cheese melts, the bread toats, volia une toastie
11:28 am
BariSaxPat
don't know about beans
11:28 am
BariSaxPat
not my cup 'o tea
11:29 am
hokie carla
starting with a clear board for the 3rd time. I hope that All Clear button is coming soon.
11:29 am
Kerryanne
well to suit your tastes, could have tuna, egg, cheese and ham, cheese and tomato, the possibilities are endless
11:29 am
Kerryanne
all you need is a toatie maker, hmmm
11:30 am
Kerryanne
now i'm hungry
11:31 am
Crckrjck
I finished it by making two (lucky) guesses
11:33 am
raerae7133
guessing is bad
11:34 am
Anj
time to eat...
11:34 am
hurshy
hello friends
11:35 am
Crckrjck
it's a valid technique when you have exhausted all other options
11:35 am
bex777
hi hurshy!!!
11:35 am
raerae7133
hello hurshy
11:35 am
David Mitchell
G'day, hurshy
11:35 am
Noumenon
yo uhursh
11:35 am
hurshy
you have never exhausted all other options
11:35 am
Sulihin
yeah but you should never exhaust all other options, so it's just a shortcut
11:35 am
hurshy
you only think you have
11:36 am
raerae7133
right. Of course, that's assuming that the puzzle has enough numbers and has only one solution. But I don't think that's an issue here
11:37 am
Sulihin
right, presuming it's a validly constructed puzzle
11:37 am
Crckrjck
eh. i did some online research, i asked people... i looked it over several times... i'm just not stellar at logic... so I guessed... and I guessed correctly... by the way, i was use green numbers... it wasn't a shot in the dark
11:37 am
swati
this thing really needs an undo or all clear button
11:37 am
raerae7133
It's okay. We're not harping on you. You solved the puzzle. :)
11:37 am
Sulihin
you can undo by saving and refreshing but it's limited
11:38 am
Sulihin
all clear would be nice :(
11:38 am
hurshy
it's coming
11:38 am
Noumenon
im quite sure there is a 'clear all' button in dev
11:45 am
stormgren
finally got it.
11:46 am
raerae7133
same here
11:47 am
raerae7133
So, Noumenon, who has access to dev -- aside from you?
11:49 am
Noumenon
i do not have acces to dev
11:49 am
hurshy
he has FAITH
11:49 am
EasternBlue
but nou...you have insider knowledge! : )
11:50 am
totony
hi all...
11:50 am
Noumenon
yes i do
11:50 am
EasternBlue
hi totony...
11:51 am
David Mitchell
Yay! I think I'll sit and admire this for a while before I put in the last number
11:51 am
totony
so how hard is today's riddle ?
11:51 am
EasternBlue
brb.....gotta go grab some lunch!!
11:51 am
Noumenon
finished! i also grabbed a shot of the puzzle right before i put in the last number if anyone is interested
11:52 am
Thuryn
YES! a seven! at last...
11:52 am
David Mitchell
Heh. The last number I have to put in is a 7.
11:52 am
Noumenon
my last was a 7
11:52 am
raerae7133
I think my last was a 4
11:54 am
hokie carla
well, I will have to finish later. adios!
11:57 am
innate
no 7s again... this is raunchy
11:59 am
David Mitchell
Wow, you're fast, hurshy
11:59 am
hurshy
actually that was slow for me for a medium
11:59 am
hurshy
the chat is distracting :)
11:59 am
David Mitchell
Heh
11:59 am
David Mitchell
:/
12:00 pm
totony
yeah it's all the chat's fault ;-)
12:00 pm
hurshy
sorry david
12:00 pm
jix
yay solved it without the help of the little red or green numbers
12:00 pm
hurshy
well... i am slow anyway
12:00 pm
hurshy
good, but slow
12:00 pm
hurshy
time to babble now
12:00 pm
gettinbranded
Anyone want all the answers? :)
12:04 pm
bzikofski
hard to go thru but finally made it! :) good luck all !
12:06 pm
TiMuN
Where the hell are those 6s and 7s!!!
12:10 pm
Thuryn
almost there.
12:34 pm
totony
yay me, 45 mins for a medium one :-/
12:39 pm
swati
on paper is much easier :/
12:39 pm
swati
but finally done ;)
12:40 pm
Kerryanne
woot, yeah, finished too
12:47 pm
hokie carla
finally, I finished!
12:47 pm
hokie carla
how is babble today? I'm afraid to look.
1:05 pm
EvilBernd
it involved some really really hard thinking and i think a lot of my neutrons just comitted suicide, but i did it
1:05 pm
EvilBernd
u don't have to clap
1:06 pm
EvilBernd
i even used some kind of twisted logic
1:06 pm
RicoPuerto
*clap*
1:06 pm
EvilBernd
ok - and now bring the hard ones
1:29 pm
raerae7133
congrats chank
1:33 pm
raerae7133
www.chank.com
1:58 pm
Mori
Love me, love my dogs
2:26 pm
beertje
Jeez, I thought for a while there I'd solve this one without using any reds or greens
2:41 pm
allanx2000
i m starting to get the hang of this puzzle
2:44 pm
holst
Although I by now have only finished one Ironsudoku, I instantly thought to myself "This one looks easy" when I saw today's.
2:45 pm
beertje
It does look easy. Now I'm stuck with lots of 6&7 candidate cells
2:45 pm
beertje
So I'm not sure it is, not for me anyway :P
2:47 pm
beertje
Aah! Breakthrough! Think I'm about to solve it :D
2:50 pm
GingerUK
How do you people decide where to start?
2:50 pm
holst
GingerUK, I usually just search for a "third column" to fill.
2:51 pm
beertje
Usually I start checking for obvious ones, then begin the laborious task of marking the candidates for every cell. Usuall do that one box at a time, from left to right, top down
2:51 pm
GingerUK
what do you mean by 'third column' ?
2:51 pm
british16chica
my fiance taught me to work through the numbers, starting with one, trying to fill in the obvious ones first
2:52 pm
GingerUK
yeah, I try the obvious ones route but sometimes they are not so obvious!!! to me anyway!
2:53 pm
holst
GingerUK, 'third column' is what some would call the obvious one. If you have a certain number in two neighbour columns (or rows), the third one is often quite easy to find. That is my favorite technique. And that is the easy technique ;)
2:54 pm
GingerUK
thanks Holst!
2:55 pm
beertje
Yeah, that's my favourite as well ;) It's strangely satisfying when you spot one. Sadly it will rarely be enough to complete a puzzle, but it can sometimes get you quite far
3:00 pm
GingerUK
WOW, THAT SEEMS TO BE WORKING... THANKS gUYS!!!!!
3:00 pm
GingerUK
oops, sorry, caps lock moment there!#
3:02 pm
marciikeler
jesus, for some reason i found this one to be really difficult
3:02 pm
marciikeler
although i solved yesterday's with no problem :P
3:02 pm
GingerUK
maybe an off day Marc?
3:02 pm
british16chica
why do the hard ones seem easier than the medium ones?
3:02 pm
marciikeler
i guess so, ginger
3:03 pm
marciikeler
finally solved it though!
3:04 pm
sandr
done,that was quite easy today
3:06 pm
Marcboy
wow im so bad at these
3:10 pm
bish
... freakin' 7s!
3:36 pm
Limer
Rank me, baby
3:37 pm
Limer
Whoa, Ginger. Lookin' good, babe!
3:38 pm
Limer
Is there a way to play older puzzles?
3:42 pm
GingerUK
thanks Limer!
3:49 pm
GingerUK
wd Bish!
3:51 pm
chu
it,s so important NOT TO HURRY!
3:52 pm
holst
7, I hate you.
3:58 pm
GingerUK
I hate the middle block!
3:58 pm
patchworked
I relate -- I've only got 4 in that square yet...
3:59 pm
patchworked
Four numbers, not the number four, that is :)
3:59 pm
chu
holst, if you like slicing... get obvious out of the way and you will find your sevens
4:04 pm
holst
chu, explain slicing, please :)
4:07 pm
sherb
lurks waiting for explanation of slicing... simple please :D
4:11 pm
davidtoc
done! woo!
4:12 pm
holst
I made a lucky guess -- done. It's bedtime here in Copenhagen so I wish the rest of you good luck.
4:13 pm
GingerUK
g'night holst... nearly bedtime in UK too!
4:14 pm
OzzieRain
right - let's see what today's little test has to offer
4:15 pm
chu
you know, 3 squares in a row, 3 parallel lines with 2 equals. check all horisontals and verticals. eliminate all possibles from 1 to 9 awerywere :)
4:16 pm
sherb
thanks... didn't know that was called slicing... :D
4:16 pm
PeteyCaps
Boom! Got it..
4:18 pm
sherb
gone wrong somewhere... I give up... nite all :D
4:22 pm
chu
i did it 3 times today but i made it at the end
4:25 pm
patchworked
All done! Yay! :) Good luck, you guys
4:41 pm
OzzieRain
Done - and very pleased - only11 mins 8-)
4:42 pm
OzzieRain
sorry lost track of time 27 mins - whoops
4:47 pm
macuser
Woohoo... Done!
4:52 pm
artemis
Done! This is my first Sudoku on this web site. Happy!
4:58 pm
contestant
oy, I hate this puzzle.
5:45 pm
contestant
oh, sh--
5:45 pm
contestant
DAMNIT
5:45 pm
contestant
...Hell with this.
6:04 pm
naruto
the puzzleboard flickers when i use firefox in linux
6:04 pm
naruto
but windows is fine
6:04 pm
guerro
naruto: do you have the latest firefox ?
6:04 pm
evanonut
naruto - need firefox 1.5
6:05 pm
naruto
oops just noticed this is 1.0.7
6:05 pm
guerro
ok, here I go ....
6:06 pm
naruto
that was a good one
6:54 pm
guerro
crap i got it goofed up somehow
6:56 pm
guerro
how do i revert to a previously saved state
6:58 pm
guerro
nm i got it
6:58 pm
asahi
well... if you saved before you messed it up, refreshing the page should revert it back to that point.
6:59 pm
asahi
I don't know if you can revert past that
6:59 pm
guerro
i logged out then back in
7:00 pm
asahi
did that work?
7:00 pm
guerro
took me back to the last time i saved
7:00 pm
asahi
that's good
7:10 pm
guerro
dammit i got it all screwed up again i guess i will start all over crap
7:21 pm
Thuryn
by contrast, i'm right up close to the end, but can't quite see the next move...
7:21 pm
Thuryn
freakin sevens...
7:22 pm
Thuryn
i'm probably going to have to finally guess :/
7:22 pm
SaintNick
What freakin sevens? There are no freakin sevens.
7:22 pm
Thuryn
i found one, by finding the other eight numbers in column three
7:22 pm
Douglas
That's what's freaky!
7:22 pm
Thuryn
that hasn't helped me find ANY of the other sevesn
7:27 pm
Thuryn
looks like it's down to an educated guess :(
7:28 pm
Thuryn
no, it isn't! YES. logic prevails!
7:30 pm
Thuryn
Ahhh.... done.
7:30 pm
Thuryn
Got that second 7 worked out and it all came together. ^_^
7:31 pm
SaintNick
I've never seen so many green sevens.
7:41 pm
The Wac
hello everyone
7:41 pm
The Wac
how is it today?
7:42 pm
The Wac
that good huh
7:42 pm
SaintNick
I went rattling down the wrong track. Now I'm painfully clearing them all...ARg.
7:43 pm
The Wac
oh dang, thats no good
7:43 pm
TommyJr
I've never wanted a seven so bad since the last time I played craps.
7:44 pm
The Wac
it seems like the numbers are coming farely easily though. . .
7:56 pm
The Wac
i take that back
7:56 pm
SaintNick
Same experience here.
7:59 pm
The Wac
i tried this earlier and got down to only 4 squares left and it wouldn't work
8:01 pm
raggedyandy3478
anybody use more sudoku sites than just this particular one? cuz i finished this one late last night, and i feel like trying other sudoku puzzle
8:01 pm
The Wac
websudoku.com
8:01 pm
The Wac
you can just do a google search too. . you should find a ton
8:01 pm
lem45
Computer generated puzzles though - not as interesting IMO
8:02 pm
raggedyandy3478
ya, but i wanted recommendations on good/challenging ones
8:02 pm
The Wac
you can set the level on websudoku
8:03 pm
raggedyandy3478
sweet, ty
8:03 pm
raggedyandy3478
sweet, ty
8:09 pm
The Wac
sweet i win 2 points
8:34 pm
raerae7133
Hi Rachel
8:34 pm
Rachel
hi matthew
8:34 pm
raerae7133
How's it going
8:35 pm
Rachel
almost done :-)
8:38 pm
jdbarney
i don't like this puzzle
8:39 pm
raerae7133
I don't like dog bites
9:06 pm
acheekymonkey
what's with the puzzles without 7s?
9:13 pm
dplass
this puzzle is hard. grr.
9:16 pm
asahi
all done! horray! :)
9:26 pm
dplass
i knew it was too good to be true
9:30 pm
dplass
argh again
9:34 pm
dplass
argh again again
9:34 pm
dplass
where's the 'clear all' button
9:35 pm
dplass
i'm talking to myself. this is bad.
9:35 pm
dplass
no it's not. don't worry about it.
9:37 pm
sea0tter12
i think the puzzles on here are harder than normal ... or maybe i just have a block against doing them on the computer. i'm good at them on paper! :)
9:39 pm
dplass
dang another contradiction
9:40 pm
dplass
a missing green '8' was my problem
9:43 pm
wth
Not a single *7*? Sheesh.
9:44 pm
sea0tter12
i know!
9:45 pm
lindsay
ahhhh... *finally*
9:52 pm
BariSaxPat
I need another puzzle
9:52 pm
BariSaxPat
right now!
10:53 pm
sea0tter12
i'm so stuck