done... not bad

grrr... I'm stuck.

Good morning,
I'm slowly working on it. I'm making a little progress.

it's not bad... no hard trick required

So, lawfully, we don't need any guessing like last night?

not at all... there's at least one clue lurking... far better than yesterday...

(honestly, I did two guesses yesterday :(

morning law and penguin

Okay ... thanks.

That is both thank you for letting me know this is doable and thank you for not giving away the clue. 8-)

morning, still one score up :)

Good morning Raggedy.

haha law, yup, havent missed a day since i believe April 2nd

I kind of remember if you're stuck, check the right bottom box

I'm still waiting for a day you're gonna miss one, ragged :)

that day may come sooner than you think, 2 weeks from 2day i start my training to be an RA, and i may miss a day or 2 in that time frame

(joking, haha)

i know, but letting u know, haha

There is the advantage to throwing a couple of bucks to DrGod. I can catch up any time. 8-)

This does move steadily along. Slow, but steady.

yep...definitely solvable...almost there

u have to have a couple bucks to throw, thats the prob w/me penguin

done!

done!

ragged, did you guess for yesterday's?

i think of it more as a logic tree

Don't worry, Raggedy. If you are unlucky as most of us, you will be out of college soon and making money. Then a few of us are lucky enough to return to education ... but not to really make money. 8-/

lol, in other words, yes

haha penguin, i hope i'll make some money, as an engnr from GaTech i have quite the rep tha will precede me

I'm relieved to hear that...

Ha, ha. If you use that phrasing, then I did not have to guess either yesterday ... it was a logic tree. 8-)

... that logic works no matter what... :)

exactly penguin, its a logic tree, my friend(CS Major) and I have rationalized this activity that is usually referred to as guessing

Yes, Raggedy, Georgia Tech is well known throughout the U.S. Your future is bright so long as you survive to greet it.

yup, pursuing a possibility to the end until either it solves the prob or it dead ends...

this was a lot nicer than yesterdays... at least for me it was

good point penguin, i do have to survive

done - but for the last few I used green - shouldn't have needed them however, had just missed a relationship that helped a lot

surviving is important...

Survival does make the next day more likely. 8-)

good night all

night law

Good night lawfully,
Survive the night well. 8-)

so what's all this using green or red stuff that i've heard of, anyone care to explain?

im somewhat new to ironsudoku

we always welcome newcomers, i forgot how to use them since i dont use them but they are on the help page i believe

Hello Alkaid,
If you hold down the shift or alt key, you can color your entries ... and have several small notes in the square. Try playing with it.

oh ok

or penguin can show me up and know what hes talking about

Some people like to use the colors to either note what is possible or what is impossible.

ha, oh wow... who would've thunk... if i'd read the instructions i would've found out that little trick

lol

Or, Raggedy, I can show that I am still so weak at this that I need to use the colors regularly. (My one point of pride is that I don't use the Javascript).

true, that javascript makes things real easy

Yes, Alkaid, RTFM (Read the FRIENDLY manual). 8-)

lol thanks guys, i learn something new everyday, take care

i have used that once or twice in my day, but have learned to make it w/out any markings other than what i track inside my head

us Alkaid

*u2

There it goes. Everything falls into place without any guessing needed.

im a little stuck, but refuse to use my logic tree tonight

I agree with lawfully, you shouldn't need the "logic tree" tonight. There are a few patterns that will fall into place if you are stubborn enough.

For me, it is time to fall over. I'm off to meet my new principal for the second time tomorrow morning. Good night.

gnight penguin

and done

ooh, 666 in this one - bad omen

Good afternoon, all

That was easy.

agreed sprite... easy

good morning krys. you're up early!

morning all

Good morning.

hi all

morning...er...evening...oh nevermind...HI

;-)

Hello!

howdy

hmm, drats, messed up!

easy enough when you dont make a mistake

hello

hard, schmard. that was distinctly easier than pie.

yes, peezy.

hi all

easier than pie? yay!

That was pretty easy... Why are the mediums harder than the hards?

hiya

veryone

oh yeah, baby! Hard one today

this seems like an aweful lot of numbers to start with

That did seems awfully straightforward for a "hard". I feel shortchanged!

ello :)

scribble!

elllo, luv

limer!

I'm here

let the bells sound

long time no see

Cuz I am a ding a ling

*grin*

haha

Ha

Nailed that Puppy!

Rank me, baby!

NO green or red

Cue theme music

My appoligies to scribble

For my consistency

^_^

congrats

why, it's scribbledy dibbledy!

hurshy!!!!

hi scribble, how are you?

great, and you?

i'm good as well. what have you been doing with your summer?

being bored, wasting time, reading, the usual.

when i was your age, read and swim, that's all i did all summer

i havent been able to swim very much...except at the beach

they need to invent a swimming pool with a waterproof screen so you can read ebooks

yeah that would be great!

are you going on any trips?

yep. on thursday we leave for warped tour in indianapolis. i get to see some of my favorite bands! yay!

and we went to the beach last week

what is a warped tour? what bands will you see?

warped tour is a series of concerts and there are 150+ bands there. its all punk/rock/alternative music. i'll get to see my favorite band, AFI, along with Underoath, The Pink Spiders, Thursday, Rise Against, and tons more...yay!!

and tell me, how do you feel about n sync and shania twain?

hate n'sync, rap music, country....blech

just checking. i am currently surrounded by a horde of preteen girls with hideous taste in music, it's good to know there are some of you out there who know junk when they hear it

amen to that

although, there is the occasional country song that catches my fancy... like... it's all right to be little bitty

course i've never heard of any of the bands you mention, but anything is better than n sync

yeah i used to love alan jackson...there are a few country songs that are ok...but not many

i forget, have you met bex777 here or in babbleland?

well AFI is great...dont know if they are your type or nto but they have a great range of style on all their CDs... Sing the Sorrow is my favorite

never met bex777...

just wondered, she's around your age, just a smidge older... from england. i went to see her whilst on my trip.

i see said the blind man

is there an AFI song you are particularly fond of?

thats a hard question

hmm, sort of a cross between the beatles and simon and garfunkel

i'm listening to "the leaving song"

the leaving song part 2 is great....silver and cold...and girl's not grey...

love all of sing the sorrow though

oh and dancing through sunday is wonderful

ok :) i'll listen to a few... napster is handy, i like that you can try a song out before you decide if you want to buy it

the leaving song is good also, but it doesnt have drums/bass

great :)

oh my. i prefer part one to part two.

part 2 is a bit yelly.

um yeah davey screams alot.

why would he do this?

dont listen to Death of Seasons if you dont like the yelling

ok. trying girl's not grey now.

that ones good

i got a cute new shirt today.

whats it look like?

it's white with pink edges...about the pink in your icon...and then there is a glittery green and pink butterfly on it

but i think you said you like to wear dark colors.

yeah im fond of black and red...but it stills sounds nice :)

if someone puts up an away message on IM that's directly targeted at you, do you think that's a compliment, or a sign that they don't want to talk to you?

it depends on what it says

it says "hello hurshy, i'm in a meeting"

how did they know i would look at it?

do you talk to them alot?

and it sounds nice to me...but i could be wrong

i think it's nice, i think it's funny, i sent them an LOL

but i just wanted a second opinion. i would hate to be a pest.

sorry for the delay, my network went down

aww hurshys fun to talk to though!

but maybe this person would rather do other things, you never know.

maybe

have you seen that geico commercial where the gecko sang "everybody was kung fu fighting"?

hahaha yeah

i thought, wow, what a great song, and i went and listened to the real version on line, and i didn't like it nearly as much as when the gecko sings it. he should put out his own album.

that would be hilarious...but yeah it does sound better when he sings it

i would buy it. i bought the hampsterdance CD.

do you like the show "monk"?

never seen it..

it's on USA, maybe you don't get that network. used to be fridays at 10, just moved to 9. it's about an OCD detective. it's very funny.

and now they've put another new funny one on after it called "psych"

i love detectives.

i dont get that channel but i'm sure my mom does

how does that work? how do you make different tv's in the same house get different channels?

my mom lives a block away...have i not explained yet?

oh no, you haven't! when she would come on i thought it was funny that she would talk to you online just from downstairs or something...but i didn't think why

oh well let me explain then...

my mom had me when she was...16,17 i believe...and after i was born she and my biological father split up...4 years later she married my present father...and she gave me a choice...i had been living with my grandparents and she asked if i wanted to stay or go with her and my dad. i chose to stay with my grandparents, and my mom and dad recently moved into a house just down the street from us.

sorry for the bad grammar

wow.

yeah confusing i know.

she let you choose when you were that little?

yea...i was pretty competent at 4 i suppose.

so are you going to keep on living with your grandparents?

i suppose so, i've lived with them for 13 years now...i quite like it though. all of us are really close though, so to me it wouldnt be any different if i lived down the street.

scribble, i have a serious problem.

what would that be?

i am addicted to milk duds.

oh gosh you had me concerned for a second there. :P

whats wrong with that? milk duds are nice.

oh. when i'm really sad, i don't sound like that.

yes but you know what they say... a moment on the lips, a lifetime on the hips

i definitely need to start doing my butt & thigh workout video more regularly.

lol dont we all

ooh, fun, the show "psych" has a memory game, you can see how good your memory is!

sorry to butt in... you should go to spin classes, they are really good for burning calories!

oh... i live out in the boondocks, there's no classes around to go to...hence, videos.

scribble you want to try the memory game?

here's the link: http://www.usanetwork.com/series/psych/games/
memorygame/index.php

i'm going to try it out.

i'll give it a try

oooh i got 100% right!! yay!!

go scribble! i knew you would. it's cool, you can play it again and the details change!

sweet! thanks hursh :)

i didn't do so well the first time but the second time i got 100%. guess i need 14 seconds to have a good memory instead of only 7.

....

woohoo, i got 100% again and this time i got the final question also, i'm hired!

hi laurabee

yay! i gotta go hursh...my gramps just got back with a VERY late lunch...jeebus im hungry...c-ya later!!

laurabee probably just marked so she'd know when she started. oh, bye scribble!

hi rlc!!

lol

am I THAT read-able?

lots of people do it, that's all :)

I have issues with all the "hard" & "expert" ones.

really? some people have tissues with them.

lol. All my archives of my mediums & easy's are done

dam 2todays is easy!!

after my trick i dont have problems anymore

whats your trick?

what's your trick?

:)

lol

well u mite not like it

first

say, richboy, you wouldn't happen to have a trick, would you?

u gotta put in all the numbers that can go in that box

who me ??? no lol

then u gotta take out what wont be able to go there

so then u gotta look where u can find only one 3 in a row

so then u gotta look where u can find only one 3 in a row
and the three ahs 2 go there
etc

so then u gotta look where u can find only one 3 in a row
and the three ahs 2 go there

richboy, that's not a trick! that's just the most tedious way to do sudoku!

are you just joking?

well it helps me alott

i do that many times, and they're still not always easy!

and i havent had any problems since

lol, no offense intended richboy

do it on paper

with big boxes

ok :)

none taken hurshy!

and whatever is usedalready u can shade in

so i have lots of black boxes

u have 2 see it to understand better

richboy you do know you can mark with little numbers right on here, you don't need a paper with big boxes

like i said its easier 2 do on paper

and yes u can press shift for green and ctrl for red

okey dokey, so long as you know-key

im talking more for the harder ones u shud do it on paper because u can have like 5 different choices per box

bt the easier one like easey and medium u can do on the computer

you can have as many as you want here too

i no

and if you want more puzzles, try www.websudoku.com.

but its harder to tell with 6 numbers in a box

or... one of my favorites... http://www.samurai-sudoku.com/ :D

all this talking made me screw up on an expert!!ol

oh dang, that's huge!

yeh

folks might also enjoy sikaku puzzles, they're a newer puzzle (here's hoping doc makes a sikaku website)

hello

ney

*h

yesterdays expert is maad easy

hurshy, where do you find sikaku puzzles? i found one website that's in austrian, i believe...

kebek, you can do the puzzles on there if you read the directions on wikipedia, or google can translate the (german) page for you

they haven't really caught on like sudoku yet...i hope they will so we can get more of them.

oh, i figured out what to do. green is good :)

well, forest green is good. olive green is bad.

wuts sikaku

haha, ok true.

i cant get on its blocked

game playing

you have to draw rectangles on a grid that has numbers on it, and each rectangle must contain one number and have the area of the number inside it.

o ok

btwrt, you there?

im here lol

astrid says "kloom"

yaron says" yeah baby!!!"

hey chica - i've been in and out, and now i'm out again, gotta put the deposit on my apt :) i'll ttyl ok?

ok...

(chica = hurshy, sorry about that)

ok...sent you an email...but you probably won't see this post, lol

go

there goes the other one!

should we go after 'em?

well we can't have them gallivanting up there like kangaroos, can we now?

*helen is unfazed*

What are all you babble players doing here?? Today is my first day to log on this game. I play babble under the name StephieC. How do you know if you are right? Would someone kind of explain this to me?

well stephanie, dr. god runs both sites, so he told all the babblers about this site when he started it.

when you finish a puzzle correctly, it will tell you you're done.

Welcome to Sudoku :)

the rules of the game are explained in the "help" section above

Can I ask for clues like on Babble?

oh yes, that too :) welcome indeed

you can, stephanie, and you are in luck, for i am the purveyor of Super Duper Coded Hurshy Clues

Okay then, how do I ask for a clue for the first square?

you just did

but are you sure you want a clue already?

have you placed any numbers yet?

lol :)

you don't have to do them in order.

in fact the odds of ever being able to do the squares in order must be astronomical.

I copied this down on paper earlier this morning. I have been working on and off all day. It is beginning to drive me crazy!

oh ok then

i will now compose your super duper clue

i do the squares in order, doesn't everyone do them in order from left to right, top to bottom, isn't that how you play this game?

now helen, behave

seriously

oh, ok, not seriously, more like bwa-ha-ha

oh no, not unfazed - just not here, tending to dogs, on & off - frisky today :)

the first square is the number of states in the US divided by the number of fingers on a normal human hand plus the number that's a crowd minus the number of players on a side in baseball

Thankks. I'll see what I can get with that! Great clueing!!

I think that's the first time I've witnessed a super duper hurshy clue. Pretty neat. :)

see cluing in sudoku is different because it's much more of a big deal for someone to see a clue if they don't want to. so this is my way around it... some people set up temporary web pages to tell someone the number they want, but i am not that tech savvy.

lol - that's a great way to do it - this way if i really want the clue then i g=can get it & if i don't - well, then i lose interest after trying to figure out what a normal hand is - i say 2 pair ,lol

Question 'bout red and green marks: How do you use them in your solving process (those who aren't 1337 enough to do the puzzles without marking something down)?

exactly. sort of.

I know how to get them and I have my own use for 'em, but I'm just curious ...

well hoaf, people general mark the possibles and then look for naked pairs, triples, etc.

*generally

Yeah, I do the same thing, but is there any particular method that'd require two colors, or is it just a preference thing?

if you have a really hard one, hoaf, and you need to use a forcing chain (ie guess and see if the guess leads to an impossibility) then it's nice to use the other color to mark the trail of your guess

Alrighty. I usually, er, use the red to mark the pairs/triples and the greens for the rest of the options.

As I said, jes' curious. :^)

don't mention curiosity around us cats, please *shudder*

Curiousity is what one of my cats stuck in the sofa springs.

Ick.

*puzzled*

have i mentioned sikaku lately :) :)

What exactly is sikaku, again? I missed the earlier conversation.

I'm a fan of Kakuro, myself.

it's another fun type of puzzle. as the commercial would say, if there were a commercial, "if you like sudoku, you'll love sikaku!"

Where could I find an example?

sikaku has a grid of squares, some of which have numbers in them. you have to draw a box around each number, and the area of the box must be the number that is in the box.

google sikaku.

Er, yeah.

there's a german site with 50 puzzles, but they are kind of a new thing so there aren't a ton of other puzzles out there

does "Er, yeah." mean, "oh, i should have thought of that" or "what the heck is google?"

Thanks for that clue Hurshy. I have successfully completed today's puzzle!!! I am so proud that I only had one clue!!! I just started working these in our newspaper last week.

congrats stephanie! *shakes hand*

I'm just figuring out to use the cupholder on the front of my computer ... so it's all new to me.

aha, hoaf. www.google.com is a delightful thing called a search engine. you can use it to search for just about anything.

Shweet! :^)

*wonders if she can purchase a cupholder accessory for her computer*

Heh heh.

how is it you managed to get yourself an icon, being so new at computer things?

you must just be a good follower des instructions

http://www.snopes.com/humor/business/wordperf
.htm

Actually, the hard part was finding a *decent* icon (of course, your definition of decent might be different from mine).

so, hoaf, i am confused. you seem very computer savvy.

I know how to use 'em most of the time. Part of my job. :^)

well then why'd you make me think you'd never heard of google? :)

The cuphold comment seemed to do the trick. :^D

yes, it did, but the question was WHY, not HOW

I didn't mean to, actually -- I just rolled with the punches.

Sorry 'bout that.

you are quite the punch roller. i have rolled all the way down the hill and am dripping with red.

punch, not blood, is the red.

Red's a good flavor.

Of Kool Aid (tm), that is.

natch

Right now I'm trying to ween myself off of using pencil marks. Tough job.

but worthwhile. so much more fun without them.

except on the experts, on this site, where most people tend to need them.

Yeah ... I'm working on a medium right now. :^P

That's it for me tonight (and I admit to using greens at the very end there. :) ) Have a good evening, folks. :)

cheerio, ducks. think i'll kick back with some law and order myself.

hi hurshy

hi

this one is a toughie tonight!!

anyone working on this? i can't crack it.

I'm still working on it. I seem to be thouroughly stuck right now.

I couldn't get yesterdays Expert one! I tried for a really long time but kept screwin up!

i think i just hit a wall

The same thing happened to me, chrissie!

i'm working on yesterday's expert right now. today's actually went pretty fast for me. faster than the more recent "easy" ones & faster than any medium I've ever done on here.

hokie, i see you are from nc. i am too!

hello! night owl like me? Are you from NC? I am from VA originally.

i'm originally from ca. am taking a break from homework!

have 2 reports and two short essays due tomorrow. it was a one-week intensive class (3 credit hours)

aha. so are you at duke? (not really up on the locations of those NC schools)

no, actually, i'm getting my teaching credential at central. but i used to teach at duke (was a college prof) and my hubby works at duke (in computers/med center). whereabouts are you, and what's keeping you up? :)

I see. oh, you are actually older than I am. hehe. I'm in Charlotte. just stay up late most nights.

are you a yung'un? ;-) I'm not too old...will be 37 next month

oh, no. I'm 33, so not much younger than you.

we're just night owls (or you're a night turkey)

yep. I'm going to be hurtin in about a month when I have one starting kindergarten and we have to get up early!

how exciting! will this be the first one off to school?

uh-huh. he's been in preschool for 4 years, though.

finally filled in all the green. now on to seeing what i can eliminate...

are you working on today's?

yeah, didn't have a chance til now

it really did go unusually fast for me & I only used greens sparingly.

it depends on my brain. right now i'm really tired so it's easier to just fill in mindlessly and knock off ones that are obvious

yes. someone's (hurshy, maybe) #1 rule: don't do these when you're tired.

i think i messed up--good rule to follow for that precise reason!

D'oh! yep, i'll have to restart. do this one over tomorrow when i'm not tired.

good luck

going back to checkpoint on my expert

thanks! i think i'm off to bed and will get up early to finish my work. i finished the two presentations (prepping for them) and will write my short paragrahps tomorrow

which expert?

yesterday's

that one went pretty easy for me.

good luck with your homework, too!

i have an old expert (march 24) that i've never been able to do

ty! :D

good luck w/ yesterday's! see you around online!

well, it started much easier than I was expecting for an expert, but then it just stopped cold.

see you!

actually, i may have had to guess on one or two. i believe there's no shame in that :-P

on yesterdays, that is

so anyway, it's not that easy--it's just that i guessed. good luck!

well, I am trying some different things (some may call that guessing), but no break-throughs yet. will try Sat.'s & come back to this one later.

I thought that one was easier than the last "easy" one!