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3:26 am
h
ooph - was stuck with about 20 s;uares unknown and tried a force-guess. it didnt fail until the final-block. thankfully i could undo it - but it was STILL hard... whew...
3:45 am
h
uh... how? it was easy to start with 7s and there were lots of pairs, but they never forced anything for me...
5:14 am
peternl
whew, that was a bit tricky
5:22 am
spreadeagle
Not too bad for a hard, needed greens, but no guessing...
8:21 am
franebrown
I'm out on this one again!
10:46 am
Limer
Nailed that puppy!
10:46 am
Limer
Rank me, baby!
10:46 am
Limer
LOTS of green, sunshines!
10:46 am
Limer
Nix theme music.
11:39 am
drwho
Difficulty score = 29. I had to start over about 4 times!
11:40 am
drwho
No guessing needed.
11:50 am
Moozey
no guessing required
12:14 pm
shoupart
yeah, that one was tricky for me!
12:45 pm
hurshy
aw, missed limer
12:49 pm
hurshy
guessing? why would i be hearing this word? this offends my ears. this word should not be mentioned in sudoku chat. it's like how you don't mention bees around someone who was traumatically stung by a horde of them as a child.
12:52 pm
UDbmas
I GUESS you are right...
12:52 pm
hurshy
lalalalalalalalala i can't hear you lalalalalalalala
12:53 pm
UDbmas
can someone loan me a 5?
12:53 pm
hurshy
it's not for drugs is it?
12:54 pm
UDbmas
it will be if I don't find one soon... LOL
12:54 pm
hurshy
it doesn't really matter whether you have any of a certain number... i mean who cares what order you find things in, as long as you find things?
12:54 pm
UDbmas
oh... back to guessing?
12:55 pm
hurshy
WHAT are you TALKING about?
12:57 pm
hurshy
that's not me getting mad by the way, just being confused.
12:58 pm
UDbmas
Didn't think you were mad... I still don't have any 5s on my puzzle...
12:59 pm
hurshy
well, neither do i, but that's ok, they will come eventually. do you like star trek?
1:00 pm
UDbmas
I used to watch it a lot... haven't seen it in a while though
1:00 pm
hurshy
do you remember a next gen episode called "the game" featuring ashley judd as wesley's love interest?
1:01 pm
UDbmas
not sure... I don't know her by name. If I see the episode, I usually know I have seen it... I didn't miss many.
1:03 pm
hurshy
she's pretty, mostly acts in movies... anyway it was the one where they had that game they wore on their heads where you had to get these discs to go into these trumpet-shaped stalks
1:04 pm
UDbmas
hmmm... maybe I didn't see it... what's the main story line?
1:05 pm
hurshy
somebody gives this game to... riker, i think... while he's vacationing on risa... and it's actually a mind control device and he spreads it to everyone on the ship but wesley and robin (ashley judd), with data, save the day.
1:05 pm
hurshy
excellent episode.
1:07 pm
UDbmas
now it sound familiar... one of my favorites was Data getting drunk and falling down in the end-scene. Oh, and any episode where he was Sherlock Holmes. I also liked the Mark Twain episode.
1:07 pm
hurshy
anyway when they teach a new person how to play the game they always say you can't force it, you have to relax and just let it happen. that is like sudoku. except without the mind control. hopefully.
1:08 pm
hurshy
you didn't know i had a point there did you?
1:08 pm
UDbmas
hmmm... I am thinking I need a little mind-control... cause it ain't happening... LOL
1:09 pm
hurshy
no you need a little relaxing
1:09 pm
hurshy
also similar to those magic eye thingys
1:10 pm
UDbmas
how can I relax when I know there are nine %s out there... alone and scared... unable to find their way to their *%^$#@ homes... LOL
1:10 pm
hurshy
but if you stay tense you are less able to help them
1:10 pm
UDbmas
are you stalling, trying to avoid guessing where those 5s go?
1:11 pm
hurshy
not remotely
1:11 pm
hurshy
i am working on it while we chat
1:11 pm
hurshy
and i know i will not need to guess
1:11 pm
UDbmas
yeah... I know... LALALALALALALlalalalalala... lol
1:12 pm
hurshy
ahhh there is the first 5...
1:12 pm
hurshy
i didn't do anything
1:13 pm
UDbmas
one less orphan to feed...
1:14 pm
hurshy
maybe you should be listening to kokomo, it helps.
1:18 pm
UDbmas
YAY...wtg!
1:19 pm
hurshy
sudoku is also like surfing. you just ride the wave.
1:19 pm
hurshy
sudoku is also like science. you're just discovering what was already there all along.
1:21 pm
hurshy
or like having a cold. you just treat the symptoms until it wroks itself out.
1:22 pm
hurshy
it is NOT like trying to find the perfect analogy for what sudoku is like. that is much harder. i am dissatisfied.
1:22 pm
UDbmas
don't be dissatisfied... just "relax and let it happen"... LOL
1:23 pm
hurshy
giving birth? you don't control it, really, you're just along for the ride.
1:24 pm
hurshy
what i am trying to say is that you don't DO sudoku, you just become one with a sudoku until that sudoku is done and reaches nirvana. it's really a zen thing.
1:25 pm
UDbmas
oh... like the transcendentalist at a hamberger shack?
1:25 pm
torgone
Only you never reach nirvana because there's always another sudoku ..
1:25 pm
hurshy
mmm... i haven't met any transcendentalists at hamburger shacks.
1:26 pm
hurshy
YOU don't reach nirvana, tor, keep up - the SUDOKU reaches nirvana.
1:26 pm
UDbmas
when asked for his order, he said:
1:26 pm
UDbmas
"Make me one with everything"
1:26 pm
hurshy
lol :) i love puns!
1:27 pm
hurshy
people can't reach nirvana, because people are too complicated. but sudokus can reach nirvana.
1:28 pm
hurshy
oh, it is also like dorothy, in the wizard of oz. the important truth was there all along, but the good witch wanted her to find it for herself. the sudoku is really done already when you first look at it, but you have to see it for yourself.
1:28 pm
torgone
That's what I meant; the puzzle reaches nirvana while the solver remains in the world doomed to help sudokus reach nirvana ..
1:28 pm
hurshy
doomed? or blessed? it all depends on your point of view.
1:29 pm
UDbmas
I just like finding out I guessed correctly... ;-)
1:29 pm
hurshy
if you RELAX while helping the sudoku to nirvana, it blesses you along the way.
1:29 pm
hurshy
you are as much of an IMP as torgone!
1:29 pm
torgone
Doomed to give birth or blessed to give birth? Or both?
1:30 pm
UDbmas
Doomed or blessed... what kind of anesthetic?
1:30 pm
hurshy
yes, in that case i would be on the doom side of the question.
1:30 pm
hurshy
but they do say that relaxing makes giving birth less painful too.
1:30 pm
hurshy
so you see, i am right when i say to relax. why don't people take me seriously?
1:31 pm
mamabear
only the people that never gave birth say that, hurshy!!!
1:31 pm
mamabear
oh and good day, everyone!
1:32 pm
hurshy
well my neighbor is a midwife and she says that she has seen people have virtually pain-free labor through hypnosis. but you have to prepare the whole pregnancy by not being panicky and not using words like "labor" that make it sound hard. i doubt i could do it myself, but the point is, if you DO it, it WORKS.
1:33 pm
hurshy
anyway the birth analogy was not my favorite. the zen one isn't bad, but i think the original star trek comparison is the best. the trouble is not everyone has seen it.
1:36 pm
mamabear
personally, I had to take myself outside my body to get through it - that worked well. Alot of mind control involved.
1:37 pm
hurshy
at least sudoku is CLEAN.
1:37 pm
hurshy
sigh. i'm such a gnostic, it's horrible.
1:37 pm
mamabear
wasn't icky... wasn't easy, but can't say it was icky either. End result was worth it, or I wouldn't have repeated the process 3 times!
1:38 pm
torgone
I'm just here for the fun ..
1:38 pm
hurshy
that is something i don't understand, why would anyone, having been through that, DO IT AGAIN!
1:38 pm
hurshy
not that i am questioning your life choices, mamabear dear. i just, you know, don't get it.
1:39 pm
mamabear
Mother's love is hard to explain. But it is a wonderful thing.
1:39 pm
mamabear
hi torg!
1:39 pm
hurshy
might help if i didn't have a horrid relationship with my mother.
1:40 pm
UDbmas
AND there is the aded side of having someone who loves you just for you...and you don't have to be suspicious of it...at least fo a little while.
1:40 pm
mamabear
Mine wasn't great either hurshy, which made my mind up even more that my relationship with my children would be different. And now my daughters are my best friends!
1:41 pm
hurshy
see i have no memory of ever feeling the natural child's affection and love for its mother. i just never experienced that. so... i don't want to become that person in someone else's life.
1:41 pm
mamabear
Everybody is different, hurshy - that's what makes the world go round!
1:42 pm
hurshy
and also, my mom thinks that she isn't close to her mom but that she has great relationships with her 3 daughters - clearly, i disagree with her - so i worry that a mother can think she has this great relationship and be deluded.
1:43 pm
mamabear
Possible, but in my case, I can assure you, there is no dillusion.
1:43 pm
hurshy
oh yes, i didn't mean you
1:43 pm
hurshy
i meant the possibility of me.
1:44 pm
hurshy
anyway, it doesn't matter, there are so many circumstances at this point that would make it a REALLY bad idea for me to have kids. you never know, someday, if certain things work themselves out. but not now.
1:45 pm
mamabear
I wish you well, hurshy - either way!
1:46 pm
hurshy
thank you mamabear :) *hugs* same to you.
1:46 pm
hurshy
i mean not the either way part... lol
1:48 pm
mamabear
OH I know, hurshy..... cuz the either way part is impossible since I am already a mother. The only worse than actually going through labor would be trying to reverse the process!!! That's GOTTA be worse!!! LOL
1:48 pm
mamabear
although little boys...... never mind.
1:49 pm
hurshy
the odds are that i will not have kids, because i think that my life is pretty much irreparably screwed up. but, we can only do the best with what we have. and right now, i have 30 words to find back at babble.
1:49 pm
torgone
You mean I beat you today?
1:50 pm
hurshy
if you are done, yes :)
1:50 pm
hurshy
i spent most of the morning sleeping, tutoring, and playing darts
1:50 pm
mamabear
the grid looked nasty to me, that's why I ended up here - is it cruel?
1:50 pm
hurshy
i think it's usual, mamabear.
1:51 pm
hurshy
i have got my 80% without the list, so
1:51 pm
hurshy
if i have significant trouble with that, it is a cruel grid, and if i get to 90 without breaking a sweat, it's an easy one.
1:52 pm
torgone
It's not too bad ..
1:52 pm
hurshy
are you working on this sudoku, tor? when you're done, maybe you could pop over to babble for a little GWHIM.
1:53 pm
hurshy
golly, i talk too much.
1:53 pm
torgone
I'm about to bail on this one . .I already guessed once and I'm stuck again ..
1:54 pm
mamabear
I'm not seeing much here.....either.
1:54 pm
hurshy
do you want help? if you promise not to use the g word i can help.
1:55 pm
mamabear
I think I might just pick one of the 18,000 1/5 combos and go with it
1:55 pm
torgone
Thanks anyway, but if I can't get it with simple techniques I usually just drop it . .
1:55 pm
hurshy
OR i could give you a Super Duper Coded Hurshy Clue to tell you whether to pick the 1 or the 5, mama
1:56 pm
mamabear
Thanks, hursh - but I'll come back to it later - for now I gotta get back to work!!! ta ta! ta ta, too tor!
1:57 pm
hurshy
okey dokey, ttfn!
1:57 pm
torgone
cya mamabear ..
1:59 pm
torgone
I was trying to find a good capture of that Troops video for star Trek day just to mess with you . .
2:01 pm
hurshy
bad enough shatner prostituting himself the way he does. this latest is the worst yet... the direct tv commercial, i think it is. using clips from STVI! the best movie! and splicing them in with him in his capt's uniform saying stuff about direct tv!! it's blasphemous, is what it is.
2:04 pm
torgone
The man has no shame ..
2:04 pm
torgone
He's an imp . .
2:04 pm
hurshy
it is true.
2:05 pm
tchansen
The man is an actor and works for a buck, just like the rest of us. Blame the person that came up with the ad campaign, not the actor.
2:07 pm
hurshy
you don't see nimoy doing it. he probably cried when he saw it.
2:07 pm
torgone
Whatever .. I like Shat .. He doesn't take himself too seriously ..
2:07 pm
tchansen
They probably didn't offer it to him as he isn't as popular. True, Shatner could have turned it down but if they offered him enough it would be hard to refuse.
2:08 pm
hurshy
umm... i'm going back to babble
2:10 pm
hurshy
i can discuss politics and religion calmly, but not star trek... lol
2:12 pm
tchansen
Sorry. I love Star Trek - I meant no offense. I just don't blame the worker for what the manager did. The license holder to Star Trek is responsible and should be accountable. My opinion though...
2:16 pm
hurshy
everyone involved is responsible! heads should roll!
2:16 pm
tchansen
Off With Their Heads!
2:17 pm
hurshy
i feel better now :)
2:20 pm
tchansen
That's what's important...
2:29 pm
spazzy
afsdjAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! ! 1 2 3 guess. [sigh].
2:30 pm
spazzy
exactly. that's what i'm thinking
2:30 pm
tchansen
I've only got one set of nine (upper left) completed.
2:31 pm
spazzy
i'm not even that far.
2:34 pm
spazzy
ugh. whatever. i think i'll go do something else for a bit - not thinking about it helps sometimes. c-ya
2:45 pm
kindkat
hmmm....that one was not that hard.....
2:53 pm
Zugzug7
dont' even tell me how but I got it! Something in the lower right quadrant didn't look right.
3:17 pm
1MoreGame
with a phone call. Wasn't that hard, more of a medium.
3:44 pm
Minski
Done! Not too difficult.
4:05 pm
sherb
ready, steady, go...
4:12 pm
sherb
*yawn* ...looks like I've got bored with sudoku...