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Difficulty: Expert Wednesday, November 8, 2006

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CHAT LOG for Wednesday, November 8, 2006

12:09 am
Womprat

Man, that was an easy expert...
12:36 am
lawfully

doesn't look like that easy...
12:52 am
nathaniel

a bit tough for me too...
1:13 am
lawfully

I needed one guess
1:27 am
kebek

49/49
2 to go.
*crosses fingers*
1:28 am
skizzybiz

webb's up by 12k. it'll take a while for the recounts to be processed, but it's looking good
1:29 am
skizzybiz

i'm still bitter that californians apparently didn't research the propositions before voting for a bunch of misleading crap, though
1:30 am
kebek

yeah, if the remaining counties report the way they have so far, webb should stay ahead. but definitely recounts, so i guess we won't know for a while.
1:31 am
kebek

i think they just put in some buzz words to get people to vote a certain way since they know people are lazy and can be easily manipulated
1:31 am
kebek

do you know where the full proposition results are? they're only showing a couple on cnn.
1:32 am
skizzybiz

yeah, that's what sucks about it. at least the parental notification one looks like it's going down
1:32 am
skizzybiz

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2006/pages/result
s/senate/
1:32 am
skizzybiz

and for CA, i'm following http://www.sfgate.com/election2006/
1:33 am
skizzybiz

oh oh, proposition results. the latter link :)
1:33 am
kebek

thanks :)
1:33 am
kebek

i'm all up on the senate one already :)
1:33 am
augurus

CNN Breaking News: People Have Faith In Other People, Shocking!
1:34 am
h

rank me! whoo hoo. 1 guess forced conflict, so everything then fell into place... sorry to interrupt your politic-watching. :)
1:35 am
skizzybiz

oh, i'm multi-tasking
1:36 am
h

i need concentration to do these puppies - never really understood true multitaskers... ;)
1:36 am
skizzybiz

there are no *true* multitaskers. it's all about minimizing the cost of a context switch
1:37 am
kebek

dang, i was 4 out of 11 on the props. sigh.
1:38 am
Grendel

ooh that was easy
1:38 am
Grendel

got maybe 2 tricky parts then it flows
1:38 am
skizzybiz

kebek, have you heard anything about why various state props are passing or failing? i'm curious why campaign financing, of all things, would fail so dismally
1:40 am
skizzybiz

done. one guess.
1:40 am
kebek

i don't know, and yeah that one got killed. maybe people just saw the word "financing" and got scared. but it was all supposed to come from increasing corporate tax. grr.
1:40 am
kebek

and then they pass $40 billion dollar measures that don't even sound that effective...
1:40 am
h

im impressed - grendel is elite with no pro-status? thus youve been online since day-1 with no misses? jeez!
1:41 am
skizzybiz

yeah, i think grendel should get some sort of award
1:41 am
Grendel

not really.
1:42 am
skizzybiz

then there's the massive cost that's gonna be incurred by prop 90
1:42 am
Grendel

i used my pro-trial and pre-pro to do it
1:42 am
kebek

i think 90 is losing
1:43 am
kebek

isn't it?
1:43 am
Grendel

plus there are ways to play back puzzles even without pro. drgod needs to fix that.
1:43 am
skizzybiz

lemme check, it wasn't last i checked
1:43 am
skizzybiz

haha, really?
1:43 am
kebek

ah! i thought i saw you in elite one day and then back at the top the next.
1:43 am
skizzybiz

i never bothered poking around with urls
1:43 am
kebek

:)
1:44 am
skizzybiz

oh hey, prop 90 is losing ground, good. it was pretty strong when i checked before
1:44 am
kebek

i thought dr. god maybe took pity and let you do the one you missed
1:44 am
Grendel

drgod needs to add server-side account status checking so you can't submit puzzles your account status shouldnt let you
1:44 am
Grendel

i've been meaning to send an email but things always got in the way.
1:44 am
skizzybiz

oh, that *is* tricky
1:45 am
kebek

i think you deserve elite, so it probably doesn't matter enough to fix it. :)
1:45 am
h

hmm - ok now im intrigued (playing back-puzzles?) - but ill let it pass for now - i just noticed prop-J passing - now THAT is funny! :)
1:45 am
Grendel

but theres nothing right now to stop auto-assist scripts and client-side checkpoints
1:46 am
Grendel

the entire solution is sent to the client so if someone was so inclined they could cheat every puzzle and never get caught
1:46 am
skizzybiz

SF prop J, you mean? that one rules the school
1:47 am
h

ooohh - ok, now that is uncool - (checking full solution) - i just wanted to go back and finish when time-ran-out...
1:47 am
Grendel

now if dr.god suddenly changed the script to have a dummy solution, everyone using cheat scripts would be caught overnight
1:47 am
kebek

webb's lead is down to 7.5k :-/
1:47 am
h

prop-J was listed as a call-for-impeachment on the sfgate website. passed by 59%
1:48 am
kebek

what's prop-J?
1:49 am
kebek

nevermind. that's awesome.
1:49 am
kebek

go SF.
1:50 am
h

* still chuckling unde-my-breath * i hope that isnt just a flub on the website - i live down in la, so we didnt have it here...
1:52 am
skizzybiz

oh, it's definitely a call for impeachment
1:53 am
skizzybiz

everyone i know pretty much chuckled about it and then filled in yes
1:53 am
kebek

yeah. sf is cool like that.
1:53 am
h

cheat-scripts are uncool tho... i mean, ive gone and used a solver a couple times when i couldnt get it - just to prove to myself it was doable, but the fun (for me) is pushing up the rankings day-by-day with hard work...
1:53 am
h

of course when i miss a day (vacation) im bummed...
1:54 am
kebek

yeah, that's why i shelled out some money. :)
1:54 am
h

oh - COOL! that is just too funny (prop-J) so does that mean that some elected-official has to propose-it on-the-floor or whatever?
1:54 am
kebek

i like babble too (when i have enough time, which now isn't often) so i'll support dr. god to keep making cool game sites.
1:54 am
skizzybiz

i think it'll just be presented as a statement of our collective will. it's actually not all that uncommon, i'm told, when there's a controversial national issue
1:55 am
kebek

yah
1:55 am
h

wellp - i started on babble-actually, then found this and it is much-quicker daily... cant afford the $$ right now, but proly will when im more-flush...
1:56 am
Grendel

writing a message to dr god now, thanks for reminding me.
1:56 am
kebek

yeah, i started there too.
1:57 am
h

thats cool skizzy - i should be more politically aware - i dislike all the props for spending $ tho. i thought spending money was why we hired-congresscritters? yeah, yeah - noone wants to take-the-blame... i get it...
1:57 am
Grendel

l8r people, have fun
1:58 am
kebek

bye
1:58 am
skizzybiz

well, propositions are a pretty flawed way of getting things done, particularly since it ties the legislature's hands in terms of making amendments
1:58 am
h

whimper - i guess i wont download the page-source now and try to sort-out what you were talking about regarding playing old-ones... sigh.
1:58 am
skizzybiz

but i dunno, my friends who are actually involved in policy making say that there are good uses for them
1:59 am
h

yeah - i kinda get that occassionally we would need props... i just feel like there are too-many-of-them... oddly, id assume amendments would be a prop-issue. oh... are budgets an amendment-type-concern? ick...
2:00 am
h

ok - i didnt think id be getting a civics-lesson from sudoku... ;)
2:01 am
skizzybiz

usually the state legislature (or city council) makes decisions about budgets, and they're a lot more informed about it. but my understanding is they can't contradict any propositions -- another prop is needed for that
2:02 am
skizzybiz

i dunno, i'm still just learning all this myself
2:02 am
h

a prop to bypass props... where does it end? * throws hands up like george on seinfeld *
2:02 am
kebek

hehe
2:03 am
h

thanx - i should jet now too... good luck yall (politics and sudoku).
2:03 am
skizzybiz

later!
2:03 am
skizzybiz

man, what is montana's deal. just count them already!
2:03 am
kebek

i know!! there really aren't that many things to count in the first place.
2:04 am
kebek

maybe they don't like to stay up late.
2:04 am
skizzybiz

i guess that's better than the states that closed polling at 6pm -- really sucks for the people who work 9-6
2:04 am
kebek

yeah, even 8pm is kinda early. i guess then you just go before work.
2:09 am
skizzybiz

man, look at how gerrymandered VA is
2:10 am
skizzybiz

one day we will all have mail-in ballots, do away with gerrymandering, and publicly finance campaigns
2:11 am
kebek

yeah, pretty crazy. but i guess it's almost the norm now.
2:11 am
kebek

woohoo! that'll be nice.
2:11 am
skizzybiz

talent conceded in missouri!
2:11 am
kebek

and then when more people vote for one person than another, that person will actually win.
2:12 am
kebek

oh yeah, about an hour ago. :)
2:12 am
kebek

that was what made 49/49
2:13 am
kebek

i've been a crazy senate watching fiend.
2:13 am
skizzybiz

right, CNN called it, but i think Talent just conceded officially
2:14 am
kebek

they put up the thing that said talent conceded i think right when they called it.
2:15 am
skizzybiz

oh :)
2:16 am
kebek

but anyway, yay!
2:22 am
skizzybiz

buh. okay, i'm exhausted
2:22 am
kebek

g'night :)
2:22 am
kebek

i've still got some sudoku to do
2:23 am
skizzybiz

enjoy the coverage, tomorrow should be a better day :)
2:23 am
kebek

i've been too distracted to really work on i much
2:23 am
kebek

yeah!
2:23 am
kebek

it*
3:04 am
sprite

finally an expert! Feels like ages ago.
3:10 am
augurus

Insert bad airplane and or chicken pun here.
3:10 am
sprite

lol
3:11 am
augurus

This bird has flown. Goodnight.
3:11 am
sprite

night augurus
4:00 am
rycaut

as experts go - not too difficult - done
7:12 am
drwho

Diffuculty score 34, but the computer had to guess!
7:25 am
franebrown

How does the computer guess, please tell Dr. W ?
7:28 am
peternl

hi all
7:29 am
Moozey

hi peter...just arrived myself and an expert...coolio
7:40 am
peternl

yep, a bit more challenging
7:46 am
evanadine

not too tough...
7:58 am
bzikofski

november 7 - easy but i can't finish it even with greens. seems like the difficulty got mistaken..
7:59 am
peternl

post a picture somewhere and perhaps someone can give you a clue
7:59 am
peternl

or perhaps you just made a mistake somewhere - that always increases the difficulty level quite a bit!
8:00 am
bzikofski

from what i remember so far the puzzle was pretty straight forward.. it just got totally difficult now ;) i'll try a few more minutes
8:02 am
bzikofski

ha i got the 8 in the bottom center finally
8:04 am
peternl

hmm, this one has me stumped for the moment
8:05 am
bzikofski

finally i moved forward. i got more 6s. and im on my way :) thanks!
8:06 am
peternl

well done
8:07 am
bzikofski

yeah done. now time for another mistaken easy - nov 1st
8:07 am
UDbmas

Wow..today's starts quick, then SMACK...speed bump!
8:08 am
peternl

nod
8:08 am
UDbmas

I love it when they are like this
8:08 am
peternl

makes a change
8:19 am
peternl

right! bed time for me. night all
8:21 am
UDbmas

pleasant dreams!
10:43 am
yul

hello
10:44 am
yul

expert! not seen for a while
11:03 am
Limer

Ha
11:03 am
Limer

Nailed that puppy!
11:03 am
Limer

Rank me, baby!
11:03 am
Limer

Easy with greens....
11:03 am
Limer

Cue theme moo-zak!
11:48 am
yul

yes,Limer. with greens it's a piece of pie
12:35 pm
Niela

even with greens, I am totaly blocked!
12:48 pm
Niela

Wouhou!!! Succes! Thank to a guess!
1:00 pm
hurshy

ooh, an expert!
1:01 pm
hurshy

i'm a little scared. i might be rusty after all those easy and medium puzzles.
1:15 pm
torgone

You're not really scared ...
1:16 pm
hurshy

no, just a LITTLE
1:22 pm
mamabear

I'm scared
1:26 pm
mamabear

I am in Sargeant Schultz mode..... "I see nothing...."
1:27 pm
torgone

I'm in Leslie Gore mode . .
1:28 pm
torgone

*Lesley
1:29 pm
mamabear

which is?
1:30 pm
torgone

"It's my party and I'll cry if I want to . .."
1:31 pm
mamabear

ahhhhhh...........LOL!
1:31 pm
torgone

jk :)
1:32 pm
mamabear

Well, I've stared my lunch away.... gonna have to stare some more later. Maybe it'll look different. Doubt it.
1:33 pm
torgone

I got tired of staring already .. I'm picking off some of the 18,000 puzzles I have started in the archives . .
1:34 pm
mamabear

watch your step in there, tor - I've seen an occasional bat and nasty crawly things in there.
1:34 pm
torgone

I have a candle . .
1:35 pm
mamabear

good idea! burn the ones that give you grief.
1:36 pm
torgone

50 of them, as luck would have it ...
1:37 pm
mamabear

may the force be with you. tata
1:38 pm
torgone

Later gator!
2:02 pm
Minski

Done! One lucky guess and the greens and everything fell into place.
2:20 pm
Twin C

Wow. Guesstimates all worked. I lucked out!
2:31 pm
spazzy

nooooooooooooooooooooo!
2:31 pm
spazzy

oh well.
2:54 pm
helenkeller

go
3:20 pm
aki2403

';[ jkl,. o,.
3:21 pm
aki2403

oops, sorry, that's
3:21 pm
aki2403

my 7 month old daughter "helping" me
3:29 pm
Twin C

tell her i said "/.,'3fds/.,'''
3:30 pm
Twin C

:)
3:30 pm
aki2403

lol, i will do, but she's busy having her bottle right now, it's past her bed time by about an hour, lol
3:47 pm
Twin C

gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah - I'm doing the April 13th puzzle, and it's only a medium but somehow I keep messing it up over and over and over and aaaaaaaaaaaafasdfjlasdjfasdlaweiofhasdfhasdl;
3:49 pm
aki2403

phew, I got lucky with the guess, second time lucky :D
3:57 pm
helenkeller

done
6:19 pm
Krys10

maybe i made a lucky mistake, but this puzzle seemed way easy - easier than most mediums, for me. Only needed basic techniques, including row/block and column/block intersections...
6:55 pm
chebuctonian

hi all
6:55 pm
lcgt

hey
6:56 pm
chebuctonian

this one doesn't 'look' too hard
6:57 pm
LCB48

I don't seem to be zipping through it
6:58 pm
chebuctonian

I'm slowly picking numbers