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4:58 am
bzikofski
hard one
6:35 am
NJL
a very hard medium
7:30 am
peternl
not too bad
7:36 am
eyeman
challenging for me, but I got it after a couple of guesses.
8:18 am
drwho
Difficulty score 30. Requires cross hatching, missing digit scans and region intersection analysis (scanraid calls it pointing pairs).
8:43 am
saratara
are there really strategies and terms for a puzzle?
8:45 am
drwho
Yes. An elementary introduction can be found at Wikipedia. A more advanced treatment is at http://www.scanraid.com/sudoku.htm.
9:25 am
drwho
Saratara question is a good one, because unfortunately there is no universal agreement on terms for strategies and other concepts related to Sudoku.
9:26 am
drwho
I define region much like the Wikipedia article on Sudoku; the 3x3 squares that must contain one of each of the 9 digits.
9:26 am
drwho
However, I think it is useful to also use the term region a little more loosely to also refer to the rows and columns.
9:27 am
drwho
Hence, region interesection is looking at the place where a 3x3 region and a row or column intersect.
9:28 am
drwho
If a particular digit can only appear in 2 or 3 empty cells in a row and those empty cells all lie in the same 3x3 region, then that digit can be eliminated from all other cells in the 3x3 region.
9:30 am
drwho
It works for columns and 3x3 regions, and you can reverse the logic to eliminate the possibility of a digit appearing in the row or column outside of an intersecting 3x3 region.
9:33 am
drwho
I use cross hatching as defined in the Wikipedia article on Sudoku. Wikipedia has pictures and once you see it I think you will agree it is the most descriptive term to describe a techique everone had to figure out before they could solve their first puzzle.
9:35 am
drwho
A missing digit scan is when you consider an empty square by tabulating all the digits used in the row, column and region containing the cell. If 8 of the 9 digits are present, then the missing digit MUST go in your empty cell.
9:38 am
drwho
I don't remember where I saw it, but I agree with the idea that the word "square" should not be used in relation to Sudoku, it's too ambiguous.
9:43 am
spellacked
I usually use the word "block" to refer to the 3x3 areas.
9:46 am
drwho
I like it. Maybe I will too. We could reserve regions to refer to rows, column or blocks collectively.
9:46 am
spellacked
a note on the missing digit scan: sometimes you only have 5 or 6 of the 9 filled in (say everything but 4,6,7 and 9), but two of them must be, say, 6 and 7, because they're both the only missing digits in an intersecting row (, column, or block) and of the two remaining, one *can't* be a 4, so the other *has to* be a 9.
9:50 am
drwho
I think you are referring to the Naked Pairs technique (see http://www.scanraid.com/sudoku.htm).
9:51 am
drwho
Or more accurately, you seem to be describing an application of Nake Pairs analysis followed by a cross hatching scan.
11:02 am
beertje
Yay I'm pro.
11:02 am
zemoxian
congrats!
11:03 am
beertje
Thanks :) Hmm, no Icelandic flag?
11:04 am
beertje
That was the number one reason for registering :P
11:06 am
poreid
Why don't you email Dr God - maybe he can add it for you
11:11 am
beertje
good idea.. right after I finish this puzzle, hehe
11:16 am
UnikeTheHunter
Rats, I made some mistake and I don't have any checkpoint.
11:20 am
UnikeTheHunter
Rats, I didn't recover from that mistake after all. I thought I was doing okay.
11:22 am
UnikeTheHunter
Nuts, I think I'll quit.
1:40 pm
rycaut
done without greens or checkpoints - nice puzzle though, harder I think than some of the recent "hards"
2:11 pm
aki2403
I can't believe it, I forgot to do the sudoku yesterday, and it was a hard too. *cries* :(
4:20 pm
skizzybiz
don't worry aki, this one is more fun anyway :)
4:21 pm
skizzybiz
(he says, 2 hours later)
6:05 pm
brittlefish.com
in
6:34 pm
skizzybiz
hey look, i keep forgetting to finish this
6:34 pm
skizzybiz
stupid work, getting in the way of sudoku
6:37 pm
chebuctonian
hi all
6:37 pm
skizzybiz
how goes?
6:37 pm
chebuctonian
pretty decent
6:37 pm
chebuctonian
you?
6:38 pm
skizzybiz
frazzled
6:38 pm
skizzybiz
but good :)
6:48 pm
chebuctonian
there we go... off to archives now
6:49 pm
skizzybiz
yeah, i've got all of thanksgiving vacation to go back and finish
6:49 pm
skizzybiz
that will have to wait until i'm less busy
6:50 pm
beertje
I just upgraded to pro... I've got 8 still to finish in march, and then most of the puzzles since then
6:50 pm
chebuctonian
I nearly gave up on March 28th's
6:53 pm
beertje
still haven't tried that one.. got something to look forward to then :P
6:53 pm
chebuctonian
some solvers can't break it
6:54 pm
chebuctonian
I'll be resorting to some brute force
7:06 pm
brittlefish.com
crap
7:08 pm
brittlefish.com
finally
8:16 pm
Playwoman
Finally. That was a little tough for a "medium"
11:08 pm
thedave
That was tough