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2:20 am
Linda
done - with lots of greens!
2:58 am
MrOoijer
piece of cake
5:42 am
bzikofski
done. no greens but it wasnt easy
6:28 am
yul
hello everybody
6:36 am
beertje
fell into the 'this is easy' trap and made a mistake... finally finished
6:37 am
yul
familiar siruation...
7:13 am
eyeman
great medium puzzle
7:15 am
beertje
*phew* went to the archives and finished an 'expert'. Think that's my first
7:15 am
beertje
Nearly done with March,then... :\
7:22 am
sxygirl
is anyone talking to me
7:24 am
stokesy
hiya sxygirl
9:04 am
spellacked
This one started slow... I usually get more quick 'must go there' spots on n easy, but as soon as I started scanning rows and columns with just a few items left, I found enough to fill in the rest of the board.
9:33 am
UnikeTheHunter
What I like about the easy ones is, you don't have to use the greens.
9:52 am
UnikeTheHunter
Darn, I guess I'll have to use the greens.
9:55 am
beertje
Woo, I've got a flag.
9:55 am
beertje
Now I can conquer the world
9:56 am
UnikeTheHunter
Nice flag. Beertje, did you do Expert level without any mistakes?
10:02 am
zemoxian
I've gotten through medium and a reacent "easy" hard with no greens. With mediums, when I do use greens, I usually find the spot that I missed that I didn't need greens for.
10:05 am
drwho
Difficulty score 19. Cross hatching is the only technique needed. Definitely can be done without green.
10:13 am
UnikeTheHunter
Even with greens I'm getting stuck!
10:15 am
drwho
Hang in there, you'll get it.
10:16 am
UnikeTheHunter
Thanks, just made a little progress.
10:21 am
drwho
Virtually everyone knows the cross hatch technique (see the Wikipedia article on Sudoku if you are not familiar with the name cross hatch).
10:22 am
drwho
But it is possible that some haven't figured out how easy it is to use the cross hatch technique.
10:23 am
drwho
Consider that the puzzle is partitioned into 9 3x3 blocks, and there are 3 columns (stacks) of blocks and 3 rows (chutes) of blocks.
10:24 am
drwho
Just consider one of the stacks of 3x3 blocks. It is composed of 3 columns of 9 cells requiring all 9 digits in each column.
10:25 am
drwho
If the digit 3 (for example) is in 2 of the 3 columns, you automatically know that the column without a 3 has only 3 cells where the digit 3 can go.
10:26 am
drwho
You know it because the digit 3 can only appear once in each of the 3x3 blocks in the stack. So the missing 3 is in the intersection of the only block and row without a 3.
10:29 am
drwho
The rest is simple. There may a digit in one of the 3 candidate cells and there may be a 3 in one of the rows intersecting the block so only one candidate cell remains.
10:31 am
UnikeTheHunter
Darn it! A mistake. I seem to make mistakes when I use the greens.
10:36 am
UnikeTheHunter
Is it considered "fair," when you don't understand the logic, to set a checkpoint, make a guess, and see if it works out?
10:36 am
drwho
For the expert puzzles that may be the only way to solve some of them.
10:51 am
drwho
Oops, I made a typo a couple of comments back. In a stack of 3x3 blocks with the digit 3 appearing in 2 of the 3 columns in the stack, you know the digit 3 can only appear once in each block so the intersection of the only COLUMN and block in the stack without a 3 is where the missing 3 must be.
11:03 am
UnikeTheHunter
When you discover you've made a mistake, is there any technique for unwinding it down to the offending move?
12:31 pm
Minski
Not if you set it in a checkpoint. If the mistake is set in a checkpoint the only thing to do is start over. That's why I only set checkpoints if I'm absolutely sure I'm correct.
12:48 pm
beertje
this is too addictive
12:49 pm
beertje
I'm running through the archives and keep going "Just one more..". I'd better stop or I get an overdose
12:54 pm
Minski
The archives are addictive. I used to start with Babble but now I start with sudoku to build up my confidence then get to babble if I get to it.
12:54 pm
beertje
congrats :)
12:56 pm
Douglas
mwah mwah mwah!
1:18 pm
mamabear
haste makes waste. now I gotta start over... I'm with Douglas.... mwah mwah mwah!!!!
1:22 pm
torgone
Whee! . .a point ...
2:22 pm
aki2403
done and done. probably doesn't need greens, but it is oooooooh so easy if they are used right from the start (I tend to on every puzzle, it helps when you're dispraxic & dislexic)
2:31 pm
helenkeller
go now
3:50 pm
bunnyvicious
done
3:56 pm
bunnyvicious
pause
4:08 pm
bunnyvicious
done
5:20 pm
beertje
That was quick :)
5:21 pm
beertje
btw, is it just me or is this place a bit quieter than it used to be?
5:29 pm
beertje
Good answer :P
6:19 pm
brittlefish.com
in
6:41 pm
brittlefish.com
out
6:49 pm
Niela
There is one problem with sudoku: it's more interesting than homeworks!
6:58 pm
chebuctonian
hi all
7:06 pm
chebuctonian
finally
7:07 pm
chebuctonian
wee! on to archives :)
7:20 pm
chebuctonian
now on June 3rd. Is anyone else here?
7:42 pm
Playwoman
I am, but perhaps you don't know me
9:29 pm
eyeman
hi Brie. Got your message thanks. I replied
9:30 pm
eyeman
Up to 100 yet?
9:30 pm
Bri413
i'm working on 8-20
9:31 pm
eyeman
I'm working on 5/23
11:37 pm
skizzybiz
alright quick, before it rolls over!
11:39 pm
skizzybiz
so brain dead...