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12:03 am
Krys10
excellent, an expert.
12:18 am
lawfully
at last...
12:19 am
skizzybiz
i've got 8 easy numbers so far. this one is going to be tricky
12:21 am
skizzybiz
nevermind, still making steady progress
12:31 am
skizzybiz
well, that was an easy 5 points. no guesses.
12:32 am
skizzybiz
and no forcing chains, or whatever those are called
12:33 am
lawfully
16 numbers so far, easy ones
12:36 am
skizzybiz
must be tougher without greens. i saw that Expert ranking and just started filling them in
12:46 am
lawfully
21 and stuck
12:57 am
lawfully
done... not so bad
1:10 am
kebek
easy expert?
1:15 am
Grendel
woo, that wasnt too hard
1:16 am
itzie
And here I was feeling proud that I was doing pretty well.
1:16 am
itzie
That explains it.
1:16 am
mab
hmm. wonder what drwho's rating will be
1:17 am
kebek
has anybody finished without green?
1:20 am
Grendel
but the christmas lights are there for a reason!
1:20 am
kebek
haha, i know, but i like to try first without :)
1:20 am
Grendel
well it gets hard to track things like X-Y patterns without them
1:21 am
Grendel
and this one had two xy groups
1:21 am
kebek
i haven't gotten that far yet :)
1:22 am
Grendel
other than that it was simple exclusions and exposed / hidden singles
1:22 am
itzie
I don't even know what that means.
1:24 am
Grendel
i don't have the link to the site that had all the terms and solving techniques, i'm sure someone else, especially drwho, would have it though.
1:24 am
Edonia
Done Goodnight folks.....
1:24 am
mab
if i knew what xy patterns were (and I will look them up) i'd be more concerned about marking, but generally I prefer minimal jumbling of tiny numbers. often it's easier without all the marking i think.
1:25 am
mab
i think it's scanraid.com, isn't it?
1:25 am
Grendel
i got to go
1:25 am
Grendel
l8r everyone
1:26 am
mab
bye grendel :)
1:28 am
kebek
http://www.scanraid.com/AdvanStrategies.htm
1:34 am
frogtaco
kebek, thanks for asking about "green"! That prompted me to mess around and figure out you could make notations by holding down shift. I never knew that.
1:34 am
kebek
:) you're welcome! they definitely come in handy sometimes.
1:34 am
itzie
I used to just do it with pencil and paper before I knew about that feature
1:35 am
frogtaco
I mostly play on the Seattle Times Web site, and usually avoid using notations. Sometimes they help out, but other times I get annoyed at the clutter.
1:36 am
itzie
Are you in Seattle?
1:36 am
frogtaco
Yep. Lake Forest Park.
1:36 am
itzie
Ballard. :)
1:37 am
frogtaco
Did you get much snow?
1:37 am
itzie
Yeah. Several inches. The sidewalks and side streets were awful.
1:37 am
kebek
it's snowing there?
1:38 am
kebek
my sister lives in seattle
1:38 am
itzie
It snowed yesterday and also on Monday night. The snow on monday was very wet and got compacted by cars etc. and was basically a sheet of ice on the streets.
1:38 am
frogtaco
We're at the top of a hill at about 470 feet, so we were snowed in for a couple days. (It's melting now, kebek, but we had a bunch of snow earlier in the week, followed by sub-freezing temps.)
1:39 am
itzie
It doesn't usually stay cold enough for snow to stick around, but it was freezing the last few days.
1:39 am
kebek
wow, ok. it doesn't usually snow much up there, does it?
1:39 am
frogtaco
Once every year or two, and then it melts the next day. Until this year.
1:41 am
itzie
Woo hoo! I finished. But I only found one little xy chain thingy (I think that's what it is called)
1:43 am
frogtaco
Congrats, itzie. I don't know any of the fancy terminology thingies.
4:27 am
h
1 guess forced (wrong) forced everything to work out for me - needed to fill in lots of greens tho...
7:08 am
eyeman
I guess I'm lucky. One lucky green guess, and it was smooth sailing till the end.
7:09 am
eyeman
Happy December, everyone. Next month at this time it will be 2007.
7:09 am
stokesy
happy days
7:10 am
eyeman
now off to work. :(
7:13 am
yul
found an only 6!
7:38 am
yul
and finished after first chain. Have a nice day, month,year :)
7:58 am
hokie carla
wow, easiest 5 pts. ever
8:51 am
allyelf
Easy. No reds, greens, checkpoints, or guesses.
10:52 am
zemoxian
I concur--breezy! :-D
10:53 am
zemoxian
Now, back to Oct 13, a "medium" that I've been staring at for 3 days...
11:55 am
zemoxian
Ahhh.... October is complete. Now I have just a few to catch up in November....
12:55 pm
drwho
Difficulty score 45. I filled in about 21 numbers without green or red. Then a few more with the green and got stuck. So I made 1 guess and everything fell into place.
1:24 pm
hurshy
easiest 5 points ever, says hokie. once i was sitting on the beach and somebody just walked up to me and gave me five points, so that was my easiest.
1:26 pm
hurshy
why can't i free your doubtful mind and melt your cold, cold heart?
1:27 pm
btwrt
so they say this one isn't challenging, aye?
1:27 pm
hurshy
they do be saying that
1:27 pm
hurshy
i am doing ok so far
1:27 pm
btwrt
doo be dooby dooo ...
1:28 pm
hurshy
what say you, minski? did you guess/use forcing chain?
1:29 pm
Twin C
blargh. i'm stuck
1:29 pm
hurshy
i have the 21, which drwho mentioned... i shall try to press on
1:31 pm
hurshy
our intrepid hero fights through the blinding mist of numbers
1:32 pm
btwrt
spaceman spiff?
1:32 pm
hurshy
well, i meant me, but sure
1:32 pm
btwrt
well, who doesn't want to be spaceman spiff
1:33 pm
hurshy
me. i'd prefer to be spacegirl spiff
1:33 pm
beertje
I have to say this starts off quite easy.. already finished the bottom right box
1:33 pm
hurshy
yes, the experts oft begin easily and then turn on you. but people are saying this one is good.
1:33 pm
btwrt
yeah. it's going very quickly for me also
1:33 pm
sandbox74
so that's how it feels to use a checkpoint...
1:34 pm
btwrt
i'd be spacechica
1:34 pm
beertje
I kind of suspect this one will turn nasty on me
1:37 pm
zemoxian
I didn't run into nastiness. I got a little creative with some of the moves, but that came pretty quickly.
1:37 pm
hurshy
to green or not to green, that is the question
1:38 pm
sandbox74
I would concur with others that once you fill the 21... it takes one right guess to make everything else fall easily
1:38 pm
hurshy
we no wishy to guess
1:38 pm
hurshy
we wishy to logic
1:38 pm
btwrt
it is against hurshys morals to guess
1:38 pm
zemoxian
No greens, backtracking, guesses, or chains for me. I think this was my first "Expert" that ran that quickly
1:38 pm
Limer
green it, baby!
1:38 pm
beertje
uhm.. what does 'fill the 21' mean?
1:38 pm
btwrt
yay! i feel hope
1:39 pm
hurshy
ooh, good to know zemox
1:39 pm
btwrt
good ol' MSU, aye zemoxian?
1:39 pm
hurshy
well dr who reported getting 21 without green, so i knew i could make it at least that far
1:39 pm
btwrt
i have no real affiliation with either, but my step-dad is a UM alum so it's fun to pretend to be an MSU fan ;)
1:40 pm
btwrt
for instance, around christmas it's nice to get him an MSU themed gift.
1:40 pm
hurshy
get your kicks on route 66
1:40 pm
hurshy
she doesn't look cruel, does she?
1:41 pm
zemoxian
Don't let the logo fool ya. I'm not football fan, but I do have enough school spirit to watch the occaisional MSU/UM game. I'm always happy to hear that UM got crushed. :-P
1:42 pm
btwrt
yeah i'm not into sports myself
1:42 pm
btwrt
i don't *look* cruel, hursh, that's part of the surprise :D
1:42 pm
zemoxian
My wife's from Kalamazoo so she really likes to talk trash with UM fans back at home.
1:42 pm
hurshy
this is what i was trying to say
1:43 pm
hurshy
i got a gal....... in kalamazoozoozoozoozoozoo
1:46 pm
btwrt
hmm. well i've got 20 and no apparent leads
1:46 pm
hurshy
you can get one more!
1:46 pm
btwrt
looooking..
1:52 pm
hurshy
why is it that some people are just so... dislikable
1:52 pm
btwrt
i dunno. i kinda like everybody. it's a curse.
1:53 pm
hurshy
this student that just stopped by. he's... he's...
1:53 pm
hurshy
i don't know how to explain it. he's just kind of whiny and annoying.
1:53 pm
btwrt
ahh. a teenager?
1:53 pm
hurshy
but many of our teenagers are ok.
1:54 pm
btwrt
mebbe he'll grow into a well-rounded human being
1:57 pm
aggy
Oh that took one right guess, but I am glad its over
2:15 pm
bunnyvicious
Can it be solved without a guess?
2:23 pm
beertje
could someone explain to me what 21 means? :p
2:23 pm
bunnyvicious
SHe found 21 numbers, was stuck on 20 for a bit...I think.
2:25 pm
beertje
I just saw someone mention it before, thought it was some sort of code hehe
2:46 pm
hurshy
i'm back from phone call, who's still here, btwrt
2:46 pm
hurshy
did you finish?
2:46 pm
bunnyvicious
Me unfortunately...
2:47 pm
hurshy
ok, well i'm breaking out the moose munch to see if that helps
2:48 pm
hurshy
i think i'm going to green it though. :(
2:48 pm
bunnyvicious
Hursh, you know alot about kitties. We have a kitten who is losing fur on it's feet and tail... can't really afford to take it to the vet at the moment. Any idea what it could be?
2:48 pm
hurshy
ringworm :(
2:49 pm
hurshy
unfortunately, you are going to have to take it to the vet
2:49 pm
bunnyvicious
What about the other cats? We have 9.
2:50 pm
hurshy
keep it away from them, although they've probably caught it by now
2:50 pm
hurshy
unless it is NOT ringworm, that's just the most common cause of fur loss
2:50 pm
bunnyvicious
Oh dear, calculating vet bill for nine cats.....
2:50 pm
bunnyvicious
Maybe I can get the vet to give me something for em all if I take in the one. There isn't an over the counter?
2:51 pm
hurshy
they need a medicated ointment, antibiotics, and/or special shampoo
2:52 pm
hurshy
and they need to be confined, because it is a fungus, it spreads by spores, and you have to clean the house VERY thoroughly or they'll just pick it up again
2:52 pm
bunnyvicious
Well, calling the vet then, maybe he'll bill me. We don't let the cats in the house though.
2:52 pm
hurshy
ah, well then you won't have to do all that cleaning
2:53 pm
hurshy
it could be something else.
2:53 pm
hurshy
but probably needs medication in any case.
2:54 pm
hurshy
if they are outdoors, then maybe they would be less likely to spread it to each other. in the house, if one gets it they all get it. so you might not need to treat them all.
2:55 pm
bunnyvicious
I also have a stray kitty, she is pregnant, won't let us come near her. I'm a sucker for strays, tried to tame her, but no luck.
2:55 pm
hurshy
aw, poor kitty
2:55 pm
hurshy
mine are all indoor, so it's pretty different, i would imagine.
2:56 pm
hurshy
and of course, i am not a vet - i just know ringworm cause mine had it!
2:56 pm
bunnyvicious
We used to let em come in and out, but when we moved, they just started using the bathroom all over the house, so I made em stay iout.
2:57 pm
hurshy
ringworm can be transmitted inter-species. it can also sometimes be picked up from soil. and kittens can have it without showing symptoms, thus easily passing it on to unsuspecting humans.
2:57 pm
bunnyvicious
I would love to let em come in, but I sure don't miss the cat hair everywhere.
2:57 pm
hurshy
if left untreated it just keeps eating deeper and deeper, eats away at skin, muscle, whatever it runs into.
2:58 pm
hurshy
do i sound like a medical dictionary? lol
2:59 pm
bunnyvicious
The kids have been playing with the kitten too, but I haven't any ring worms on them, yet... Will definately put the kitty in the kennel for now.
2:59 pm
bunnyvicious
Yup, but it's good to have extensive knowledge of SOMETHING! lol
2:59 pm
hurshy
they are not worms, it's kind of a misnomer. it is a fungus. it would just show up as a horseshoe shaped rash - it is athlete's foot fungus.
3:00 pm
kittybat
ok, so why am I having more trouble with yesterday's "easy" puzzle than I had with today's "expert" puzzle?
3:00 pm
hurshy
but i didn't get it when my cats had it, so your kids might not get it either.
3:01 pm
hurshy
of course with humans, you can cover it with a bandage and try not to touch things with the affected area to prevent the spread of the spores. but try telling a cat not to rub up against stuff...
3:01 pm
hurshy
if your kids do get a rash, that CAN be treated over the counter with any athlete's foot medication.
3:02 pm
bunnyvicious
I hope not.
Dunno Kitty, had a hard tim ewith todays.
3:04 pm
bunnyvicious
I got ahold the vet and he's gonna bill me if I can get there in a few minutes, and give me extra for the other kitties just in case. I love this man, thanks for the help Hursh, better get!
3:05 pm
hurshy
good luck bunny!
3:05 pm
hurshy
(you are bringing the cat, right? not relying on a non-vet internet diagnosis i hope :)
3:15 pm
hurshy
does anybody else ever find themselves tempted to say, well, if it went there, that would be too easy, so it must not go there... lol
3:16 pm
norinva
Amazing, got it more easily than I expected! Only had to make one guess, actually two guesses, since the first one didn't work!
3:17 pm
hurshy
zemox did not use a forcing chain... hmmm...
3:17 pm
hurshy
MAYBE zemox put something in when he techinically couldn't, and didn't notice, and it just turned out to be right.
3:21 pm
kittybat
I didn't need to guess on today's at all. Or use any super-advanced strategies, either. Sometimes it seems like it just depends on where you start. Start with the 1's and it is hard, start on, let's say the 7's and it is easy. Just my take on it.
3:21 pm
hurshy
and then there's the question of whether one is having a stupid day.
3:22 pm
hurshy
and whether one gets psyched out by it being CALLED an expert. which i think i did. done now, but forced it cause i'm a wimp today.
3:24 pm
hurshy
like non-hefty trash bags
3:26 pm
kittybat
hurshy, is your icon a picture of your kitty?
3:26 pm
hurshy
i have three kitties, but yes, this is one of them. his name is marty.
3:27 pm
hurshy
i am wapping him right now
3:28 pm
kittybat
what are your other kitties' names?
3:28 pm
hurshy
mitten and cinder
3:29 pm
hurshy
marty loves to be wapped. i hold him and wap his side, like as if you were burping a baby, and he purrs and purrs. he also loves to have his nose pet. he is very weird.
3:30 pm
hurshy
i have got to go now, picking up friends at the airport, nice chatting and see you later :)
4:03 pm
Zugzug7
I don't like playing these guessing games. They are illogical. But this time it worked out fine.
4:04 pm
aki2403
agreed, I like the logic only ones, I've had to restart this one so many times I can do the bottom right from memory
4:13 pm
aki2403
guesswork isn't required if you follow through where things can/can't go
4:14 pm
aki2403
so it is a logic only puzzle it would seem
7:15 pm
beertje
No........ I finished it, and then realized my connection was down
7:15 pm
beertje
Reloaded the page, and I was back at my last checkpoint :(
7:30 pm
JimD
Jeez, that was easy. Filled in all the easy ones, made a guess in the top-leftmost box where I had two choices left, and everything fell right out from there.
7:40 pm
eyeman
Hey, Brie! I feel you are thinking too hard.
7:40 pm
eyeman
working on 10/8 now. a toughie.
7:40 pm
Playwoman
Good for you, JimD. I am stuggling.
7:42 pm
Bri413
i'm still working on todays
7:42 pm
eyeman
OK. halfway done?
7:43 pm
eyeman
:) Bravo! You're over 100 now!
7:44 pm
eyeman
only 100 more and you'll be doubly happy
7:44 pm
Bri413
i'm gonna give 10/8 a shot
7:45 pm
eyeman
ok. be careful
7:45 pm
Bri413
lol, always
7:51 pm
Playwoman
I finished it, but I'm not proud because I made a guess.
8:13 pm
eyeman
phooey. no luck on 10/8. Off to bed. Nite all
8:13 pm
eyeman
seeya around the campus
8:14 pm
eyeman
I'll come back to this later.
9:48 pm
helenkeller
okay - just for the record i was helping hubby with work for the last hour
10:01 pm
brittlefish.com
in
10:02 pm
helenkeller
done