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Difficulty: Medium Sunday, December 17, 2006

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CHAT LOG for Sunday, December 17, 2006

1:00 am
WHB

Done
1:58 am
kebek

easy :)
6:04 am
peternl

hi all
6:27 am
Linda

done!
6:28 am
eyeman

Also done after couple guesses
10:29 am
aki2403

done, greens make thinks a whole heap easier.
10:39 am
Bri413

done, that was a good puzzle!!
5:13 pm
brittlefish.com

begin
5:26 pm
brittlefish.com

done
7:02 pm
eyeman

Can't get to first base on the 10/8 puzzle. Gotta be the toughest one in the archives.
7:03 pm
hurshy

10/8... i can take a look and give you a Super Duper Coded Hurshy Clue if you want
7:03 pm
eyeman

Hi Hurshey,
7:03 pm
eyeman

I
7:03 pm
eyeman

I'll be your pal for life.
7:04 pm
hurshy

alright, pick out a square that you'd like to know what goes in it and tell me what row and column.
7:05 pm
eyeman

OK. give me a moment more...
7:07 pm
eyeman

Row 7, Column 4 ?
7:07 pm
hurshy

very well, in a few minutes you will have your very own custom designed clue
7:08 pm
eyeman

Rule out 6,8,9,5,1, and 4. Does that help, Hurshy?
7:08 pm
hurshy

lol, no, that is unnecessary
7:08 pm
eyeman

(waiting with baited breath...)
7:12 pm
hurshy

the number you seek is: the number of geese a-laying times the number of wise men minus the number of horsemen of the apocalypse divided by the number of people that played becky on roseanne
7:12 pm
hurshy

and, um, in case you are interested, you actually had bated breath.
7:14 pm
eyeman

what a creative clue. I'm overwhelmed.
7:15 pm
chebuctonian

hi
7:15 pm
hurshy

oh, that is the nature of all Super Duper Coded Hurshy Clues. it is fun and prevents people who don't want clues from accidentally seeing them.
7:15 pm
hurshy

hey chebuc
7:16 pm
eyeman

unfortuately I don't watch roseanne. My loss. Bated breath?
7:16 pm
hurshy

not, i suppose, that secrecy is as necessary on a 2 month old puzzle as on the current one
7:17 pm
hurshy

yes, bated breath. if you have got up to the roseanne part, well, you can probably guess what the answer is :)
7:18 pm
eyeman

I always thought it was baited, like a worm on a hook. Isn't bated short for abate?
7:18 pm
hurshy

if you ate a mint to try to get a girl to kiss you, that might be baited breath. if you are eagerly awaiting something, you have bated breath.
7:20 pm
eyeman

Gotcha. What if I'm waiting for both? Spearmint usually works. lol
7:21 pm
hurshy

but yes, it is related to abate. i guess the idea is that you are having trouble breathing cause you are so anxious?
7:21 pm
hurshy

baited bated breath, eh? that is amusing.
7:22 pm
eyeman

and if you're waiting for a kiss, that's a bated baited date.
7:22 pm
hurshy

did you figure your square? it has to be one of two things once you get to roseanne, and which number do you think there would be playing one character on a show?
7:24 pm
eyeman

I just remember the 3 wise men from Amahl and the Night Visitor.
7:25 pm
eyeman

Will look it up the others later, but thank you for the unique clue. (not eunoch) clue. lol
7:25 pm
hurshy

pretty much anything i put in a SDCHC is googleable, too.
7:26 pm
hurshy

i try to pick things that are relatively common knowledge and/or easy to find out on the internet.
7:26 pm
eyeman

you do it very well, I might add.
7:27 pm
hurshy

oh, thank you. i didn't think that one was my best work, but i'm glad you like it. :)
7:27 pm
eyeman

Are you in New England, by the way?
7:28 pm
hurshy

yes indeedy
7:28 pm
eyeman

small world! SE Mass. here
7:29 pm
hurshy

i love new england, have always lived in this corner of the world
7:29 pm
eyeman

You probably gathered that Bri413 and I work for the same company
7:30 pm
hurshy

mmm... no, who is Bri413
7:31 pm
hurshy

i had only just got here when you mentioned your 10/8 troubles.
7:31 pm
eyeman

Brianna - she's working her way up through the Regulars, close to 200 or so now.
7:31 pm
hurshy

ah, that is nice. it's nice when you can get your friends and coworkers addicted to the same things you are addicted to. :)
7:32 pm
eyeman

We work for a company called Cambridge Eye Doctors. Yep, I told her about the website. She's hooked, too.
7:32 pm
hurshy

i have always thought it would be nice to work with eye doctors. or dentists. i don't know why.
7:33 pm
eyeman

You'll be showered with respect and good colleagues, if not money.
7:34 pm
hurshy

lol
7:34 pm
eyeman

Dentists have their tooth fairy. We need an eye fairy.
7:34 pm
hurshy

so that when your eyeball pops out you leave it under your pillow in exchange for a quarter?
7:35 pm
eyeman

Right. Or if you've had lasik and the flap comes off, it can go under the pillow. lol
7:35 pm
hurshy

lasik is laser eye surgery, what is the flap?
7:37 pm
eyeman

The surgeon makes a flap on the cornea, lasers the corneal stroma, and replaces the flap so everything heals nicely.
7:37 pm
hurshy

sounds delightfully disgusting
7:38 pm
eyeman

that's an oxymoron!
7:38 pm
eyeman

Lasers are used sometimes to treat glaucoma and diabetic retinopathy.
7:38 pm
hurshy

not necessarily... oscar the grouch would enjoy beautiful trash
7:39 pm
hurshy

it all depends on your point of view
7:39 pm
hurshy

and your point of view depends on how well the surgeon has done your lasik, so the argument has come full circle
7:39 pm
eyeman

and his friend Kermit is still trying to get used to the color green. Maybe that's where these greenies come from??
7:40 pm
eyeman

from Kermit's bated or baited breath? lol
7:40 pm
hurshy

you're so naive - kermit's insecurity was just a pose - none of these big-time musicians MEAN what they sing - trust me, that frog was laughing all the way to the bank.
7:42 pm
eyeman

You mean money is the object to everything? (accent on the ob, not the ject).
7:43 pm
hurshy

well, for celebrities, it is clearly important, or they would not sacrifice their privacy for it.
7:43 pm
hurshy

would YOU want everyone to know YOU were in love with a narcissistic pig?
7:44 pm
eyeman

Their agents, too. Look at the new Red Sox pitcher, Daiske Matzos something.
7:44 pm
hurshy

hmm, i do not know anything about that. i find baseball unutterably boring, and therefore do not pay any attention to it.
7:44 pm
eyeman

You make a good point about the pig.
7:45 pm
hurshy

i always make good points about pigs.
7:46 pm
eyeman

Why, I've never known you to be a poor pigpointer.
7:46 pm
hurshy

*gravely* thank you. i do tend to win all the pig-related debates in my debate society.
7:47 pm
eyeman

And in doing so I expect you to bring home the bacon.
7:48 pm
hurshy

sadly, there is not a lot of money in debate, unless you go into politics, where the goal is not to make good points, but to be sufficiently vague that everyone vaguely likes you.
7:48 pm
hurshy

even then, there is only money if you engage in pork-barrel politics.
7:50 pm
eyeman

Yes, if you go into politics, you can't sty at home and be loinly.
7:50 pm
eyeman

lol
7:51 pm
hurshy

our last debate was about whether pigs have wings. the one before that was about sealing wax, which was preceded by one about shoes, and the one before that was something to do with ships.
7:52 pm
hurshy

there are some real ripsnorters coming up, on why the sea is boiling hot, cabbages, and kings.
7:52 pm
eyeman

I hope that the consensus was that pigs are wingless.
7:53 pm
eyeman

isn't a female pig called a sow?
7:53 pm
hurshy

it could not be settled due to the prevalence of references to "when pigs fly" - some felt that they must therefore have wings.
7:53 pm
Python Taz

yes
7:53 pm
hurshy

yes, female pig is called a sow.
7:54 pm
eyeman

Can sows sew in snow?
7:54 pm
eyeman

Male pig is called what? (Careful)
7:55 pm
hurshy

i don't believe a sow can sew, nor sow, so...
7:55 pm
moedog

a boar?
7:55 pm
hurshy

a male pig is called wilbur.
7:55 pm
eyeman

how boring... Wilbur?!
7:56 pm
hurshy

wilbur, boring?? no way - he's Some Pig!
7:56 pm
moedog

/me rolls eyes
7:56 pm
eyeman

Besides, a boring pig can bore his way through the mud.
7:57 pm
eyeman

sorry moedog.
7:59 pm
eyeman

My education must be lacking if I never heard of Wilbur the Pig. Porky, yes, as well as Petunia.
7:59 pm
hurshy

wilbur... charlotte's web...
8:00 pm
eyeman

oh, ok. Never read Charlotte's website.
8:00 pm
eyeman

(just kidding)
8:00 pm
hurshy

she died afore the internet gave spiders a wider forum for their opinions.
8:01 pm
moedog

the faaaaaair is a veeeeeritable smorgasbord orgasbord orgasbord.....
8:03 pm
eyeman

I see... By the way does an Arachnid have anything to do with Iraq? Is a spider in Baghdad called an Iraqi Arachnidi?
8:03 pm
hurshy

would they have a thoraxis of evil?
8:04 pm
eyeman

too funny....
8:04 pm
hurshy

funny? wait, i thought we were having a solemn discussion of important world affairs.
8:04 pm
eyeman

I do know that a mentally disturbed citizen of Iraq might be labelled a wacky Iraqi.
8:06 pm
hurshy

now now eyeman, that pun is tacky.
8:06 pm
eyeman

What's an important world affair these days?
8:06 pm
hurshy

whether susan will end up with mike or ian!
8:07 pm
eyeman

Don't watch that soap, but I think Ian. Just a hunch. Mike will find another girlfriend.
8:08 pm
hurshy

are you crazy???? ian may be easier to get along with, rich, charming, and have a sexy accent, but susan and mike... that's Destiny
8:10 pm
eyeman

I didn't know that. But Ian will attract someone more to his likiing, then. What's so special about Susan to Ian?
8:10 pm
hurshy

i mean so what if mike has killed some people and had some drug issues. he's clean now and he had good reasons for the killing bit.
8:11 pm
hurshy

what's special about susan... well, she's just one of those really adorable, clutzy, super-hot women that men have an instinct to protect.
8:11 pm
chebuctonian

what the heck are you guys talking about?
8:11 pm
hurshy

chebuc - i don't think eyeman actually knows :)
8:12 pm
eyeman

Must be a soap opera, Chebuc. I don't know whuch one.
8:12 pm
eyeman

see?
8:12 pm
hurshy

lol, it's Desperate Housewives.
8:12 pm
chebuctonian

aha :)
8:12 pm
eyeman

I see, said the eyeman.
8:12 pm
hurshy

but, you know, if ian's wife comes out of her coma... maybe he will feel differently.
8:13 pm
eyeman

how long is her comma? Ooops, coma.
8:13 pm
hurshy

3 years and counting
8:14 pm
eyeman

did he hit her on the head?
8:14 pm
hurshy

oh NO, of course not. ian wouldn't do such a thing!
8:15 pm
hurshy

orson, sure.
8:15 pm
hurshy

but not ian.
8:15 pm
eyeman

Did Susan and Ian's wife know each other?
8:15 pm
hurshy

nope
8:16 pm
eyeman

But since Ian's wife is unresponsive, Susan is the opposite, right?
8:16 pm
hurshy

susan and ian met because mike was in a coma too and they were both always at the hospital, ian visiting jane and susan visiting mike.
8:16 pm
hurshy

only now mike is out of his coma.
8:17 pm
eyeman

Will Mike ever meet Jane, even when she comes to?
8:17 pm
hurshy

highly unlikely.
8:18 pm
eyeman

So Susan and Ian need lots of attention.
8:18 pm
hurshy

not more so than anyone else...
8:19 pm
eyeman

everyone likes attention
8:19 pm
eyeman

while they're awake, anyway.
8:19 pm
hurshy

actually, i don't think that can be true, given the number of people who lurk but never chat on this site and on babble.
8:20 pm
hurshy

if they wanted attention, they would make nuisances of themselves, as i do.
8:20 pm
eyeman

yes, there are 37 of us online now watching us.
8:21 pm
eyeman

Good lurk to everyone.
8:21 pm
hurshy

oh is that all? on babble there are a lot more.
8:22 pm
hurshy

once in paris it suddenly began to pour. everyone rushed for the shelter of the awnings... so i danced in the streets and had paris to myself. lurkers miss all the fun. :)
8:22 pm
eyeman

I haven't figured babble out yet but should give it a try. But now I need to sign off and check e-mails. See you around the sudoku campus.
8:23 pm
hurshy

ttfn, eyeman - don't heed teddy roosevelt's advice, for i think a big stick would send the wrong message in your line of work.
8:23 pm
eyeman

I'm glad Paris had you alone for awhile!
8:25 pm
eyeman

I'm not worried - I examined FDR's grandson recently - Teddy's grand-nephew.
8:25 pm
hurshy

oooh, fancy
8:25 pm
eyeman

he had two eyes.
8:26 pm
hurshy

humph. i would expect more from a roosevelt.
8:26 pm
eyeman

OK, Ciao for now.
8:26 pm
eyeman

He was a svelte Roosevelt.
8:26 pm
hurshy

adios, au revoir, and the german one i can't spell!
8:27 pm
eyeman

:)
8:30 pm
hurshy

fathoms belo-ow, belo-ow, from whence wayward westerlies blow... where triton is king and his merpeople sing in mysterious fathoms below
8:34 pm
hurshy

ah, there now. that wasn't so hard, i was just plum distracted with all the chit-chat.
9:12 pm
helenkeller

go
9:54 pm
drwho

Difficulty 40. Not too bad with little green numbers. The most advance technique needed is region intersection analysis.
10:34 pm
spellacked

actually very easy once the little green men were added -- one pass through the grid revealed everything. I probably should have been able to get it without the greens, at that rate.