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12:20 am
skizzybiz
i am living in a medium world
12:20 am
skizzybiz
and i am a medium... girl?
12:25 am
skizzybiz
ever the fine bunch of conversationalists
12:25 am
austinuu
if you make us talk, you'll screw up the scientific process
12:26 am
skizzybiz
hehe, it's scientific, is it?
12:26 am
austinuu
that's what the doctor says
12:26 am
skizzybiz
think of the price you pay just by saying "go" and "done"
12:26 am
skizzybiz
it'll catch up with you in your old age, you know
12:27 am
austinuu
It's $14.95 for the pro version, just like anyone else
12:27 am
austinuu
oh, I get it now
12:27 am
austinuu
you're making a potty joke
12:28 am
skizzybiz
wow, you got that from what i said?
12:28 am
austinuu
when you have kids you find yourself saying things you'd never image .... you went poo poo in the potty? really? that's great!
12:29 am
austinuu
I'm so excited!
12:29 am
skizzybiz
i mean, i'm perfectly willing to take credit for it
12:30 am
austinuu
well what are you saying .... that all "I am starting the task" and "I have not completed the task" does not make for an emotionally satisfying experience?
12:31 am
skizzybiz
emotions! i thought we were talking about science
12:31 am
austinuu
emotions! science! it's all process
12:31 am
skizzybiz
alright, well i am all...
12:31 am
skizzybiz
finished? completed?
12:31 am
skizzybiz
i just can't think of the right word here
12:32 am
skizzybiz
nope, it's not that one
12:32 am
austinuu
I suppose the question is, "people who say nothing but 'go' and 'done'", what are they really trying to communicate?
12:32 am
austinuu
And do they really have souls?
12:33 am
skizzybiz
something tells me they wouldn't pass a turing test
12:34 am
austinuu
I didn't do that well either, I think I got a B-, but barely
12:34 am
skizzybiz
can you imagine a conversation between an iron sudoku player and Eliza?
12:34 am
skizzybiz
"is it because of your mother that you say 'go'?"
12:35 am
austinuu
maybe we could just fill the chatterbox with numbers, as if it was a game of go fish
12:35 am
austinuu
give me all of your sevens
12:35 am
austinuu
particularly the seven in the first column, since I am making about no progress here
12:36 am
skizzybiz
funny thing about that, is i have no idea how i progressed through this puzzle
12:37 am
skizzybiz
i think i let some part of my brain solve it that was only very loosely connected to my consciousness
12:37 am
skizzybiz
anyway, no 7s. go fish
12:37 am
skizzybiz
do you have any Bs?
12:38 am
austinuu
there is no seven in the first column? there has to be a seven...it's iron sudoku, not wacky sudoku. No, I don't have any Bs.
12:39 am
skizzybiz
maybe someone over at babble could help with that...
12:39 am
pito75
I have BINGO!
12:39 am
skizzybiz
actually, i do remember one detail. there's a hidden pair that's easy to find and reveals a couple other numbers. really gets the ball rolling
12:40 am
austinuu
i've forgotten my secret babble code, but that's b5/8?
12:40 am
augurus
What do I say when I win Bingo?
12:40 am
skizzybiz
well sure pito, because you got the middle square for free... and about 20 other squares
12:41 am
austinuu
most people say "bingo" but if you want to try something different, I'm cool with that
12:41 am
skizzybiz
augurus was his name-o?
12:41 am
austinuu
like a Fred Flintstonian "yabba yabba doo"
12:55 am
h
done, no greens
12:56 am
raggedyandy3478
same
12:57 am
h
those other folks were having fun... :)
12:57 am
austinuu
pssst. we can still hear you
12:57 am
austinuu
well, not hear you
12:58 am
austinuu
so much as read the letters that you type
12:58 am
h
ok - im discarding a 3 of clubs...
12:58 am
austinuu
dang! still looking for that seven in the first col
12:59 am
skizzybiz
the 7 will be found when its time has come
12:59 am
skizzybiz
have you found the pair in the upper right?
12:59 am
h
and forgotten soon after...
1:00 am
austinuu
i haven't even made it to that quadrant
1:00 am
austinuu
or whatever the equivalent term is for the 1/9th segment
1:00 am
h
skizzy is giving you a hint - look closer?
1:02 am
h
this whole puzzle is about pairs and triplets of knowledge... then whatever digits are left just fall-out...
1:03 am
austinuu
oh look, there's a common multiplier of three in that grid
1:05 am
austinuu
is that different from any of the other iron sudoku puzzles?
1:05 am
h
draws the two-of-spades... rummy...
1:06 am
austinuu
or was that a comment about sudoku in general?
1:06 am
h
uh, what? most of the other ones i end up looking for single digits. this one was looking for blocks-of-digits. i dont know, it "felt" different...
1:06 am
h
ie - specific to this puzzle, for me...
1:08 am
austinuu
I see, like in the Matrix, when Neo starts seeing the social construct of reality as binary code
1:09 am
h
maybe... i think im too tanned to be neo... ;)
1:10 am
h
did the pair-hint for the top-block make sense? or should i leave you alone to work on it quietly...
1:11 am
h
oddly, when yall were bantering - it was kinda nice - i didnt actually read any of it - but the scrolling screen was cool...
1:11 am
h
im SINGing in the rain...
1:12 am
austinuu
oh yes, I have the ... is there a numbering system for these quadrants?
1:12 am
austinuu
or 1/9th tents?
1:12 am
h
i think we call them "blocks"
1:13 am
austinuu
are they numbered block 1, block 2, block 3?
1:13 am
h
nah - top-right, bottom-center...
1:14 am
austinuu
okay, well then yes it was helpful. I have completed the top-right and center-right blocks, and narrowed it down to two choices for the top center and bottom right
1:14 am
h
rows and cols are 1 thru 9 in standard top-bottom left-right matrix format.
1:14 am
austinuu
dang that's a lot of text
1:16 am
h
hmm - thats odd, i dont think i understood you... a block is a 3x3 grid. are you describing individual cells inside a block? egads - youre right - too much text... :)
1:17 am
austinuu
we have rows 1 through 9. we have columns 1 through 9. my question is whether the blocks/grids are also referred to in that way.
1:18 am
austinuu
if I could be a superhero, I'd want to be wikipedia man
1:18 am
austinuu
that way, I'd know the answer to almost everything ... almost
1:19 am
h
wikipedia-man, cool! no - dont think so on numbering the blocks/grids...
1:20 am
h
you said you had the top-right and center-right bocks... did you mean 18 cells were filled in?
1:21 am
h
bwackk... bok bok... :::rooster/hen noises:::
1:21 am
austinuu
yabba yabba doo!
1:21 am
austinuu
for the doctor, that means done.
1:21 am
h
so what DOES the 23 in 23-skidoo mean? tell us mister wikipedia-man... ;)
1:22 am
h
hey - congrats!
1:22 am
austinuu
oh, I was looking up the block/grid question. they're actually called regions
1:23 am
h
i sit - corrected... :)
1:24 am
austinuu
they're also called blocks as well
1:24 am
austinuu
A Sudoku grid has 9 rows, columns and boxes each having 9 cells.
1:25 am
austinuu
The full grid has 81 cells. Cells are commonly called squares, but in technical descriptions the term square is avoided since the boxes and grid are also squares.
1:25 am
austinuu
Boxes are also known as blocks.
1:25 am
austinuu
Three vertically stacked blocks make a stack.
1:25 am
austinuu
Three horizontally connected blocks make a band.
1:25 am
austinuu
A chute is either a band or a stack.
1:26 am
austinuu
A grid has 3 bands, 3 stacks and 6 chutes.
1:27 am
austinuu
there is no authoritative explanation for the "23" in "23 skiddoo"
1:27 am
austinuu
but rather multiple possible sources
3:24 am
eyeman
whew, did it. Now off to jury duty! Hope I can find a parking space.
4:30 am
spreadeagle
Done. Not many freebies, needed greens.
5:48 am
andy99
quote -"A Sudoku grid has 9 rows, columns and boxes each having 9 cells"
5:48 am
andy99
thanks for the advice
9:30 am
adquilt
Got it! I was just about to give up when all of a sudden I hit a string of completions. With just 2 days on the site, I'm not sure I want to see a difficult puzzle - mediums are quite a challenge.
9:30 am
adquilt
spreadeagle - still haven't completed 5/4/06 puzzle. Think I'll turn it over to my son. Guessing seems to be the only way to complete it, but I keep guessing wrong!!
9:53 am
hurshy
well, i felt that this one was pretty easy, but then, i followed my dad's advice (which, unless your dad is a real screw-up, tends to be a good thing to do)
9:59 am
spellacked
This one's a slow starter: basic scans only turned up a 3, two 7s and an 8.
10:16 am
spellacked
but after only about 1/2 the greens, it all falls into place
10:26 am
UnikeTheHunter
Go.
10:38 am
spreadeagle
adquilt - I'm glad I wasn't the only one that had to guess. Had to guess again for 5/5, and now 5/10 has me stuck. I really try hard to avoid guessing, but the advance strategies I've seen at sites like scanraid.com don't make much sense to me. Yet. I'm going to go back and read it again.
10:49 am
UnikeTheHunter
Man, I hardly got any before I had to put in the greens. And I'm still stuck.
11:06 am
UnikeTheHunter
Things really opening up.
11:12 am
drwho
Difficulty score 20. Another exercise in region interesection analysis.
11:14 am
drwho
I am going to be more agreeable than my distinguished collegue was yesterday and concur that today's was easy, though a slow at first.
11:19 am
UnikeTheHunter
Got it.
1:22 pm
torgone
Piece of pie ..
1:46 pm
redshoes
TORGOOOOONE!
2:01 pm
redshoes
and done.
4:56 pm
bunnyvicious
done, yuck
6:12 pm
brittlefish.com
go
6:22 pm
irv
A little tough to begin with
6:27 pm
helenkeller
i agree with irv :)
6:36 pm
brittlefish.com
done. sheesh.
10:18 pm
Minski
Done! Had to return to checkpoint a few times, but I finally got it.