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Difficulty: Hard Saturday, February 3, 2007

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CHAT LOG for Saturday, February 3, 2007

12:01 am
smooth_pappa

go!
12:09 am
smooth_pappa

done!
12:44 am
WHB

Done
2:31 am
sungu

done:)))
3:47 am
caderoux

go
4:00 am
caderoux

done
4:21 am
Jencatd

go
4:33 am
indoovibly

im rather stuck on this one
4:42 am
MrOoijer

done, i needed greens :-(
4:56 am
Jencatd

I'll have to get some sleep, then carry on with this, i think. ^^;
5:28 am
indoovibly

done, tha was difficult
5:39 am
h

go
5:49 am
h

11 filled going green...
5:59 am
h

used autofill - what a mess... too tired for this - so am going to _guess_ or force-chain using reds...
6:02 am
Kukana

i dont like autofill, I'd rather do it myself then I see hidden pairs as I go
6:03 am
Kukana

there's a hidden pair (or whatever it's called) in the centre box
6:03 am
h

usually do, but i wasnt seeing any pairs anyway, so i thought id try auto... thanx for the clue - i dont see it yet...
6:04 am
Kukana

A 25 pair, I think.. not sure it's helping all that much mind you!
6:04 am
h

got it... neato.
6:05 am
Kukana

Yeah... slowly other things are falling into place now due to that
6:10 am
Kukana

done!
6:10 am
h

congrats! and thanx again - it is starting to come together for me too, i think...
6:10 am
Kukana

I really needed greens, though!
6:11 am
h

yuppers.
6:16 am
h

done - thanx kukana!
6:47 am
irv

finally done
8:45 am
drwho

Difficulty score 25. It was tougher than that. There were several hidden pairs to find.
9:58 am
brittlefish.com

go
10:12 am
brittlefish.com

done
10:13 am
brittlefish.com

kinda tough. needed greens and a helpful naked pair.
10:13 am
Krys10

i hate hidden pairs
10:13 am
Krys10

i hate hidden pairs
10:16 am
brittlefish.com

:)
10:17 am
brittlefish.com

wasn't exactly hidden. just nekkid.
10:17 am
brittlefish.com

(probably should have been hidden)
10:17 am
Krys10

those at least are easier. I was looking at Drwho's observation too
10:17 am
Krys10

("immodest pairs"?_
10:19 am
brittlefish.com

ah. i didn't anything hidden though. maybe i wasn't looking close enough.
10:19 am
brittlefish.com

...didn't "see" anything hidden...
10:20 am
mamabear

you couldn't see them.... cuz they were hidden
10:20 am
brittlefish.com

:)
10:21 am
brittlefish.com

how'd drwho see them? x-ray specs?
10:21 am
mamabear

3 d glasses he stole from the movies
10:24 am
mamabear

all greened up - I think I am going to challenge myself and do the 1's first! LOL
10:32 am
Krys10

yup, one hidden pair unlocked the whole thing for me. it involves a 5/8, for those of you who hate hidden pairs as much as i do :)
10:36 am
mamabear

hmmmm...... me thinks I am going to have to guess.... I hate that
10:48 am
mamabear

Except when the first guess works - then ILOVE it!!! Have a good day all!
10:49 am
Linda

how do you work out hidden pairs?
10:51 am
mamabear

Say for instance you have 1, 2 and 3 in only 3 cells in a row - so you know those 3 have to be those 3 numbers. You can eliminate all other numbers from those boxes, and also eliminate 1, 2 and 3 from the other cells in that row - sometimes a hidden pair will emerge.
10:52 am
Linda

thanks - i think!
10:52 am
mamabear

hint: try it in horizontal row 4
10:53 am
dorens

linda... in general, f you try it with pairs (two) rather than three, it might be easier to start... but not necessarily in this puzzle. and mamabear, thanks so much for the hint
10:54 am
mamabear

oh good! I thought I was going to get yelled at! You're welcome, dorens *wink*
10:54 am
dorens

I would love to be able to do this without guessing...if possible.. and wasjust wondering if it would be possible. Maybe, with the help, just maybe
10:56 am
mamabear

well after I found the hidden in row 4, I went so far and then ended up guessing. But I was lucky and guessed right the first time. I don't like to guess either, but not worth losing brain cells over either! good luck
10:56 am
dorens

ah, but you're way ahead of me. I still am not finding the hidden in 4.... maybe i need a break... i;'m sure i will find it
10:57 am
Linda

wow i sorted of guessed and it worked. perhaps i used hidden pairs without realising it!
11:03 am
mamabear

I'm sure you will too, dorens -
11:03 am
mamabear

have a great day everyone, and ...... GO BEARS!!!!
11:04 am
dorens

you too mama.... go bears here too!
12:21 pm
dorens

well--it took a long time (with some time out for lunch, and a few phone calls) but I DID do it without guessing.
1:30 pm
helenkeller

go
1:40 pm
helenkeller

i'm sleepy, going to take a nap now - bbl to finish
3:01 pm
Minski

Done! Only had to make 2 guesses.
3:54 pm
Moozey

no guesses required but I did need greenies
7:50 pm
Jiraya

Hi everyone, I just turned Pro
8:46 pm
LeslieAnn

congrats, jiraya! have fun in the archives.
8:53 pm
spellacked

Glad I looked down... unsolvable without that hidden pair in for 4
8:53 pm
Jencatd

Coolies, Jiraya! Now to finish this grid. :D
8:57 pm
Zugzug7

After using the Auto-fill, I didn't find this too difficult. Lots of 1-7 pairs though.
8:59 pm
Jencatd

done
9:26 pm
Python Taz

auto fill is cheating
9:26 pm
Python Taz

i use brain cells
11:28 pm
Andy

go
11:44 pm
Andy

done