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12:28 am
pthomp
hello all from AZ
12:28 am
AFShortie
hello from Las Vegas
12:29 am
raggedyandy3478
hello from Atlanta
1:45 am
peternl
very easy
3:44 am
h
27 left to go, but im sick and cant see any more - going green...
6:41 am
franebrown
not easy
6:57 am
drwho
Difficulty score 24. Perhaps a little harder than the average Easy.
6:57 am
franebrown
definitely (for me anyways)
6:58 am
drwho
Patience, all you really need to know is cross-hatching.
7:02 am
franebrown
Finally! Found a couple of hidden pairs. Got to re-read the definition of cross-hatching once again. Thanx.
7:03 am
franebrown
I meant finally finished.
7:03 am
drwho
Yup, I saw a pair, then I realized that I would have learned the same thing by cross-hatching.
7:03 am
drwho
Whatever gets you the answer.
7:04 am
franebrown
Agree!
7:11 am
Andy
ugh... just finished a hard from the archives which was brutal.
7:11 am
Andy
Now on to today's...
7:36 am
smooth_pappa
good morning!
7:40 am
smooth_pappa
well done andy!
7:40 am
Andy
Cross hatching only, no greens. Takes time and patience, that's for sure
7:40 am
smooth_pappa
yeah... seems to be a sticky patch or two
7:41 am
Andy
And now, off to start all the easter sunday fun (aka "Why is it again I can't sit in my PJs and do Sudoku all morning again?")
7:42 am
smooth_pappa
done
7:44 am
spreadeagle
Done. No greens, just crosshatching.
8:02 am
chebuctonian
hello :)
8:09 am
chebuctonian
done - odd pattern, but it turned out easy after all :)
8:43 am
Atalante
easy peasy
10:05 am
spellacked
done, greenfree
10:10 am
abstract17fr
hello there and .. Happy EASTER !
10:11 am
smooth_pappa
happy easter, abstract!
10:15 am
abstract17fr
nice pic pappa ;-)
10:16 am
abstract17fr
done and go :)
10:17 am
smooth_pappa
thanks abstract, it was on a photo shoot with a firend of mine... he snapped that one while I was looking at my next shot :)
10:18 am
abstract17fr
ok .. I have to go now :( see u next time pappa
10:18 am
abstract17fr
Bye everybody
10:19 am
smooth_pappa
bye abstract!
2:07 pm
night_walker_52
Afternoon Andy, are you working in the archives?
2:07 pm
night_walker_52
Me too, I
2:07 pm
Andy
Waiting for the water to boil for egg decorating :)
2:08 pm
night_walker_52
Me too, I'm on May 4th, how about you?
2:08 pm
Andy
April 26, 2006
2:09 pm
night_walker_52
I didn't do that stuff with my kids this year.
2:09 pm
Andy
We're decorating today rather than having done it earlier.
2:09 pm
Andy
We're decorating today rather than having done it earlier.
2:10 pm
night_walker_52
Didn't give them an egg hunt this year either, I think they got ripped off :)
2:10 pm
Andy
We did the egg hunt at school. Good enough. He did a basket hunt this morning (left a trail of clues around the house which assembled into a treasure map).
2:12 pm
night_walker_52
That sounds like fun. We did treasure hunts when the kids learned how to read. They had a blast.
2:13 pm
Andy
Now it's boil the eggs then my wife will do the decorating while I do more sudoku or, perhaps, a short coma and then I make easter dinner. Then another coma. :)
2:15 pm
night_walker_52
That will be a nice treat for your wife. I love it when mine cooks supper for me.
2:15 pm
Andy
later... or sooner... but not now :)
2:15 pm
night_walker_52
We're going out for supper.
3:13 pm
Andy
Right now, I'm wishing we were going out to supper. Too darn tired to cook
3:23 pm
night_walker_52
did your kids wake you up to early for their hunt?
3:25 pm
night_walker_52
Am I ever having a hard time with this one. It's only a medium and I'm stuck.
3:42 pm
Andy
He did wake me early. But we were already up. I was already on this site :)
3:42 pm
Andy
Just staretd the hard from April 27
3:43 pm
night_walker_52
I can't figure out this medium from May 4, I might have to start over.
3:56 pm
Andy
You got me curious...t rying the may 4 now
3:57 pm
Andy
lovely... no 1s to start...
4:03 pm
Andy
found 14 though cross hatching. Now starting on intersections (and more cross hatching)
4:14 pm
Andy
Got 16 but am stuck now. Going green.
4:26 pm
Andy
Break time. Gotta cook easter dinner... finish this later
4:40 pm
UnikeTheHunter
Go.
5:09 pm
UnikeTheHunter
Done. No greens. Two loners. Lots of needs thought.
5:58 pm
night_walker_52
Are you back yet Andy?
6:05 pm
night_walker_52
I think I found an xy chain
6:08 pm
smooth_pappa
hello hello... looks like i'm not the only one working on the archives tonight, huh?
6:10 pm
night_walker_52
nope
6:10 pm
smooth_pappa
I just started on 12/21's expert
6:11 pm
night_walker_52
I'm having trouble with May 4th's
6:11 pm
smooth_pappa
i'll have a look after this one
6:19 pm
smooth_pappa
going green
6:20 pm
smooth_pappa
and done
6:21 pm
OrangeSlice
Working Nov. 8th here.
6:21 pm
smooth_pappa
ok... may 4 let's see
6:25 pm
smooth_pappa
youre right... it is sticky
6:26 pm
night_walker_52
working intersection removal again
6:28 pm
OrangeSlice
Look for xwings and unique rectangles, typically those are what you need for the tougher mediums.
6:28 pm
night_walker_52
okay
6:34 pm
smooth_pappa
i got it done but don't ask me how
6:34 pm
OrangeSlice
I might have to green this one.
6:34 pm
smooth_pappa
i did
6:37 pm
OrangeSlice
Maybe not. Just found a quad-xwing to solve two cells, might be the key.
6:38 pm
OrangeSlice
It broke one of the intersections.
6:38 pm
night_walker_52
I'm at 22 numbers
6:38 pm
smooth_pappa
well done! i need to brush up on those strategies
6:41 pm
OrangeSlice
hmm, nope, I'm going to have to green this one.
6:41 pm
smooth_pappa
hey andy
6:41 pm
Andy
I have 16 filled in (not counting the originals)
6:41 pm
Andy
Still working May 4.
6:42 pm
night_walker_52
Who was your supper Andy?
6:42 pm
night_walker_52
Who was your supper Andy?
6:42 pm
night_walker_52
How :)
6:42 pm
Andy
Good. My son who insisited he hates ham liked it :)
6:42 pm
night_walker_52
I laugh at myself
6:42 pm
Andy
I love the "one bite rule"
6:43 pm
Andy
I keep thinking I'm finding x-wings and then not so much.
6:43 pm
night_walker_52
Me too. I have a really fussy daughter tho
6:45 pm
Andy
You have 22 filled in? Where on earth did you find the extra six? :)
6:45 pm
OrangeSlice
The '6' in left-center give you two xwings, one vertical along the center, and the elimination from that generates another along the top three boxes that solves two cells in R3.
6:46 pm
OrangeSlice
You get a 6 and a 1 out of it.
6:47 pm
Andy
Well, I have the 6 solved in the left center and I have no x-wings in the center.
6:48 pm
Andy
And the only two unsolved I have in R3 are a 1-6 naked pair
6:48 pm
night_walker_52
I did it
6:48 pm
OrangeSlice
You may need to fill in other cells before the combo becomes apparent.
6:48 pm
Andy
therein lies my problem :)
6:48 pm
OrangeSlice
You need to look both down and right from the '6' to get the first vertical xwing.
6:50 pm
OrangeSlice
I should diagram this actually, it's not too often you have an xwing that makes another xwing that solves some cells.
6:51 pm
Andy
No x-wings there. Not at present, anyway.
6:52 pm
Andy
R6C4 has 3 greens and only of them has a single match in that row and all of them have multiple matches in the column.
6:52 pm
night_walker_52
if your still at 22 numbers, try intersection removal again
6:52 pm
Andy
I'm at 16 numbers...
6:53 pm
night_walker_52
there in an xy chain in the bottom
6:53 pm
Andy
In mine, the only 3 open cells in the button have 3 possibilities in each.
6:53 pm
Andy
(the same three)
6:54 pm
night_walker_52
there was 4 numbers involved, going across the bottom then up on the right to the middle box something like that
6:55 pm
Andy
In my case, the possibilities are ABC in all thee bottom cells. Moving up the right edge, it's ABC ABC and then the top cell is AC.
6:56 pm
smooth_pappa
jeez... I hate it when I rush through an easy and find out I made a mistake.
6:58 pm
Andy
Gotta put the sprout to bed. Time for his next chapter in Prince Caspian. bbl.
6:58 pm
smooth_pappa
ooh good book!
6:59 pm
OrangeSlice
here we go
6:59 pm
OrangeSlice
http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/7862/crazy
xwingli8.png
7:00 pm
OrangeSlice
Blue denotes the 'root' cell that causes all the havoc, red is where there can not be a 6, green is where there could be. arrows are there for attempted clarity.
7:00 pm
OrangeSlice
We can see from this that the '6' in the left-center gives us the '6' in the top-right, and completes that row. lol
7:01 pm
smooth_pappa
lol jeez!
7:02 pm
smooth_pappa
here' my attempt at art. ;_
7:02 pm
smooth_pappa
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e309/smooth
_pappa/tempest.jpg
7:03 pm
OrangeSlice
very nice
7:03 pm
smooth_pappa
yeah, but it doesn't help me when I'm stck in a sudoku ;)
7:06 pm
smooth_pappa
i mean... thanks lol
7:08 pm
OrangeSlice
If you can understand that, you will start seeing xwings a lot more often.
7:10 pm
OrangeSlice
And also the possible relationships between cells that can't directly see each other.
7:11 pm
smooth_pappa
i do some of that in my head, but i don' necessarially know the names for those strategies
7:14 pm
OrangeSlice
A lot of people are like that actually.
7:15 pm
smooth_pappa
good! makes me feel a little better
7:15 pm
OrangeSlice
I was for quite a while, but when I got really into sudoku I started trying to learn more complicated techniques and the names for the stuff I already did.
7:16 pm
OrangeSlice
And now I'm one of those crazy sudoku people.
7:17 pm
smooth_pappa
lol I'm an addict, but i haven't gotten up to that level yet
7:18 pm
smooth_pappa
but after today, I should be out of the newbie rankings
7:26 pm
night_walker_52
finally the bus left, now I can play some more sudoku :)
7:26 pm
OrangeSlice
So let's see... May 4 took me three xwings and two unique rectangles. But, it is done.
7:27 pm
night_walker_52
Lucky you Smooth_pappa, I might be out of the newbies the day after, hopfully
7:29 pm
smooth_pappa
heh... well, I've tackled a LOT of archives today
7:29 pm
smooth_pappa
it's been a good relaxing day
7:33 pm
night_walker_52
this will be my 2nd archive for today, May 4th took me most of the day. :(
7:34 pm
night_walker_52
Do you guys watch curling?
7:34 pm
OrangeSlice
What's that?
7:35 pm
night_walker_52
Curling
7:35 pm
night_walker_52
you know, when you shoot rocks down a sheet of ice.
7:36 pm
night_walker_52
Glen Howard won the Gold
7:37 pm
OrangeSlice
I must be out of touch.
7:38 pm
night_walker_52
you have never heard of Curling?, Where do you live?
7:38 pm
OrangeSlice
Seattle, Washington.
7:39 pm
smooth_pappa
curling! where I grew up my high school went to curling nationals quite often
7:39 pm
smooth_pappa
or maybe it was state... I'm not sure there is a high school nationals. lol
7:39 pm
smooth_pappa
I obviously didn'tpay that much attention to it, but I did have a gym class in curling
7:39 pm
night_walker_52
that cool
7:40 pm
night_walker_52
bad spelling tonight or what
7:41 pm
smooth_pappa
me? yeah... I just got a new keyboard with small keys... I dumped coffee all over my other one. I'm still not used to this thing
7:42 pm
night_walker_52
No, hehe, I wasn't talking about you, I was talking about myself:)
7:42 pm
smooth_pappa
oh... lol
7:42 pm
smooth_pappa
nevermind
7:43 pm
night_walker_52
How about hockey, did anyone watch the game today?
7:43 pm
smooth_pappa
no i didn't... I am a huge hockey fan, though... who played?
7:44 pm
night_walker_52
Islanders & New Jersey
7:44 pm
smooth_pappa
ahhh... I'm a blues fan myself
7:45 pm
night_walker_52
I'm guessing since your asking you don't know who won then.
7:45 pm
night_walker_52
Are you talking about the blue jays?
7:45 pm
smooth_pappa
I don't... but... if I had toguess, I'd say jersey
7:46 pm
night_walker_52
lol
7:47 pm
smooth_pappa
is that right?
7:48 pm
night_walker_52
Be back later, I have to clean up the restaurant.
7:49 pm
smooth_pappa
welcome back
7:51 pm
Andy
working on orange slice's graphic and seeing if I can make sense of it
7:51 pm
smooth_pappa
yeah... didn't make a whole lot of sense to me... somewhat, though
7:52 pm
OrangeSlice
Sorry heh. Not sure if I can explain it any better.
7:53 pm
smooth_pappa
not your fault, slice... lol I think the newcastle I'm drinking is giving me a mental blocvk ;)
7:53 pm
Andy
Oh, love newcastle... the fact I have none is now making me sad
7:54 pm
smooth_pappa
Normally, I try to drink local brews, since wehave so many to choose from here in wisconsin... but I didn't have much time when I went out today, and that's what was available... not that Idon't love it, though... it's quality stuff!
7:57 pm
Andy
I lost some of my work... accidentally went to another page and came back and lost some numbers...trying to work back to where I was before I did that
8:03 pm
Andy
OK, I understand how you resolve the 16/16 in the top row. Got it
8:03 pm
Andy
Now,when i return from helping the mrs. with the laundry, I'll see what that broke open...
8:03 pm
OrangeSlice
I had to use one more xwing (with 1's) and also two unique rectangles, following that, to finish the puzzle.
8:14 pm
Andy
Need to reduce the number of 1 possibilities before I can find any x-wings on them...
8:23 pm
Andy
got it. Never did see the x-wings on 1s but I did fine a unique rectangle.
8:23 pm
Andy
Maybe there was an x-wing on 1 but I was able to cross-hatch them all away before I noticed it
8:24 pm
Andy
Finally finished it. That was the hardest one I've seen here yet. Strangely enough
8:25 pm
Andy
Time to stop this horrible obsession and play something far less addicting. Like warcraft.
8:43 pm
bloodaxe
woo-hoo sudokuuuuu
10:32 pm
OrangeSlice
Whew, made it through June 27.
10:39 pm
moedog
hi everyone