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Difficulty: Easy Tuesday, April 24, 2007

Not Completed Play This Puzzle

CHAT LOG for Tuesday, April 24, 2007

12:05 am
TeaNCrackers

go
12:10 am
TeaNCrackers

done
12:23 am
Krys10

start
12:28 am
WHB

Done
12:34 am
Krys10

done. broke my resolve, though, and used greens. 'night
12:44 am
h

go
1:04 am
h

done
1:15 am
Anne

too easy
1:45 am
Artimus

Very easy for an easy
5:09 am
Phil

start
5:26 am
Phil

done
5:35 am
Andy

go
5:57 am
Andy

done
7:01 am
smooth_pappa

go
7:08 am
smooth_pappa

done no green
7:13 am
drwho

Success, the autofill bookmark I described yesterday works!
7:41 am
drwho

Difficulty score 24.
7:54 am
franebrown

done - no greens - and reached "elite"
7:55 am
Moozey

WTG franebrown
7:56 am
franebrown

sorry, but what is wtg? i have a lot to learn in addition to sudoku.........
7:57 am
Moozey

Way To Go - not sudoku related just a congrats
7:57 am
Moozey

;o)
7:58 am
franebrown

thanx sooooooooo much Moozey
8:01 am
Moozey

you are welcome honey and well done for making it to Elite status
8:23 am
ypsigirl

done ;)
9:49 am
Stromile

.
11:16 am
RodeoRogue

GO
11:45 am
gingerstew

easy! c'mon done it in like 2mins lol no greens!
1:00 pm
chrissie2006

I must be missing something redicuously obviouse, because I'm struggling a bit. Im going to kick myself when I see it!
1:27 pm
gingerstew

do you need a little help?
1:28 pm
gingerstew

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1:30 pm
chrissie2006

I don't need help. Thank you. I finished about 20 minutes ago.
1:31 pm
gingerstew

oh well done lol...i am doing my5th puzle today ha!
2:03 pm
tonyfro

gingerstew - are you still around?
2:17 pm
helenkeller

go
2:31 pm
helenkeller

done
3:49 pm
Andy

I'm in a meeting. I'm a bad boy.
3:56 pm
Leigh

you're not the only one, Andy, we're in class
3:56 pm
Leigh

although technically it hasn't started yet
3:57 pm
Andy

meeting's over but my puzzle isn't :(
3:57 pm
Andy

ciao
3:58 pm
Strider_45

yay! classQ
4:01 pm
Leigh

Q?
4:01 pm
Strider_45

typo
4:02 pm
Leigh

no, the correct response was "your mom's a Q!"
4:03 pm
Leigh

i also would have expected "I'll Q your mom!" or "I Qed your mom last night!"
4:09 pm
Leigh

go look at the rant someone just posted in the babble log, it hurts the brain
4:13 pm
snppngtrtle

Wow neat
4:14 pm
RodeoRogue

ouch. that rant did hurt. i think i like the quiet here
4:15 pm
Strider_45

it cut off at the bottom before I could finish it but there were a lot more number than I remember English having
4:15 pm
Leigh

sounds like she's probably in junior high or high school.
4:15 pm
Leigh

rough time of life for anyone
4:15 pm
Leigh

yeah
4:15 pm
Leigh

apparently that's how the kids these days type <g>.
4:15 pm
Leigh

lol. speaking of these days, chickeybaby...
4:16 pm
snppngtrtle

The other day there was this girl asking everyone how old they were.
4:17 pm
snppngtrtle

When she found out that most of the babble crowd was older, she went off into this hilarious rant about how we were all old and nobody understands her.
4:17 pm
snppngtrtle

It was awesome
4:17 pm
Leigh

lol
4:17 pm
Leigh

did she say how old she was?
4:17 pm
snppngtrtle

"I'm going 2 go now cuz u dont understand me"
4:17 pm
snppngtrtle

"I hate u all"
4:17 pm
Leigh

lol
4:17 pm
snppngtrtle

And just went on an on like that
4:18 pm
Leigh

damn straight we don't, learn to type in english.
4:18 pm
snppngtrtle

13 I think
4:18 pm
Leigh

hahahahaha
4:18 pm
snppngtrtle

Yeah, that's what most of the babblers were telling her
4:20 pm
Zugzug7

go
4:22 pm
Leigh

hehe, zugzug. I like your name.
4:22 pm
Strider_45

Daboo?
4:24 pm
Zugzug7

done
4:25 pm
Zugzug7

thanks Leigh. Contrary to popular belief it comes from Warcraft not the Cave Man movie. I believe in Orc it means Yes or Ok but I could be wrong.
4:26 pm
Leigh

i know it from warcraft
4:27 pm
Leigh

but only indirectly, as WoW is the only one of the games I've played
4:27 pm
Strider_45

wow leigh, thats a huge gap in your education, I'll need to make you play warcraft II
4:28 pm
Zugzug7

My wife hates it but I've been playing for nearly two years now. It's the most addictive game I've ever played but I love it.
4:29 pm
Leigh

lol
4:30 pm
Leigh

i enjoy it as mindless fun, I get bored after a couple hours usually though. What server are you on?
4:30 pm
Leigh

also, my fiance and I both play, you should get the wife hooked so she won't get mad about it any more <g>
4:32 pm
Zugzug7

Khadgar. All my toons start with Toe; Toejammer (main), Toekal, Toetruck, etc. With so many alts I couldn't tell who was who so I started using Toe at the beginning of my names. Everyone just calls me Toe.
4:33 pm
Leigh

Yeah, I use a similar naming convention
4:33 pm
Leigh

All my alts are Leika(first 2 letters of class name)
4:33 pm
Leigh

Leikawa = warrior, Leikama = mage, etc
4:34 pm
Zugzug7

I've often thought about trying to get her in to it but she' says she's too computer illiterate. To push a mouse button and a few keys?
4:34 pm
Strider_45

I just name my alts whatever... guess I"m not OCD enough :)
4:34 pm
Leigh

especially with you there in person helping her
4:34 pm
Leigh

well, you also don't have nearly as sever a case of altitis as I do <g>
4:35 pm
Zugzug7

but we'd probably have to get a new account because I can easily do four to six hours without a problem.
4:35 pm
Leigh

lol
4:35 pm
Leigh

lol
4:35 pm
Leigh

that's one of the reasons we share an account, so neither of us ends up playing TOO much.
4:35 pm
snppngtrtle

nerd
4:36 pm
snppngtrtle

*nerds
4:36 pm
Leigh

:-P
4:36 pm
Leigh

lol
4:36 pm
Zugzug7

lol.. yeah. I've been called worse.
4:36 pm
snppngtrtle

hehe
4:37 pm
snppngtrtle

I'm a nerd too, but I have to give the WoW'ers some crap.
4:37 pm
Strider_45

your like 3 months of peer pressure away from starting a character
4:37 pm
snppngtrtle

no way!
4:37 pm
snppngtrtle

I like my life!
4:38 pm
Leigh

heh, you could come over to my place and play with us
4:38 pm
snppngtrtle

I mean, I won't have any time to play Babble!
4:38 pm
Leigh

wouldn't be that different from how we spend our evenings now
4:38 pm
Leigh

you'd just be playing WoW instead of babble/sudoku
4:38 pm
Leigh

hehehe
4:39 pm
Leigh

there's always Torts
4:39 pm
snppngtrtle

Meh, I rather like being a word nerd.
4:41 pm
Leigh

no reason you can't be multiple kinds of nerd at once. I'm living proof of that.
4:41 pm
Leigh

check this out:
4:41 pm
Leigh

http://www.flickr.com/photos/fremsley/1310049
05/
4:43 pm
snppngtrtle

hmmm page not found
4:43 pm
snppngtrtle

nevermind
4:43 pm
snppngtrtle

Neat!!!
4:46 pm
Gr8-H8

So Marianne Jorgenson is your pseudonym, Leigh?
4:47 pm
Gr8-H8

*Jorgensen
4:47 pm
snppngtrtle

We call her MaJo
4:47 pm
Leigh

lol
4:47 pm
Leigh

i wish i made that
4:47 pm
Leigh

lol
4:48 pm
Gr8-H8

For your tank?
4:48 pm
Leigh

yeah, my tank is always getting cold :-(
4:49 pm
snppngtrtle

Awwwww poor tank
4:49 pm
snppngtrtle

Funny thing is, I think I remember someone in the online knitting community asking people to send in their knitted pink squares for peace.
4:50 pm
snppngtrtle

I thought they'd go to make blankets, not a tank cozy.
4:50 pm
Leigh

yeah, if you read the info under the pic, that's what i said she did
4:50 pm
Leigh

hehe
4:50 pm
snppngtrtle

If I sent one in, I think I'd be kinda pissed.
4:50 pm
Leigh

why?
4:52 pm
Gr8-H8

Because tanks don't need blankets as much as people do....
4:52 pm
Gr8-H8

But giving people blankets isn't art.
4:52 pm
snppngtrtle

Exactly
4:52 pm
snppngtrtle

True
4:53 pm
snppngtrtle

She totally should have knitted it herself
4:53 pm
snppngtrtle

It wouldn't take THAT long!
4:54 pm
Leigh

i think it has more force as a statement as a product of the community
4:54 pm
Leigh

rather than of just one person.
4:55 pm
snppngtrtle

True, and if she wants to say to the volunteers that their knitting is going to be used in an art piece, that's fine.
4:55 pm
snppngtrtle

But I seem to remember is just being "knit for peace" or something.
4:56 pm
Leigh

<nod> yeah, any time you're asking someone to contribute to a statement like that they need to know what they're contributing to.
4:56 pm
snppngtrtle

Yeah, not to mention all the copywrite issues involved as well.
4:57 pm
snppngtrtle

er... or is it copyright?
4:57 pm
Gr8-H8

The latter. What's an example?
4:57 pm
snppngtrtle

Sweet.
4:58 pm
snppngtrtle

Well, if somebody used a stitch pattern on their square, that work is copyrighted.
4:59 pm
snppngtrtle

Giving it away is usually just fine, depending on the type of license the copyright holder grants.
4:59 pm
snppngtrtle

Using it in an art piece, however, may be infringement. Although, I'm not entirely sure on that.
5:00 pm
Gr8-H8

Is what you're saying that the knitter used a destinctive pattern recognizable as theirs?
5:03 pm
RodeoRogue

Technically it is possible Gr8. Kinda like a fashion designer and their clothes.
5:03 pm
snppngtrtle

Well, more likely they copied a copyrighted pattern out of a book or something.
5:05 pm
snppngtrtle

If you look at copyright disclaimers on knitting blogs and such, most grant permission to use the pattern for personal use, or to make and item as a gift.
5:05 pm
snppngtrtle

But an art piece is an entirely different cup of tea.
5:05 pm
snppngtrtle

*make the item
5:08 pm
snppngtrtle

And I'm not entirely sure what the rule is when you borrow elements of copyrighted designs and make them into an original whole, like the tank cozy.
5:08 pm
Gr8-H8

Derivative works are part of fair use. Generally.
5:08 pm
Gr8-H8

Derivative works are part of fair use. Generally.
5:08 pm
Gr8-H8

oops.
5:08 pm
snppngtrtle

Aha, I wasn't aware of that. Good to know.
5:09 pm
Leigh

one of us will have to take an IP class and ask about knitted squares.
5:09 pm
snppngtrtle

Totally
5:09 pm
Gr8-H8

I'm going to specialize in that, so I'll keep you posted. As soon as I become more knowledgeable.
5:09 pm
snppngtrtle

I'd really like to know more about it - mainly to cover my ass with my patterns and such.
5:10 pm
RodeoRogue

Would be interesting to know. Might have to ask my sis. She is a fashion designed and might know some of the ins and outs about that.
5:11 pm
Gr8-H8

As long as you're not making lots of money (or preventing whatever rightful owner from making lots of money), it's not likely to become an issue.
5:11 pm
snppngtrtle

Yeah, that's very true.
5:12 pm
snppngtrtle

I suppose that's why every crappy cover band on earth remains in existance
5:12 pm
RodeoRogue

But how does one define "lots of money"? I highly doubt knitting pattern sales can make a person rich
5:12 pm
RodeoRogue

LOL.
5:12 pm
snppngtrtle

Haha right!
5:13 pm
RodeoRogue

that is a good one trtle.
5:13 pm
snppngtrtle

I've made a whopping $78 this year.
5:13 pm
Gr8-H8

The interesting thing about bands is that they don't have to pay for performing a copyrighted work in a public place; the owner of the public place has to pay. Also, "lots of money" is defined as "the amount of money that makes it worth somebody's effort to sue."
5:15 pm
snppngtrtle

Huh, I didn't know that. I suppose it's the owner of the public place that is getting the greatest benefit from the performance.
5:15 pm
Gr8-H8

Exactly.
5:15 pm
RodeoRogue

so then how does kareoke(sp??) work? I know there are some times I should have been paid for the damage done to my eardrums.
5:16 pm
Leigh

lol
5:16 pm
Gr8-H8

Copyright is property, karaoke is a tort.
5:16 pm
snppngtrtle

hehe... well that's a tort, not an IP claim...
5:16 pm
RodeoRogue

aaahhhh. And here I thought it was some form of legal torture
5:16 pm
snppngtrtle

Argg law nerdiness coming out! Must stop!
5:16 pm
Leigh

assault - offensive contact with sound waves
5:17 pm
Leigh

hehehe
5:17 pm
Gr8-H8

Battery.
5:17 pm
snppngtrtle

False imprisonment?
5:17 pm
snppngtrtle

False imprisonment>
5:18 pm
Leigh

right, well, assault when they step up to the mic, battery when they actually sing
5:18 pm
Gr8-H8

Assault = anticipation that some tone-deaf idiot is going to do "I Would Do Anything For Love (But I Won't Do That)"
5:18 pm
Leigh

only if you're not allowed to leave the bar. perhaps b/c you're paralyzed w/ terror at the bad singing.
5:18 pm
snppngtrtle

nice
5:18 pm
snppngtrtle

Just what I was thinking, Leigh.
5:20 pm
UnikeTheHunter

Go.
5:20 pm
snppngtrtle

Battery = when same tone-deaf idiot later mangles "Total Eclypse of the Heart."
5:20 pm
Gr8-H8

That one takes two idiots.
5:20 pm
snppngtrtle

Not necessarily...
5:21 pm
RodeoRogue

or one really big idiot who tried to do both parts
5:21 pm
Leigh

well, you might be an idiot for not leaving the bar after the first song...
5:21 pm
Gr8-H8

Schitzophrenia as performance art?
5:21 pm
RodeoRogue

art???
5:21 pm
Gr8-H8

I used the term loosely. I smirked when I typed it.
5:23 pm
RodeoRogue

I hope so.
5:23 pm
snppngtrtle

I spent the evening at a Kareoke bar on Friday...
5:24 pm
snppngtrtle

I think someone did try to do "Total Eclypse of the Heart" solo.
5:24 pm
Leigh

Hey, when do you want me to take you out for your birthday?
5:24 pm
snppngtrtle

Katie said something about trivia tonight. You down?
5:24 pm
snppngtrtle

I'll settle for a ride there
5:24 pm
Gr8-H8

Take her to a karaoke bar and sing her "Total Eclipse of the Heart."
5:25 pm
snppngtrtle

Oh please, no! Not again!
5:25 pm
Strider_45

I'm sick and tired of all this abuse! Bonnie Tyler doesn't deserve it!!!
5:26 pm
RodeoRogue

It is a great song, when sung by Bonnie Tyler and not some tone deaf drunken prats
5:26 pm
Strider_45

*cough* *cough* sorry, lost it for a second there
5:26 pm
Strider_45

:)
5:26 pm
Leigh

ooo, trivia. one of the first things I did in portland was go to a strip trivia night downtown.
5:26 pm
RodeoRogue

strip trivia??
5:27 pm
Gr8-H8

Did you win, or did eveybody else ;)
5:27 pm
Strider_45

trivia sounds fun... I may have to skip studying for trivia
5:27 pm
Leigh

yup. there was a lot of naked in that place.
5:27 pm
Leigh

:-P
5:27 pm
Leigh

i was in the audience.
5:27 pm
snppngtrtle

Apparently it's happening at about 7-ish. I don't remember where, but I assume it's in NE. There will be no Bonnie Tyler.
5:28 pm
Leigh

sounds good. I'll talk to Katie after class about details.
5:28 pm
snppngtrtle

Sweet
5:28 pm
Strider_45

No Bonnie Tyler... will there at least be some Avril
5:28 pm
snppngtrtle

So much for the diet...
5:28 pm
snppngtrtle

NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!
5:28 pm
Leigh

<shudder>
5:29 pm
snppngtrtle

We must arrive early and disable the jukebox!
5:29 pm
Leigh

lol
5:30 pm
snppngtrtle

Gee, I'm sure gonna miss Sudoku class. We should set a day and time for summer sudoku.
5:30 pm
Leigh

sounds good to me.
5:30 pm
Leigh

especially if it also involves drinking lovely fruity drinks and enjoying the beautiful weather.
5:31 pm
snppngtrtle

Perfect
5:32 pm
snppngtrtle

Although, then we will be tempted to do summer things such as grilling and Ultimate Frisbee. We should really find some crappy office jobs and play there.
5:34 pm
Leigh

lol
5:34 pm
Leigh

grilling, drinking, and sudoku are all compatible.
5:35 pm
Strider_45

for some reason I just got really hungry for a grilled portabello mushroom cap burger
5:35 pm
snppngtrtle

Hmmmm... but isn't part of the fun of sudoku class that we are all trapped inside looking for something to do so we don't claw our eyes out from boredom during "widdershins?"
5:36 pm
Gr8-H8

And I got really thirsty for anything on Salvador Molly's happy hour menu.
5:36 pm
Leigh

true.
5:36 pm
Leigh

hehe
5:36 pm
snppngtrtle

Mmmmmm yum!
5:36 pm
snppngtrtle

Rum drinks!!!
5:36 pm
snppngtrtle

And cheesy poofs!
5:37 pm
Strider_45

you guys are a bad influence
5:37 pm
Gr8-H8

Ball o' Fire, Strider?
5:37 pm
snppngtrtle

Beer!
5:37 pm
Strider_45

mmmm pain
5:38 pm
snppngtrtle

delicious pain
5:39 pm
Gr8-H8

Mostly just pain.
5:39 pm
snppngtrtle

I'm so curious...
5:39 pm
Strider_45

its delicious for like 3 seconds... then all other sensation is blotted out by pain
5:40 pm
Gr8-H8

It's quite amazing.
5:40 pm
snppngtrtle

Mmmmm chemical burns....
5:40 pm
Strider_45

The next time I eat one of those I'm going to have an entire pitcher of beer ready to diffuse the pain
5:40 pm
Strider_45

er... de-fuse
5:41 pm
Gr8-H8

I'm going to coat my mouth with candle wax before having another one.
5:42 pm
snppngtrtle

Ouch
5:42 pm
snppngtrtle

Wouldn't that almost be worse?
5:42 pm
Gr8-H8

Yes, but possibly less ouch.
5:42 pm
snppngtrtle

I see
5:44 pm
Strider_45

no cheating!
5:44 pm
plurple

cheating always
5:44 pm
Leigh

dude, sergio totally told me to do the wrong reading for today.
5:44 pm
Leigh

damn him. Also, haha, Strider just got called on.
5:45 pm
snppngtrtle

Sorry, strider
5:45 pm
snppngtrtle

But it's not my fault you didn't pick up your book this morning!
5:45 pm
Gr8-H8

That Sergio! Such a kidder!
5:45 pm
Leigh

i don't think he's asking about today's reading anyhow.
5:45 pm
snppngtrtle

doesn't seem like it
5:46 pm
Leigh

well, i guess it sorta is. trespass to chattels wasn't covered, though.
5:46 pm
snppngtrtle

Are we actually caught up on the syllabus now?
5:46 pm
Gr8-H8

This month, I've been one reading ahead, so I have know idea what's going on. Or went on.
5:46 pm
Leigh

no, i don't think we are.
5:49 pm
plurple

have you guys ever heard of AIM?
5:49 pm
Leigh

AOL instand messanger?
5:49 pm
plurple

yes, they have chatrooms on there.
5:49 pm
Leigh

instant, that is...
5:50 pm
Gr8-H8

And your point is....?
5:50 pm
plurple

ha
5:50 pm
snppngtrtle

There's no sudoku though
5:50 pm
Leigh

there might be now, they've started putting all kinds of crap on there.
5:51 pm
Leigh

i stopped using it when they started putting in advertisements with sound.
5:51 pm
snppngtrtle

ewww
5:51 pm
Leigh

indeed.
5:51 pm
Leigh

trillian is the way to go.
5:51 pm
Leigh

hehe, i think prof lansing almost just wrote "stoner" on accident
5:52 pm
Gr8-H8

"Accident."
5:52 pm
Strider_45

I think plurple may prefer that we not hi-jack this chat for our own purposes.
5:52 pm
Leigh

hehe
5:52 pm
snppngtrtle

Close, I think it's "storner"
5:53 pm
Leigh

eh, what's a chat log for if not chatting?
5:53 pm
Gr8-H8

Do we have a duty not to? Is hijacking a chat room trespassing?
5:53 pm
Leigh

lol
5:53 pm
Gr8-H8

Is it even discorteous?
5:54 pm
snppngtrtle

I definately see his point as I think it's really annoying when people do that in the Babble chat, but this chat log is hardly even used except by us and a few others calling out stats.
5:54 pm
Leigh

i think we're invitees.
5:54 pm
snppngtrtle

I believe we have a licence to be here.
5:54 pm
Gr8-H8

Let's talk about x-wings, then.
5:54 pm
Strider_45

I'm sure there is an exhaustive terms of service adhesion contract we all agreed to... maybe we should read that
5:54 pm
Leigh

heh, i still don't really know (or care) what those are.
5:54 pm
snppngtrtle

Go x-wings!
5:54 pm
Leigh

but anyhow. Class is over now, so if anyone has a problem with it, they should be fine <g>.
5:55 pm
Strider_45

uh... x-wings are starfighters
5:55 pm
Gr8-H8

The Incom T-65E is definitely the ultimate variant of variable-wing starfighters.
5:55 pm
Gr8-H8

That's what I thought, Strider.
5:55 pm
snppngtrtle

bye all
5:55 pm
Strider_45

ouch Gr8-H8 you're taxing my starfighter knowledge here
5:55 pm
Strider_45

ouch Gr8-H8 you're taxing my starfighter knowledge here
8:14 pm
peternl

hi all
8:15 pm
mimisan

hi
8:17 pm
peternl

well, that was easy...
8:18 pm
peternl

on to yesterdays
8:21 pm
peternl

also very easy