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Difficulty: Expert Saturday, June 16, 2007

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CHAT LOG for Saturday, June 16, 2007

12:24 am
moedog

seems to be going well so far...
12:24 am
moedog

whoops!
12:25 am
moedog

strike that - gotta start over!!
12:28 am
moedog

dangit!!
12:28 am
moedog

okay, gonna tackle this one after a night's sleep
12:49 am
WHB

Done
4:14 am
MrOoijer

done, using colouring techniques
4:15 am
MrOoijer

done the whole archive but my rating is one point below the maximum, seems a bug
5:46 am
eyeman

one green and a couple of reds did the trick. Good one, Dr. God!
5:51 am
spreadeagle

eyeman, I must be going blind. 7 filled and not seeing anything else.
5:55 am
spreadeagle

I'll be back after I wake up with some OJ and a bowl of cereal.
6:04 am
Andy

ooohboy
6:07 am
Andy

well, I filled in 2 so far...
6:18 am
hokie carla

I've got 1.
6:35 am
hokie carla

alright, done - with greens & a lucky 1st plug in a trial & error. I had some greens marked that shouldn't have been, so I may have not had to resort to the trying numbers.
6:46 am
Andy

done. needed greens
6:50 am
Andy

now for one from 1 year ago today...
6:50 am
Andy

a medium. whee
7:09 am
Andy

and that's done. now on with my day. have a good one everyone!
8:34 am
jawilke

2 experts in a week ... you rock ironsudoku gods
8:34 am
jawilke

go
8:49 am
drwho

Difficulty score 78. I think Mr. Ooijer is right, the simple coloring trick breaks it open. No guessing for me this time.
8:52 am
drwho

There were several missing digit scans that I had missed and only saw after going green.
8:53 am
jawilke

filled in all the greands and have only solved 7 boxes...
8:53 am
jawilke

greens
8:56 am
drwho

There is a hidden pair (or naked triple) that helps in the early going.
8:56 am
jawilke

in the second box down from the left?
8:57 am
drwho

Yup.
8:57 am
jawilke

didn't help
8:57 am
jawilke

haven't had this much trouble in don't know how long
8:57 am
jawilke

maybe I made a mistake... going to restart
9:01 am
drwho

I think once you have that hidden pair you should be able to discover the simple coloring technique that breaks things open.
9:01 am
jawilke

yep, made a mistake on the top row. Much easier going now
9:02 am
jawilke

by coloring technique, are you talking a probability heuristic?
9:03 am
drwho

No. It's an analytical method described at the scanraid site and others.
9:06 am
jawilke

neat site.
9:07 am
drwho

The solver can really teach you the tricks, if you are patient.
9:07 am
jawilke

shew, done
9:07 am
jawilke

ty doc, see you later
9:08 am
drwho

So easy, even a caveman can do it.
9:08 am
drwho

Sorry, couldn't resist.
9:49 am
spreadeagle

Done, but I don't know how. Frustrating.
9:51 am
UnikeTheHunter

I tried reading about the coloring. My old brain was not up to it right now. I could understand the first few examples, but I doubt if I'd ever be able to do it on my own.
9:51 am
smooth_pappa

go
9:53 am
smooth_pappa

hmmm... proving to abe a toughie!
9:56 am
UnikeTheHunter

Y'know? Sometimes I wonder why I'm knocking my head against a wall.
9:57 am
smooth_pappa

ok... going green.
9:57 am
smooth_pappa

I'm close to it, hunter
9:59 am
smooth_pappa

ok getting much easier with greens
9:59 am
UnikeTheHunter

Aha! Found a loner early on.
10:01 am
smooth_pappa

and done!
10:01 am
smooth_pappa

most definitely used greens
10:01 am
UnikeTheHunter

Wow!
10:05 am
UnikeTheHunter

6. Going green.
10:19 am
UnikeTheHunter

Stopping for now. Greens gave me no new cells. Only a few candidates removed. Depressed.
10:34 am
lawfully

done... you need to look hard
11:00 am
brittlefish.com

howdy. go.
12:04 pm
kersti

so how do we get a samurai version?
12:04 pm
dorens

that was an expert, i'll agree
12:14 pm
brittlefish.com

done with G+r autofill, then double-checking things at scanraid... x-cycles? that's a new one on me. (makes me think of Tron.) thank you, scanraid guy.
3:41 pm
spellacked

Either I did something stupidly lucky, or this wasn't an expert. There was no long chain requiring red-experiments -- everything flowed logically.
3:42 pm
spellacked

I did use the autofill Javascript after I accidentally cleared the screen (I'm too lazy to repeat myself) and it all worked pretty easily.
4:07 pm
helenkeller

go
4:46 pm
helenkeller

done
5:07 pm
hexx54

go
5:32 pm
hurshy

i'm sanding it and then i'll put on a nice coat of polyurethane
8:02 pm
herinfernallady

go
8:09 pm
goldies.

what does the chatter box do?
8:09 pm
hurshy

it's the same as in babble, goldies.
8:10 pm
goldies.

oh can i get some clues?
8:10 pm
hurshy

goldies, you might not want to start with an expert. have you done sudoku before?
8:10 pm
goldies.

yes i am really good at it
8:11 pm
hurshy

then why do you want some clues?
8:11 pm
goldies.

because this is hard
8:11 pm
btwrt

hey hursh!
8:11 pm
hurshy

buffy dear!!!!
8:11 pm
btwrt

yayy! reunions are grand
8:12 pm
hurshy

i'm on AIM...
8:12 pm
btwrt

hold up a sec...
8:12 pm
hurshy

yes, they are :)
8:12 pm
btwrt

signing in ...
8:12 pm
goldies.

how do you get clues?
8:13 pm
btwrt

someone gives you one - unless somebody did earlier in the day, you can always scroll down to check. i can't help you unfortunately, i'm doing archived easies
8:13 pm
herinfernallady

oh ffs dont encorge the troll, i ran away from babble to avoid him
8:13 pm
goldies.

what do you think im a troll? what did i do?
8:15 pm
goldies.

alright back to babble bye
8:16 pm
herinfernallady

Btwrt i love your icon
8:16 pm
btwrt

thanks herinfern....etc. ;) wow long handle! or mebbe i'm just being all full of myself for having a short one
8:18 pm
herinfernallady

Herrin will do (or herin)
8:18 pm
herinfernallady

dang this is hard
8:18 pm
twstedangel

this is definitely one of the more harder puzzles that I've seen here
8:19 pm
herinfernallady

I just found one laying down upside down
8:19 pm
twstedangel

maybe I should look at it from a different perspective :-P
8:20 pm
herinfernallady

Maybe, i usually lay down to do this - i have a laptop
8:20 pm
twstedangel

just 5 in the first sweep...
8:20 pm
herinfernallady

epps, i got 1
8:21 pm
herinfernallady

2
8:21 pm
twstedangel

so do i herin
8:21 pm
herinfernallady

Laptop is great for laying down and doing this
8:21 pm
twstedangel

they have their advantages and disadvantages but all in all I like em'
8:22 pm
twstedangel

so is wireless keyboard :-P (on pc)
8:22 pm
twstedangel

so is wireless keyboard :-P (on pc)
8:22 pm
herinfernallady

Advantage portable disadvantages can be slow and hard to upgrad
8:22 pm
twstedangel

i hate when that happens
8:22 pm
twstedangel

yes and the number pad...
8:22 pm
herinfernallady

hic cups
8:23 pm
twstedangel

where are you from Herin?
8:23 pm
herinfernallady

Not phased about no number pad, one do im going to stair at a mouse and have to work out how do use it as i dont use it on laptop. I am in Australia, melbourn
8:25 pm
twstedangel

the non-mousepad situation takes a little getting used to but once you have the hang of it...
8:26 pm
herinfernallady

i have the hang of it i never really liked the mouse
8:27 pm
herinfernallady

Hurshy you hidding?
8:28 pm
hurshy

i'm busy doing other things...
8:28 pm
herinfernallady

k hello :)
8:30 pm
twstedangel

ok, not so difficult... after you start it.
8:30 pm
twstedangel

i guess I got lucky
8:30 pm
herinfernallady

Thanks still chugging along
8:31 pm
twstedangel

gl. I'm going to get off here. It was good talking to you.
8:32 pm
herinfernallady

thanks
8:33 pm
twstedangel

good night all
8:33 pm
herinfernallady

night and thanks