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Difficulty: Expert Tuesday, June 19, 2007

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CHAT LOG for Tuesday, June 19, 2007

12:07 am
lawfully

go
12:35 am
himuran

done
12:39 am
lawfully

done
12:49 am
WHB

Done
3:52 am
spreadeagle

This doesn't look too bad.....
4:00 am
spreadeagle

20 filled fast. Now slowing down.
4:28 am
spreadeagle

Done with a guess. I couldn't find a wing or anything else. Maybe I'm just not awake enough yet.
5:39 am
dalebo

My FIRST EXPERT!!!
6:25 am
Phil

done with 1 educated guess
6:29 am
smooth_pappa

go
6:36 am
smooth_pappa

starting to slow down
6:42 am
smooth_pappa

done!
6:42 am
smooth_pappa

used greens in the middle
8:45 am
UnikeTheHunter

So many experts lately!
9:13 am
Minski

Done! Had to use greenies and a few guesses.
9:20 am
UnikeTheHunter

20. Going green.
9:40 am
UnikeTheHunter

Ready to make a productive looking guess. I'm almost sure it will work. Fingers crossed.
9:44 am
UnikeTheHunter

It did! Got it, greens and one pretty confident guess. Better than a shot in the dark.
10:20 am
themathkid

What's a "green"?
10:22 am
themathkid

Oh. Pencilmark. Gotcha.
10:48 am
spazzy

damn.
10:56 am
RodeoRogue

go
12:16 pm
PuttPutt

Have a ?. I have 4 boxes to solve in 1 line,
12:16 pm
PuttPutt

458... 28...45..42
12:17 pm
PuttPutt

why does the 45 not become the hidden pair ?
12:18 pm
BeppyCute

think it does
12:19 pm
PuttPutt

no it does not, the 8 is out of box 458
12:19 pm
BeppyCute

u can remove that by default
12:23 pm
BeppyCute

wow... once i plugged the greens it went fast!
12:24 pm
PuttPutt

well it has solved with the 8 where I said
1:00 pm
OrangeSlice

This lack of useful bivalue cells disturbs me.
1:19 pm
OrangeSlice

I do believe I've just found a death blossom.
1:36 pm
PuttPutt

Heres another instance I have 4 boxes 75...79...159...15 surely the 15 is a hidden pair but it dint work out
1:36 pm
OrangeSlice

You can't arbitrarily pull values to make pairs.
1:37 pm
parsec

Doesn't the 5 in the 75 rule that out?
1:37 pm
parsec

If it was 73...79...159...15, then yes. Because the one and five are unique to those two boxes.
1:38 pm
PuttPutt

ok maybe Im lost
1:39 pm
moedog

ugh. I don't like this one, not at all!
1:39 pm
moedog

gonna have to start over already :-/
1:40 pm
selenav

arrgh ...4 squares left and i find out theres a mistake somewhere...
1:41 pm
moedog

oooooohh... that's gonna leave a mark
1:42 pm
selenav

that was way harsh...lol
1:48 pm
moedog

aaaaw maaaaan!!!
1:48 pm
moedog

okay, maybe this will be a good one to look at over a beer later tonight!!
2:05 pm
OrangeSlice

Reductions based on a weak-ended alternating inference chain led to a couple xy-wings, one xyz-wing, and some general scanning solved it after that.
2:05 pm
OrangeSlice

Puzzle solved :)
2:06 pm
raggedyandy3478

you mind putting that into lamens terms?
2:08 pm
OrangeSlice

Scanraid has nice explanations of everything I just mentioned.
2:08 pm
OrangeSlice

http://www.scanraid.com/AdvanStrategies.htm
2:09 pm
raggedyandy3478

aighty, thanks
2:10 pm
OrangeSlice

I started my chain with the lower cell of the 3/4 pair in the center box.
3:11 pm
kittybat

I can't remember having this much trouble with a puzzle in a loooong time. Started over twice now, keep making the same mistake--I think.
3:14 pm
OrangeSlice

I used some pretty advanced stuff to solve it; would be nice if someone finds an easier route.
3:17 pm
kittybat

The folks from earlier today didn't seem to have so much trouble with it. Sounds like they were working on a different puzzle than I've got here... ; )
3:18 pm
OrangeSlice

Probably Saturday's (I'm doing it now).
3:29 pm
kittybat

Ah, I think I found my mistake. Maybe it will go better now...
3:32 pm
Zugzug7

go. oh no. another expert.
3:32 pm
kittybat

That was almost insanely easy once I saw my error.
4:00 pm
helenkeller

go
4:19 pm
Zugzug7

not sure what I'm doing wrong. It seems too simple but I can't even guess at this point.
4:26 pm
Zugzug7

done. I don't believe it. I put in a random number and it all fell into place.
4:28 pm
helenkeller

wtg zug - i'm still working it
4:37 pm
helenkeller

done
6:39 pm
hurshy

i love a good watermelon.
6:39 pm
hurshy

and i miss scribble, who used to set fruit salad traps for me.
6:57 pm
Krys10

fruit salad traps?
7:06 pm
Andy

Public Service Announcement: When making pasta salad, remember to buy the pasta.
7:06 pm
Andy

I can has expert?
10:29 pm
jack295

sup
11:47 pm
mommanine

the ceiling :)