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Difficulty: Hard Tuesday, June 26, 2007

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CHAT LOG for Tuesday, June 26, 2007

12:07 am
PuttPutt

done real easy
12:42 am
himuran

done
12:49 am
WHB

Done
12:56 am
hokie carla

yep, easier than the last two mediums.
6:38 am
smooth_pappa

go
6:48 am
smooth_pappa

done
7:23 am
jawilke

go
7:32 am
jawilke

done
8:04 am
sprite

indeed easier than last mediums
8:14 am
UnikeTheHunter

Go.
8:38 am
spellacked

go
8:52 am
UnikeTheHunter

Done, no greens. Only my second Hard done w/o greens.
8:56 am
OrangeSlice

Not terrible without them.
8:59 am
UnikeTheHunter

I still haven't done last Friday's. Sunday I made a guess. It was going so well I saved it as a new checkpoint when my wife made me quit. Now I find it was a bad guess and I've forgotten what my initial guess was. I'll have to start again.
9:43 am
drwho

Difficulty score 30. Like most hards here, naked and hidden pairs are the key.
9:52 am
drwho

The last 4 days there have been 2 hards and 2 mediums. By my scoring method, the mediums have been harder than the hards (38 and 32 vs. 29 and 30).
9:56 am
Sharidan

Sorry to ask a dumb question, but how do you score each puzzle with a difficulty rating?
9:57 am
drwho

I wrote a program to solve and score the puzzles. For more details see:

http://www.pauls-pc-repair.com/sudoku/
9:58 am
Sharidan

thank you Dr.
10:32 am
Krys10

ooh, i dislike hidden pairs
10:36 am
Krys10

finished - didn't have to use hidden pairs :)
10:56 am
Python Taz

moron
10:57 am
RodeoRogue

go
11:00 am
Python Taz

what your 2 little grey matter cells can't take the pressure?
11:05 am
Python Taz

violence thourgh a computer, how bright!!
11:08 am
brianarn

Hey now, let's all be friends. :D We're all here due to love of Sudoku and such. :)
11:10 am
Python Taz

matt grow up
11:10 am
RodeoRogue

Going green.
11:10 am
brianarn

I've gone to greens as well - I don't feel too bad though. :D It's moving along at a good rate so far.
11:10 am
RodeoRogue

Python and Matthew, both of you need to grow up. This is a site for sudoku, not immature chatter.
11:11 am
RodeoRogue

But it was going so well it kinda hurts to go green
11:12 am
brianarn

Using greens doesn't bother me so much. I mean, I still have to work out the logic. It's not like I'm guessing. It just helps me see a little more clearly. :)
11:12 am
brianarn

and done - I'm not sure what, but something really opened it up. Not too bad for a hard.
11:13 am
RodeoRogue

I like to think the less greens I use the more I have learned. That and there is something zen like in the whole puzzle being black, white, and grey.
11:14 am
brianarn

but using greens and reds can give things a Christmas-y feel! :D
11:14 am
RodeoRogue

LOL! It is too hot in Arizona to be even able to think about Christmas. But at least this one finally opened up.
11:14 am
brianarn

Back to the expert from last Friday - didn't have time to finish that. Something has me stuck, and it's so green'd and red'd that you could use it as a Christmas decoration (I use reds sometimes to help me see things like pairs and stuff)
11:15 am
RodeoRogue

Last Friday still gives me a headache. I am going on vacation next week and I am thinking about trying to figure it out over that time. More time to do nothing.
11:16 am
RodeoRogue

off to archives.
11:18 am
hrhswing

i completely agree
11:18 am
tresbizzare

tasty?
11:53 am
Andy

interesting chatlog today...
11:55 am
Andy

So, you've spent at least the last hour doing this? really?
11:56 am
Andy

Well, that's... uh... dedication.
11:58 am
UDbmas

a very charitable way to put it
11:58 am
Andy

Oh, I don't like to judge. When people reach this point, all you can really do is feel sorry for them.
11:59 am
UDbmas

and keep chatting until if fits on the screen again
11:59 am
Andy

lol
11:59 am
Andy

Well, I just checked in to see if I could jog any more numbers loose... got to get back to work. Later!
12:00 pm
UDbmas

have fun & hb
1:19 pm
Dr_God

You can reload the page to get rid of the troll posts.
1:20 pm
UDbmas

Thank you, God!
1:21 pm
andy99

of all the places to fill with troll posts, this seems, well seemed, pretty unlikely
1:22 pm
UDbmas

must have been a lonely apprentice troll?
1:24 pm
andy99

but for it's accuracy, I'd have guessed it was someone head-butting the keyboard
1:24 pm
UDbmas

lol
1:26 pm
RodeoRogue

UDbmas, cute cat. I recently lost mine, and her favorite thing to do was run across my keyboard when I was typing.
1:31 pm
UDbmas

So sorry, Rodeo. We lost ours and finally after a year, we knew we needed a new one.
1:32 pm
UDbmas

Hodge (the cat) was a kitten when I took that last year. He now weighs 12 lbs and is very long. But he is still a gorgeous brown mackerel.
1:32 pm
RodeoRogue

Yep, there sure are easy to miss. I have already been looking at the local shelter online and checking older ones out.
1:33 pm
UDbmas

The shelter was great. Neutering is free there.
1:33 pm
andy99

I can watch the neighbours' cats out of this window
1:33 pm
RodeoRogue

I love the shelter. There is just too many to choose from. So many lovely animals in need of a good home
1:34 pm
UDbmas

Be careful, andy. If cats know you are watching, they will do something to really mess with your mind.
1:36 pm
andy99

there's a big furry white one over the road ..... the front garden has quite a dense hedge
1:36 pm
RodeoRogue

I have to agree with that. Cats love to play mental games with humans. And sadly, they usually win
1:37 pm
andy99

so one of the others, a black one, or a grey and black tabby, comes along, peers into the hedge sometimes ....
1:37 pm
UDbmas

how true...they really love the "look over the human's shoulder" game...I still fall for it and look
1:37 pm
andy99

and suddenly the white one jumps out
1:38 pm
UDbmas

ah...hedge-fun(d) cats
1:38 pm
andy99

and the first one turns away, pretenting to be innocent and unconcerned
1:38 pm
RodeoRogue

My favorite is the "I caught something and you don't know what it is" game. And usually all it is is a piece of dust. If that.
1:39 pm
UDbmas

and don't forget "look, I caught a small furry mammal and ate the head...can you guess what it was?"
1:40 pm
UDbmas

cats always pretend to be innocent...they seem to be like children in that
1:40 pm
RodeoRogue

eeewww! I hate that game. The worst was when she would leave the carcass in the middle of the room like it was some sort of offering or a trophy.
1:40 pm
UDbmas

it was a trophy for the beloved master...sometimes you wonder about a cat's concept of love
1:42 pm
RodeoRogue

The best part is how she always expected to be rewarded for her brilliant display of prowess.
1:43 pm
UDbmas

yes, rather like a child looking very proud the first time he or she uses an "adult" word...they look so innocent and proud (of course you try to explain how that isn't a nice word while trying NOT to laugh)
1:44 pm
RodeoRogue

People ask why I don't have kids, and I tell them I have animals. I don't need kids. They are just like them, only better.
1:45 pm
UDbmas

Except kids call home when they are away...sometimes...um, rarely...oh, nevermind! LOL
1:46 pm
andy99

I can hear a bird chirping alarm, so maybe there's a cat out there now
1:46 pm
RodeoRogue

LOL! Ah, the good old teenage years. Yeppers, that and diapers are two things I am glad I don't have. Although I could do without the hairballs.
1:46 pm
UDbmas

if it's a bluejay, the cats should watch out
1:47 pm
RodeoRogue

Finished with another one. Off to lunch soon. Thanks UDbmas for reminding me why I love my kitty.
1:47 pm
UDbmas

my kids are adults now, and I have 3 grandchildren...oh, and one grand-cat
1:48 pm
UDbmas

Have a good one, Rodeo. I hope you find a good feline friend soon.
1:48 pm
RodeoRogue

Sounds like a big family. You have a good one too!
1:48 pm
UDbmas

ty
1:50 pm
UDbmas

andy, you still here?
1:53 pm
andy99

just about, was listening to the tv in the other room
1:53 pm
UDbmas

lol
1:53 pm
andy99

well, trying to ...
1:54 pm
UDbmas

multi-tasking can be rough
1:54 pm
andy99

well, you know that men aren't supposed to be as good at that as women are
1:55 pm
UDbmas

that's okay, men have their uses too...lol
1:56 pm
andy99

hee hee
2:02 pm
UDbmas

well, must do some real work for a while, tc and have fun watching the wildlife.
2:02 pm
UnikeTheHunter

I'm starting Friday's Expert over from scratch.
2:02 pm
andy99

thanks - it's all gone quiet out there now
2:03 pm
andy99

good luch with Friday's
2:03 pm
andy99

good luch with Friday's
2:04 pm
andy99

I can't give any advice, as I still don't know how I did it
2:04 pm
UnikeTheHunter

Thanks. Now to find the first five I did without greens.
2:04 pm
andy99

yeah - I did that, then got stuck for an hour and a half
2:05 pm
andy99

then suddenly did the rest in about 10 minutes
2:05 pm
UnikeTheHunter

I was stuck for days, finally guessed, thought my guess was having a good run, so I saved it as a checkpoint when my wife made me quit. But it was a bad guess.
2:06 pm
andy99

a pity you can't keep a couple of checkpoints for cases like that
2:21 pm
brianarn

Yeah, I wish there were more than one level of checkpoint, but I can understand what a pain that could be to code. I'm still stuck on Friday as well.
2:33 pm
Zugzug7

GO
2:35 pm
brianarn

I hate when i figure it out but I can't pinpoint why - but hey, done with Friday
2:36 pm
UnikeTheHunter

This time I found the x-wing that I searched so long for in Friday's.
2:37 pm
UnikeTheHunter

Maybe I eliminated things by some other technique before.
2:42 pm
twstedangel

Friday's was tough!
2:42 pm
twstedangel

i don't think normal techniques applied to solving that one
2:43 pm
UnikeTheHunter

Cute baby picture.
2:43 pm
twstedangel

does anyone know what the difficulty score was for that one?
2:43 pm
twstedangel

thanks. It's my 11 mo. old daughter
2:43 pm
twstedangel

I think she was 7 mo. old in this particularpic
2:47 pm
UnikeTheHunter

Y'know? I'm surprised so many ladies like Sudoku. I always have trouble finding gals interested in logic puzzles.
2:49 pm
Zugzug7

done. took two times and it all fell together.
2:52 pm
twstedangel

consider me a puzzle kind of gal :-P
2:53 pm
UnikeTheHunter

Is your education or career logic oriented?
2:58 pm
UnikeTheHunter

If you're interested in the difficulty level of Friday's, I think DrWho has them all posted someplace in his "Paul's Locks" web site. I don't know the exact URL.
3:10 pm
helenkeller

go
3:14 pm
UnikeTheHunter

Here is DrWho's web site. http://pauls-pc-repair.com/sudoku/ Unfortunately, clicking on his link to the scores page doesn't work right now.
3:17 pm
UnikeTheHunter

Oh, here it is. Somehow I got the link but it didn't work just clicking it. This is the scores page. http://pauls-pc-repair.com/sudoku/scores.php
3:18 pm
UnikeTheHunter

Friday's level was 101.
3:34 pm
helenkeller

done
3:35 pm
twstedangel

damn!
3:35 pm
twstedangel

i play for the fun of it. Sudoku kind of relaxes me
3:36 pm
twstedangel

sorry it took so long to respond --- "the terror" is awake now
3:36 pm
twstedangel

later everyone
7:50 pm
herinfernallady

start
9:39 pm
UnikeTheHunter

Finally I've done Friday's Expert. I had to guess. Just one good guess finishes it off.
9:42 pm
Andy

Wow... I was stuck this morning. I just checked it and found a naked pair I missed. All done.
10:12 pm
Minski

I messed up this morning and had to start over but I got it pretty easily tonight using greenies and a few guesses.
11:47 pm
moedog

hi, folks - let's see if i can beat the deadline!
11:51 pm
moedog

yay! :)