In one of his recent speeches Boris Johnson was showing a kipper from the Isle Of Man, blaming the EU for the fact that it had to be sent with cooling from there to the UK. Blaming the EU is a favorite passtime in UK government circles, but in this case (a) Man is not in the EU and (b) the EU has nothing to do with this rule about cooling, that is a UK-only rule.

The same blaming game happens with the Brexit deal. Ireland will veto any deal that violates the Good Friday agreement. That means an open border between Ireland and Northern Ireland. But Brexit means a closed border. So the UK created this problem, and blames the EU for not solving it.

@TallMike refers o the once proud and indepedent nation, forgetting the civil war in Ulster and the fact that the English treated the Irish as a colony. No, that is not proud etc., that is arrogant and reckless.

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It have never been a secret that the USA is the proverbial land of milk & honey, where the streets are paved with gold.

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done - Phil, as you mentioned last week that a lot of people participated in the success of the 1969 moon landing, our local paper, published last Sunday, stated that Neil Armstrong’s legs were NOT the first legs to touch the moon but rather, the Lunar Module’s legs…made right here in Longueuil ! A lot of people were indeed involved in that astounding achievement.

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Pretty slow. 17.

We're not at an impasse, KT. You haven't changed my mind because you haven't offered any evidence to support your claims.

We're not at an impasse, KT. You haven't changed my mind because you haven't offered any evidence to support your claims.

But I can't see last one. While I'm not in general dismissing your sources--when you said that, I was honestly worried you were about to link to the WND--I am not going to buy a subscription to read an article you've linked to.

Offer me evidence that supports what you claimed that I can actually see, and I'll really consider it. I just haven't seen that yet.

MrO, your first response to my assertion that democracy in the UK has been undermined by excessive control from Brussels was to point to Boris Johnson's kipper, an incident which you clearly do not understand at all. The British have seen a huge amount of EU intrusion into microscopic details of how they are required to behave (for example preventing the greengrocer from selling my elderly and ailing mother two pounds of potatoes when she had no idea what the metric equivalent might be). In response, the British have become adept at inventing satirical scenarios which parody the Brussels style of micro-management. Boris Johnson's suggestion that the EU now requires that every kipper must be accompanied by a refrigerated pillow was an obvious satire, and his audience loved it because they understand British humor. It was particularly clever because later in the same speech Mr. Johnson said that under his leadership the Conservative party would pick up the "kippers," this time using the word as slang for members of the Ukip party.

Your are only partially correct about the Good Friday agreement as an obstacle to Brexit. What you fail to mention is that the agreement is a work in progress and its implementation has evolved over time. There is nothing to prevent the agreement from being modified further in order to accommodate the needs of Brexit, if the parties to the agreement so agree. However, the EU is insisting that certain conditions must be met, as if they are also parties to the agreement, which they are not.

Finally, if you would kindly read my actual post rather than quote what you think I wrote, I did not refer to the UK as "the once proud and independent nation" but rather as "once a proudly independent nation now under the thumbs of the EU overlords." Prior to being pushed around excessively by EU regulators, the British people had every right to feel proudly independent. The fact that there were aspects of their country's history about which many of them felt less than proud did not undermine their right to take pride in their nation's long history of independence. And they want their independence back, now. It has been three years since the referendum, and they are still waiting. Not good.

SJ - THis link goes to the Dallas Morning News not WND. https://tinyurl.com/yynq6o9x