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Difficulty: Hard Wednesday, October 24, 2007

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CHAT LOG for Wednesday, October 24, 2007

12:34 am
WHB

Done
12:57 am
trueheart11

go
1:13 am
irockmypjs247

can you change the difficulty? or does it change each puzzle?
1:19 am
MrOoijer

it changes each puzzle
1:23 am
trueheart11

done
1:23 am
irockmypjs247

thanks
2:16 am
yul

hello
2:47 am
yul

done
3:18 am
FranMag

start
4:27 am
Phil

start
4:56 am
FranMag

done after a long interruption
5:20 am
Phil

done after a restart
5:20 am
spreadeagle

Done, used greens due to a lack of time, then very easy.
6:11 am
eyeman

OK, done. Whew. Let the day begin!
6:51 am
kixx

go
6:55 am
luv2play

This is my first one. What are greens and how do you use them???
7:01 am
smooth_pappa

start
7:02 am
smooth_pappa

luv: greens are a way of marking which numbers can go into any given square. If you look down a couple of posts, and click on spreadeagle's icon, he has the code in his bio. Just select it, and copy it into the address window of your browser, and it will auto fill the greens
7:02 am
Stef

greens show what the possibilities are for a cell. you place them by holding shift and clicking on the number. happy hunting!
7:04 am
Stef

hi smooth. liked your web site, really good snaps:) gave up autofilling a while back. it confuses things for me.
7:04 am
smooth_pappa

thanks stef! :)
7:09 am
kixx

done
7:10 am
smooth_pappa

well done!
7:12 am
smooth_pappa

done. no greens
7:12 am
smooth_pappa

I've gotta take off... see you all later!
7:13 am
Stef

bye
8:41 am
Stef

finally!!! i solved (well, guessed really) the evil puzzle from 1st October last year. Must have been like my sixth attempt. Need to swot up on my technique :)
9:01 am
ypsigirl

done
9:46 am
spellacked

that was a "hard"? It went through easier than a number of "easy" ones -- no hidden pairs, no greens needed, just crosshatching. DrWho hasn't posted a difficulty yet, but I doubt it's over 20.
10:05 am
drwho

Difficulty score 39.
10:08 am
drwho

Spellacked is right, no hidden pairs are needed, but at least 1 naked pair is. If you only used cross-hatching you made some leaps of faith somewhere.
10:16 am
martom

can someone remind me what a "naked pair"is?
10:29 am
danreed121

If two cells in a group contain an identical pair of candidates and only those two candidates, then no other cells in that group could be those values.
10:32 am
martom

Thanks a million danreed - I took a "senior moment"!
10:54 am
luv2play

ddjklzxyti[p'
11:35 am
RodeoRogue

go
11:36 am
vivi1435

then what is a hidden pair please?
11:49 am
Limer

Where's the October 23rd puzzle in the archives
11:54 am
RodeoRogue

done, no green
12:34 pm
UnikeTheHunter

Go.
1:20 pm
UnikeTheHunter

No greens. Two loners and a pair were the only non-crosshatch or virtual crosshatch cells.
3:04 pm
JustMe

i have no clue what a crosshatch and non crosshatch is. no wonder i struggle at this game! but i still like the challenge!
3:32 pm
helenkeller

3:54 pm
helenkeller

a few greens at the end, just lazy :)
4:04 pm
sandbox74

go
4:51 pm
danreed121

JustMe.... google can offer all the information you need if you search for "Sudoku Crosshatcing", etc.
4:52 pm
danreed121

you are probably doing those techniques... just don't know the names ;)
4:56 pm
sandbox74

done.. had to use greens after starting over twice.. grumble grumble grumble
5:40 pm
Stef

Limer, Oct 23 is missing for me too. Ringing the DrGodPhone...dring dring...dring dring...guess i'll have to email then
5:43 pm
Stef

message bottled and cast into the ether
5:56 pm
angieplumptit

Done with the help of the Lord, may God bless Him.
6:11 pm
hurshy

my mart is too fine... it defies description
6:13 pm
hurshy

how can so much cuteness fit into such a small creature?
6:22 pm
hurshy

if you are missing a prev puzzle, it is real easy, because if you look where it says where you are on the web, the puzzle number for any archived puzzle is at the end. so oct 23rd you can just manually put in www.ironsudoku.com/592 for instance.
6:33 pm
hurshy

i love unique rectangles
6:33 pm
artlady

lol hursh
6:33 pm
hurshy

i know, i know, i've said it before. but it bears repeating. they are so beauteous.
6:34 pm
artlady

We should all have beauty to enjoy. Somewhere!
6:34 pm
hurshy

well, as it is Fall, there's lots o' it
6:35 pm
artlady

Ah, not too many great colors here. The leaves are just shriveling up and falling off. Wisconsin has great color, I hear.
6:35 pm
hurshy

Where are You?
6:36 pm
artlady

Chicago area
6:36 pm
hurshy

i should ask my sister about her colors. she is in a suburb of milwaukee
6:36 pm
artlady

It
6:36 pm
artlady

Oops. As I started to say...it's usually pretty here. Maybe it's late this year. Our October weather was odd.
6:38 pm
hurshy

our sept was too warm but now it's crisped up and we got the colors at last
6:39 pm
hurshy

i thought at first you were inviting us to philosophically ponder the simple word "it"
6:39 pm
artlady

too neutral
6:40 pm
artlady

like the colors of the leaves around here!
6:40 pm
hurshy

"it" is too neutral?
6:40 pm
artlady

I haven't played in ages--I'm way behind. Haven't Babbled in even longer.
6:40 pm
hurshy

but that is what makes "it" simple
6:40 pm
artlady

not for you?
6:41 pm
hurshy

tomorrow i shall wear some fall socks.
6:41 pm
hurshy

with Leaves on them
6:41 pm
artlady

will you be leaving in them?
6:42 pm
hurshy

well artlady, i dunno about "too neutral"... sometimes neutral is good, sometimes extreme is good, to everything there is a season. and this season is Fall. are the swiss too neutral?
6:42 pm
hurshy

i will be leaving home in the morning in them yes and then i will be leaving work in them in the afternoon.
6:42 pm
artlady

good chocolate, watches and wonderful air and scenery
6:43 pm
hurshy

yes but i mean in wars
6:43 pm
hurshy

they are Neutral
6:43 pm
hurshy

and this is a Good Thing
6:43 pm
artlady

I know, hurshy.
6:43 pm
artlady

I'm being tangential
6:43 pm
artlady

as in capital G capital T
6:43 pm
artlady

Good Thing, that is, not TanGenTial
6:44 pm
hurshy

yes i sort of figured
6:44 pm
hurshy

some people think that chicago is the capital of illinois but i am not one of those ignorami
6:45 pm
artlady

I think some people in Illinois think so, too.
6:45 pm
hurshy

uhoh!
6:45 pm
hurshy

that is not a Good Thing
6:45 pm
artlady

They are ignorami
6:45 pm
hurshy

some people have never heard of rhode island at all though, that might be even worse
6:45 pm
artlady

no, they're probably ignoramuses
6:46 pm
artlady

Or they think it's an island
6:46 pm
hurshy

we should write them a letter in the paper
6:46 pm
artlady

My kids rode the carousel at Watch Hill in Rhode Island. That's my only experience there.
6:46 pm
artlady

A
6:47 pm
hurshy

Dear Ignorami (if you don't know what that means, then This Means You): Springfield is the capital of Illinois, and Rhode Island is a state, not an island, although it does have islands in it.
6:47 pm
artlady

or maybe... T
6:47 pm
artlady

Oh, your letter is better than mine
6:47 pm
artlady

You used lots of letters
6:47 pm
artlady

(told you I was tangential tonight)
6:47 pm
hurshy

there's philosophy for you
6:48 pm
hurshy

lots of letters making one letter
6:48 pm
artlady

Yes, you are very letterate
6:48 pm
hurshy

har har har
6:51 pm
queenruejean

Hurshy, when we lived in Rhode Island a lot of people asked us if we lived on Rhode Island. I couldn't believe it. I said no, we live on Aquidneck Island. Then they wanted to know if we had to row boats to shore! I said RI was actually rather advanced & in fact had bridges. Doofusi.
6:51 pm
hurshy

lol
6:52 pm
artlady

there are ignorami everywhere
6:52 pm
hurshy

i work in newport, but can't afford to live on the island!! wouldn't really want to anyway i guess... i'm happy out here in exeter where there is room for sod farms
6:53 pm
queenruejean

Oh yes. We have a disproportionate number in CA. Well, Hurshy, we were Navy. First time around lived in Low Income housing (Oxbow Farms in Middletown) second time around Military Housing. Yuck.
6:53 pm
hurshy

yuck both?
6:54 pm
queenruejean

No, military housing. It was okay, but I hated having to ask permission to put a picture up & we got in trouble once because our lawn was 1/8 inch too high.
6:54 pm
hurshy

oh jeepers
6:55 pm
artlady

Someone actually had the job of measuring the grass in lawns?
6:56 pm
queenruejean

But we loved Rhode Island & hated to leave when he got out of the Navy. Just couldn't afford it. So we ended up back in CA. Yeah, it's sooooo cheap here! :)
6:56 pm
artlady

As long as you're not near San Diego.
6:56 pm
hurshy

someone marks your tires in the parking lot at the post office to make sure you don't stay more than 15 mins... so why not grass measuring?
6:56 pm
queenruejean

Artlady, oh yes. They sent lower ranking sailors around. They also checked our recycling stuff & rejected it if it wasn't spotlessly clean.
6:57 pm
queenruejean

About a 100 miles from SD. Closer to the Lake Arrowhead fires. We have one smaller one (only about 1000 acres) about 10 miles from us.
6:57 pm
hurshy

i have a heartbreaking refuse story myself, qrj!
6:58 pm
hurshy

oh gee, only a thousand acres! is that all?
6:58 pm
queenruejean

Well, I "refuse" to hear it! Lol. What is it? Well, Hursh, compared to 100,000, yeah, that's all. 5000 in the mountains.
6:59 pm
hurshy

when i lived at the boarding school, we had dumpsters in a certain place and rather than try to get trash out on certain days and times (which people's dogs would get into anyway) we would just take ours to the dumpster
7:00 pm
hurshy

well one day when my husband was away - on a week long trip for the school
7:00 pm
hurshy

i took my trash to the dumpsters and they were gone! and i looked around and saw something a little bit away that looked dumpsterish
7:01 pm
hurshy

so i went over there and as it turns out it was a new trash compactor, but it was not open. not knowing what to do, i left my trash next to the compactor.
7:01 pm
hurshy

when i got home, i found the trash returned to my house, scattered all over the front lawn - i guess by the dogs!
7:02 pm
hurshy

you see, they had put a notice in my husband's school mailbox saying the hours the compactor was open and that they would return trash that was left near it. but as he was away, i only bothered checking the external mail, so i did not know this.
7:02 pm
queenruejean

Oh my! It would be so nice if people explained that they were changing things & what you should do. I wouldn't have had a clue about what to do with a compactor. I've never even seen one!
7:03 pm
queenruejean

Ah, they sort of let you know. But still...
7:03 pm
hurshy

i was extremely hurt that they did not think about the fact that he was away and i might not have gotten the note, and have a little grace period. they always talked about how we were this great community, you know?
7:03 pm
hurshy

i mean there are like 25 faculty.
7:04 pm
queenruejean

Yes. I think that they should notify the spouses too. In fact, I would notify spouses first!
7:04 pm
hurshy

seems like under the circs it would have been easier for them to put it in the compactor that time than bring it all the way back to my house (which must have meant they had to go through the trash for identifying info, ick!)
7:05 pm
hurshy

it still makes me upset to think about today. i had a friend staying with me and it was so embarrassing when we got home and found garbage all around!
7:06 pm
queenruejean

Would make you want to gather it up & take it back to them!
7:07 pm
hurshy

well, i did have to gather it up and put it in new bags and then go check the internal school mail to find out what the deal was
7:08 pm
queenruejean

How stupid. Much easier to just throw it away & then make an announcement to the families that this is the new way.
7:09 pm
hurshy

it was especially galling since he was away for work for them in the first place! they send him away and then are mean to me. no fair.
7:10 pm
queenruejean

Oftentime, as I learned in the military, the spouse is considered less than zero.
7:11 pm
hurshy

but, they don't pretend that they are a warm fuzzy community, do they? i hate hypocrisy.
7:12 pm
queenruejean

So true. Tell me to my face how it is. Even if I don't like it, I would rather not be lied to.
7:13 pm
hurshy

why are bugs such a popular subject for computer generated animated movies?
7:14 pm
queenruejean

I don't know. They make them so cute, but they don't look so cute in your home. Maybe they are easier to create?
7:15 pm
hurshy

i can't think they would be easier to create than any other animals... i mean they have done other things... undersea creatures for instance...
7:15 pm
hurshy

but if my count is correct, bugs are beating sea creatures 3-2
7:17 pm
queenruejean

Ah, my wonderful husband has announced dinner is served. Got to go get some sustenance. I will puzzle over the question & probably contribute little more! Night all!
7:17 pm
hurshy

night
7:46 pm
btwrt

still there, hursh?
8:45 pm
Montreal13

done no greens - 1 false guess and then the right one - salutos Francesco !