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Difficulty: Medium Thursday, March 16, 2006

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CHAT LOG for Thursday, March 16, 2006

12:03 am
Dr_God

We'll see if today's "Medium" is easier than yesterday's. ;)
12:03 am
scottru

here's hoping
12:03 am
scottru

some easy starts
12:05 am
scottru

no 7s on the board
12:05 am
sprite

Yesterday's was nasty :) Morning all, ready for a new challenge.
12:05 am
scottru

and one 8
12:06 am
sprite

If you can count, there is hope, lol.
12:13 am
lawfully

It's gonna be easier than tomorrow... I guess...
12:13 am
sprite

Midsection is a breeze. After that, I am looking for a way out ;)
12:40 am
orb

well, that was relatively painless
12:41 am
Krys10

Glad to hear there's a painless part somewhere in here :)
12:58 am
licketySplitAUS

I'm a ready! Even been reading about X-Wing and SwordFish patterns
1:00 am
Krys10

i just got to the painless part!
1:03 am
Debs40ish

yeahhhhhhhh finished :)
1:04 am
sprite

Feels good, doesn't it, Krys! :) Congrats, Debs. In about 10 minutes my kids will leave for school and I might get some time and quiet to puzzle.
1:04 am
Debs40ish

Better go get showered & dressed..If anyone sees Hurshy say hi to her for me.... Have fun Sprite cya later :)
1:04 am
Krys10

Bye Debs!
1:05 am
Debs40ish

Cya Krys tc
1:06 am
sprite

Bye Debs :)
1:08 am
Krys10

done! 'night, all.
1:08 am
sprite

Night Krys!
1:28 am
sandyloo

done and now to babble
1:41 am
bstadil

Done Goodnight all
1:58 am
sprite

Done too. Fairly easy. Have fun all :)
1:59 am
goatherdered

easy???
1:59 am
goatherdered

no
2:03 am
andyc

My save state button doesn't work!!
2:03 am
andyc


2:03 am
andyc

Oh, it's woken up now I've typed something...
2:03 am
mrpresident

Sprite is a big of a genius I am afraid! LOL
2:05 am
andyc

That suddenly finished in a hurry..... Whooo hooo...
2:13 am
goatherdered

i give up
3:02 am
MotiveForce

bah
3:03 am
rcheramy

gimme some sevens... geeze
3:03 am
MotiveForce

lolz... this one's in base-9
3:03 am
a

it's good to see i'm not the only one craving 7's :p
3:03 am
MotiveForce

we should all be asleep
3:03 am
rcheramy

base9?
3:04 am
MotiveForce

just a joke rcheramy... don't worry, there are 7s
3:04 am
rcheramy

Ive got 2 of them.
3:04 am
darthdurden

i've got 4 :P
3:05 am
MotiveForce

w00t
3:05 am
MotiveForce

darthdureden is the r0x
3:05 am
darthdurden

oh shit... i have 3... 3 still greater than 2
3:05 am
MotiveForce

i hate you darth... you lied
3:05 am
MotiveForce

bad darth
3:05 am
darthdurden

:\
3:06 am
rcheramy

I've got 1 in box 4&6
3:08 am
rcheramy

aha got one in box 2... I now have 3
3:08 am
MotiveForce

freudian box... or are we talking grids?
3:09 am
MotiveForce

c'mon... that's funny
3:09 am
MotiveForce

tough crowd.
3:09 am
darthdurden

roflcopter
3:10 am
rcheramy

we're busy hunting 7s...
3:10 am
MotiveForce

nice
3:10 am
darthdurden

i'm busy hunting freudian boxes
3:10 am
MotiveForce

b00yah!
3:11 am
rcheramy

4 down... 5 to go.
3:15 am
MotiveForce

Uh oh... you made a mistake and you're not gonna see the result until the end!!!
3:15 am
MotiveForce

Beware the Ides+1 of march
3:17 am
MotiveForce

Why is this not AJAX? *sigh*
3:17 am
MotiveForce

everyone and their gayJAX
3:17 am
MotiveForce

(no xml)
3:17 am
ringedingdong

i think it is ajax, must be, mustnt it?
3:17 am
MotiveForce

it's fake ajax
3:17 am
ringedingdong

why?
3:18 am
MotiveForce

the responses don't come back in anything remotely similar to XML
3:18 am
MotiveForce

and the X stands for XML
3:18 am
MotiveForce

but fake AJAX is easy, so that's mostly the only thing people use (cuz they don't rock hard)
3:18 am
ringedingdong

ok its aja?... well i think this is ok too ; )
3:18 am
ringedingdong

oh comeon!
3:18 am
MotiveForce

yeh, def still a sexy game
3:18 am
ringedingdong

thats the point! ; )
3:21 am
darthdurden

6 7's!
3:22 am
rcheramy

7 7s
3:22 am
ringedingdong

lOl
3:22 am
MotiveForce

blahhh
3:22 am
rcheramy

8
3:22 am
rcheramy

yay got 9 7s
3:22 am
MotiveForce

10
3:22 am
rcheramy

wheres the 10th one
3:22 am
MotiveForce

i have 10!!
3:22 am
rcheramy

:)
3:22 am
MotiveForce

hahaha
3:22 am
darthdurden

rofl
3:22 am
ringedingdong

why!?
3:23 am
MotiveForce

cuz you can't have 10 of any
3:25 am
rcheramy

ta done!
3:25 am
rcheramy

Night
3:25 am
MotiveForce

congrads
3:25 am
MotiveForce

oh snap... you can't sleep... it's time to get up!
3:25 am
darthdurden

i was just taking a work break
3:27 am
MotiveForce

w00t
3:27 am
darthdurden

FTW!
3:27 am
MotiveForce

now we can get back to work
3:27 am
darthdurden

indeed
3:36 am
Lamancha

Tricky again - needed to take a punt between two numbers and see where it took me - my crappy logic wasn't enough - only 20+ hours until the next one.....
4:40 am
MrOoijer

ok got it, indeed medium, yestrady was too hard to be medium. no backtracking needed only forced numbers
5:15 am
bzikofski

this one seems easier than yesterday
5:25 am
ringedingdong

GOT IT ; )
5:42 am
Ricey

when are these puzzles going to get harder???
5:42 am
Ricey

not very challenging at the mo
6:17 am
IceQueenNabiki

you guys been to websudoku.com
6:17 am
IceQueenNabiki

?
6:17 am
bzikofski

yeah
6:17 am
IceQueenNabiki

how do you think of it compared to this site?
6:17 am
bzikofski

try evil puzzle number 666
6:18 am
bzikofski

well the medium puzzles are just about the same
6:18 am
IceQueenNabiki

hah
6:18 am
IceQueenNabiki

yeah
6:18 am
bzikofski

but the evil ones are very hard
6:18 am
bzikofski

almost imposible
6:18 am
IceQueenNabiki

they are
6:18 am
IceQueenNabiki

I usually do the hard ones
6:18 am
IceQueenNabiki

I try to beat my best time
6:20 am
bzikofski

i don't compete for time
6:20 am
bzikofski

i'm at work ;)
6:27 am
IceQueenNabiki

ahh
6:28 am
IceQueenNabiki

makes sense
6:28 am
IceQueenNabiki

well, where I am it's 9:30 at night, so
7:15 am
Bubbles

this ain't easy!!!!!
7:15 am
Kellie

erm... no its not
7:15 am
chebuctonian

hi all.
7:15 am
Bubbles

where's tony when you need him
7:16 am
chebuctonian

I thought this was collaborative... are we just all working on the same puzzle?
7:18 am
Kellie

Tony who?
7:20 am
Bubbles

dad
7:21 am
Kellie

ha ha... he wont be able to do this! his too old. Tell you something though.. if this is a medium I would hate to see what a difficult is
7:22 am
Bubbles

absolutely
7:23 am
Kellie

oh I went through that 1st chapter with my mum last night and she didn't have a clue about it all either.... this course is going to be hard
7:26 am
Kellie

right i have bit the bullet and have guessed!! I'm on a roll but i bet any money that I have cocked this up ha
7:27 am
chebuctonian

does this let you have more than one number in a field as a marker?
7:27 am
Atalante

yup - hold shift down as you select the number
7:27 am
chebuctonian

thanks!
7:28 am
Atalante

and alt (I think) if you want a little red number to say it can't be that number in that square
7:29 am
chebuctonian

hmm... anyway to select them at the same time? having to pop-up that square three times is nuts
7:30 am
Kellie

OH MY GOD!!! what a guess.. bubbles i have done it.
7:30 am
Atalante

Dr_G has been told that :P
7:33 am
Bubbles

cow!!!!!
7:34 am
Kellie

HA HA
7:41 am
Bubbles

am i bovered tho
7:42 am
Kellie

YOU CALLING MY MUM A PIKI
7:42 am
Kellie

sorry didnt mean to shout that ha
7:43 am
Bubbles

yeah shhhhhh its a libary, people working
7:43 am
Kellie

ha ha AM I BOTHERED THOUGH!
7:43 am
chebuctonian

hmm... is there a way to start over from scratch if I made a mistake? I guess this only shows obvious ones :(
7:43 am
Bubbles

yeah but no but
7:44 am
Kellie

if you go into the Rankings tab and then come back out again then i should clear what you have done
7:44 am
Bubbles

only if you haven't saved it
7:44 am
Kellie

I'm the only gay in the village!
7:45 am
chebuctonian

that's so straight
7:45 am
Kellie

ha ha
7:45 am
Bubbles

i'm a ladieeeeee
7:46 am
Kellie

oh no your not! ha
7:46 am
Kellie

computer says nooooo
7:47 am
Bubbles

mine definately does
7:47 am
Bubbles

mine definately does#
7:47 am
Bubbles

oh yes i am
7:48 am
Bubbles

did my 5 belong there or not?
7:50 am
Kellie

erm no where near it ha
7:51 am
tuco

done
7:54 am
Kellie

I can give a small clue... to be honest it wont help out much though
8:02 am
randomm

hi all
8:02 am
randomm

hi all

8:02 am
randomm

hi all
8:02 am
randomm

hi all




8:02 am
randomm

hi all



8:02 am
randomm

hi all





8:02 am
randomm

hi all







8:02 am
Onpaki

looks tought today.
8:02 am
dplass

HI RANDOMM
8:02 am
randomm

hi all


8:02 am
randomm

hi all








8:03 am
randomm

hi all






8:03 am
dplass

ok, now that's just annoying
8:03 am
Onpaki

hi randomm
8:03 am
randomm

whoops... sorry... latency problem... and noob!
8:03 am
randomm

just joined :)
8:03 am
randomm

now it works fine...
8:03 am
Onpaki

i had to restart twice.
8:04 am
randomm

using safari... anyone else having problems with the chat & safari?
8:04 am
haZe

let me try :)
8:04 am
haZe

no, seems ok
8:04 am
haZe

refresh is just a bit slow, but nothing more
8:09 am
randomm

anyone completed todays one yet?
8:09 am
haZe

they wouldn't be here anymore ;-)
8:11 am
randomm

indeed... :$
8:15 am
bunnyvicious

Just one 7 somewhere on the board would have been nice!
8:15 am
bzikofski

there should be an option to hide the chat
8:16 am
bunnyvicious

I like it in Babble, it's under the board so you can ignore it if you want.
8:16 am
randomm

somehow the board feels too big... difficult to look at as I'm more used to smaller newspaper sudokus...
8:16 am
bzikofski

sometimes people give tips where is a number ("look for the 2 first !!), and incidentally you read it.. i don't like it.. it sucks
8:16 am
mythmon

you can switch to the Who's Online tab, then you cant see teh chat
8:17 am
randomm

hmm... perhaps there should be a "spoiler" switch. i.e. tick the spoiler switch before making such a comment
8:17 am
jojomnky

i think its bad form to make those comments at all
8:18 am
bzikofski

o yea
8:18 am
bunnyvicious

Myth, TY, I'd have never thought of that
8:18 am
bzikofski

im switchin to who's online then :) later
8:30 am
Kellie

BUBBLES HOW YOU GETTING ON?? YOU NEARLY FINISHED
8:31 am
Bubbles

in a word NO
8:34 am
Kellie

YOU COME DOWN TO A POINT WHER YOU JUST HAVE TO TAKE A GAMBLE... IT DOESNT HELP THAT THERE IS NO 7'S AND ONLY 1 8!
8:34 am
Kellie

SORRY I AM NOT SHOUTING I'M RAISING QUOTES AND THEY HAVE TO BE IN CAPS
8:34 am
randomm

quotes?
8:35 am
Kellie

SORRY WORKING
8:39 am
Bubbles

ahhhhhhhhhhh
8:39 am
Kellie

ha ha i have just realised how rude my comment looks. Sorry randomm if you read that as me being rude. I'm raising quote for work.
8:42 am
bzikofski

this is what i was taling about
8:42 am
bzikofski

people should have more respect for others...
8:43 am
bzikofski

and not give tips for shits sake !!!
8:44 am
Thuryn

This one is easier then yesterday's (so far)
8:44 am
evanonut

language!
8:44 am
bunnyvicious

Yes please.
8:44 am
Bubbles

calm down
8:44 am
bzikofski

sorry :o
8:44 am
FMitch

Hi Evan & bunny I was just typing the same thing - language!!!
8:45 am
Kellie

Sorry bzi... but are you talking about what i have said?
8:45 am
Bubbles

yeah
8:45 am
bunnyvicious

Hello you two.
8:45 am
bzikofski

sorry for the language. it was meant to sound funny. didn't make it :(
8:45 am
evanonut

hmmm - hey fmitch
8:45 am
jared

done. yay!
8:45 am
FMitch

we share another addiction together LOL
8:45 am
bunnyvicious

wtg jared! Wish I could say the same...
8:45 am
Kellie

i dont remember saying anything about where things are....
8:46 am
Kellie

i didnt think my work had anything to do with this game
8:46 am
evanonut

i think i missed something kellie
8:46 am
bunnyvicious

Hope Dr G doesn't decide to make another game to add to the two already...
8:46 am
jared

thanks, bunny. didn't even have to guess (though I thought I was going to have to for a second).
8:46 am
evanadine

i think the "problem" is that this game was created by the same man who created another game called Babble.
a lot of the Babble players are on the chatlog here, trying out this game.
over on the Babbler chatlog, we have coded ways of giving clues, which is perfectly acceptable over there. they just sort of carry the same mentality over here, forgetting that its not necessarily the same pool of people playing as on Babble.
8:47 am
Kellie

I'm talking about my work though not giving any clues on the game... i couldnt even if i want to coz i cant see the table anymore coz i've done it
8:47 am
dplass

i can't find any 7s
8:47 am
randomm

whoops... for some reason I had a problem with the 7 graphic showing...
8:47 am
bunnyvicious

Really? No guessing? I needed to hear that, I'm missing something then, had to wipe clean around six times!
8:47 am
dplass

@randomm not what i mean...
8:47 am
randomm

and being new to the game didn't realise that it was just the fact that the browser couldn't get the graphic...
8:48 am
FMitch

It doesn't show any 7's and only 1 x 8 - that is not the basis for a "medium" level puzzle
8:48 am
randomm

oh, sorry... I know... that's not it... when I finally found a seven and put it in, it wouldn't show... so I thought that I'd made a mistake, but it was just that for some reason my browser couldn't get the graphic at that time
8:48 am
bunnyvicious

I agree
8:48 am
dplass

i must be dum [sic] cuz [sic] i can't seem to make headway on this one -- AGAIN
8:49 am
Bubbles

absolutely fmitch. Everyone scream together
8:49 am
randomm

so I logged in and logged back in and surprise surprise the 7 graphic was there where I had tried to put it...
8:49 am
Bubbles

1..... 2......3
8:49 am
jared

Nope, no guessing. There was one logical deduction to make, that took me about 10 minutes to find (once I got deadlocked and had my little green numbers everywhere). After that, the board was done in 2 minutes.
8:49 am
randomm

sorry...: logged out and back in... :$
8:49 am
FMitch

aaaargggghhh
8:49 am
Kellie

thing is though bubbles i'm getting accused of something that i haven't even done
8:49 am
randomm

yep, no guessing necessary...
8:49 am
evanonut

oh my cow! you guys move the log more than babbland
8:50 am
dplass

i need a 'clear all pencil marks' b utton
8:51 am
Jinjiru

So strange.... looks like I need to have two 8s in one row... I have one empty cell in a column and 8 is missing... and if I put 8 here, it'll be in one row with another 8... But I have no error messages, so everything is put correctly...
8:52 am
FMitch

Yea Evan, we have much more space on babble chat I think Dr_G is going to change it here. Thats why he is letting us test it for him just like he did with the beta site on babble.
8:52 am
evanadine

just because there are no error messages doesnt necessarily mean the numbers are in the correct places...
8:52 am
evanonut

not necessarily jinjiru - could mean you need to wipe a block or two
8:52 am
bunnyvicious

He said he might move this chatterbox to babble, but then the stats might go under the board...
8:53 am
FMitch

oh no !!! really bunny not sure about that at all.
8:53 am
Jinjiru

Don't error cells mean they are correct?
8:54 am
evanonut

error just means you have a repeat
8:54 am
evanadine

the error warning only shows when there is a conflict, not when a number is placed in the wrong square.
8:55 am
M3

is there anyway of putting two numbers in one box. other SuDoku puzzles give you this option? makes it a lot easier to work x
8:55 am
dplass

M3: *save first* then click on how to play
8:55 am
sarugirl

hello
8:56 am
randomm

hello sarugirl
8:56 am
evanadine

M3 -- hold down shift + click if you want it to be a possibility (itll show up green.)
hold down alt + click of you want ot to be a no-go (it will show up red)
8:57 am
M3

AHHHHHH thanks xxx
8:57 am
M3

in play this , http://www.timesonline.co.uk/section/0,,23509
,00.html
8:57 am
Thuryn

dammit. once again, i'm going to be forced to guess rather than logically deriving the next move
8:58 am
randomm

you don't need to guess
8:58 am
Thuryn

well, every single open square has two possible values
8:58 am
evanadine

supposedly you should never *have* to guess...
but most of the times, i just cant see any more clues in the grid, even if theyre there...
8:58 am
evanonut

dont guess, just t-h-i-n-k - aaaahhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmm
8:59 am
Jinjiru

Is there a possibility to reset my puzzle? I just want to start from scratch :)
8:59 am
evanadine

jin -- Dr God is working on that. but for now, you have to clear each individual square
8:59 am
bunnyvicious

I better get, have to work at the diner, need to invest in a lap top... catch you all late tonight!
8:59 am
M3

oh like it now i know, just trying to go between babble and this emmmm more time wasted !!!
9:00 am
Jinjiru

evanadine - thank you :)
9:00 am
xtinct

is there a way to clear the whole puzzle and start from scratch
9:00 am
FMitch

Jin, if you haven't saved at all then go to archives or one of the other options and that will clear the screen back to the start.
9:01 am
randomm

thuryn: you need to find those pairs so that it reduces the number of blank squares on the 3x3 grid
9:01 am
randomm

or at least that's how I got through it... took me ages though :(
9:02 am
Thuryn

well, and 'close enough' logic is still useful. e.g. if i know a 7 is in a given column in a 3x3, that's good enough to use it to reduce possibilites in two other squares
9:02 am
Thuryn

but it isn't helping
9:03 am
Thuryn

oh wait. it just did. ^_^
9:03 am
Thuryn

dammit. no it didn't. ;_;
9:05 am
randomm

basically how i got through it was to find out a pair of numbers that would occupy specific two squares on the 3x3 grid, so that takes those squares out of contention
9:05 am
Thuryn

ah yes. i've done that before. lessee now...
9:05 am
randomm

after that I had three possible numbers left and by looking at the adjacent 3x3 area I could figure it out...
9:06 am
dplass

this puzzle is kicking my butt like yesterday
9:06 am
snboarder99

wahoo, i got i!
9:08 am
dplass

damnit why is it ALT and not CONTROL shift
9:08 am
striker

hi
9:08 am
raerae7133

Mornin' everybody
9:11 am
purewish

good morning!(here is actually at midnight though)
9:11 am
Jinjiru

Oh, morning... It's 18:15 here in Moscow :)
9:12 am
purewish

around 12:15 am in tokyo!
9:13 am
zatrix

10:13 canada :P
9:13 am
Jennerster

3:11pm in uk
9:14 am
raerae7133

I want to visit tokyo
9:14 am
purewish

quite fun, but not today...;; it's raining right now
9:15 am
raerae7133

it's snowing here
9:15 am
raerae7133

rain > snow
9:15 am
haZe

finished :)
9:15 am
jojomnky

i'll be in the bahamas in a week
9:15 am
haZe

(1 50% guess)
9:16 am
purewish

snowing...in march...^^;
9:16 am
raerae7133

yes. snowing in march. Welcome to Minnesota!
9:16 am
evanonut

blue skies and sunshine here
9:17 am
Jinjiru

We have had sun all day today and +2C :)
9:17 am
raerae7133

It snowed on Monday too. There's about 7 inches (18cm) of snow on the ground right now
9:18 am
raerae7133

solved the puzzle by the way
9:18 am
evanonut

supposed to snow tonight though :-(
9:18 am
purewish

i'm working on it for hours
9:18 am
purewish

T-T
9:18 am
jhiner

umm
9:18 am
jhiner

so it wont let me use my 13 character pass
9:19 am
jhiner

it let me put it in
9:19 am
jhiner

but then when i went to log in, it kicked
9:19 am
purewish

too much snow in this winter
9:21 am
raerae7133

I like snow. I just don't like driving on snowy roads
9:23 am
purewish

i guess so, even i never droven by myself
9:23 am
Jinjiru

we have a LOT of snow, more than any previous year (in my memory) smth like this: http://www.retrobox.ru/images/content/carinsn
ow.jpg
9:23 am
Jinjiru

(no space in 'carinsnow'
9:23 am
jojomnky

global warming
9:24 am
purewish

agree
9:24 am
Jinjiru

it was last year april but this year there's much more...
9:27 am
purewish

i've never seen snow like in the picture
9:28 am
Jinjiru

purewish - it's a bit dirty but it's real :)
9:28 am
Jinjiru

it was 1st april 2005, this year we have more
9:28 am
purewish

i see
9:32 am
redguy

Wow this thing goes down like a house of cards once you get a seven in the mix.
9:33 am
evanonut

elusive stinking 7
9:33 am
raerae7133

redguy, yes. 7s are the key
9:33 am
purewish

oh, 7
9:33 am
raerae7133

well, so are 1-8 and 9, but you know
9:34 am
evanonut

1
9:34 am
purewish

anyway i'm giving up, time to go home!
9:34 am
evanonut

1's are coming along just fine
9:34 am
purewish

still in the office til midnight T-T
9:41 am
jojomnky

wow that was some crazy logic i just used to find that 7
9:42 am
dplass

i have no 7s
9:42 am
bex777

i have none either
9:43 am
dplass

yes you do - bex777 :P
9:43 am
bex777

lol
9:43 am
zatrix

theres always this point which i get to which completely stumps me, then liek half an hour later im lik "OH"...argh
9:44 am
evanonut

xactly zatrix
9:44 am
zatrix

i havent been able to come up with a sure way of reaching the "OH" moment quicker tho :(
9:45 am
evanonut

i think the key is walking away a bit
9:45 am
zatrix

i do this in the morning paper sometimes and it hard to walk away when you're trying to be "15 minutes or less > genious" lol
9:45 am
evanonut

usually it ends up i have something pencilled that shouldn't have been
9:47 am
manic

this is cool - are there any other good sudoku sites out there?
9:47 am
evanonut

shazaaam, i just placed a 7
9:48 am
nerd-core

hey everyone, just signed up
9:48 am
bex777

hiya!!!
9:48 am
zatrix

nerd-core.....that the best name you could choose? lol
9:48 am
jojomnky

manic try websudoku
9:48 am
nerd-core

haha
9:48 am
M3

Manic, http://www.timesonline.co.uk/section/0,,23509
,00.html
9:49 am
nerd-core

i like www.miniclip.com/sudoku/sudoku.htm
9:49 am
jojomnky

i like this one the best but i wish the puzzles would happen 2 times a day
9:50 am
manic

thanks - i'll check them out - can i print from anywhere?
9:50 am
nerd-core

you can print from miniclip, but i've never tried it
9:52 am
Jennerster

i guessing u an pobably screen dump it
9:52 am
manic

True, but it would be kinda ugly :)
9:53 am
zatrix

not if you PNG it :P
9:54 am
zatrix

maybe apply a few brightness/contrast filters before saving, then you can print b/w
9:54 am
nerd-core

that sounds like a bit too much work...
9:55 am
zatrix

its not, just depends how BADLY you want it done thats all :), its all relative right?
9:55 am
manic

this puzzle seems kinda hard! has anyone seen the hard puzzles on this site? they must be impossible!
9:55 am
nerd-core

this one is tough, its taking me a while...
9:55 am
manic

I wonder how they grade them
9:55 am
zatrix

i remember when sudoku puzzles just showed up, i wrote a java app to solve them, too bad i dont have it with me now :P
9:56 am
evanonut

ohweeee
9:56 am
evanonut

j'ai finit
9:57 am
bex777

i think this is harder than yesterday
9:57 am
jayhav

for sure. the 7 and 8s kill you
9:57 am
manic

Maybe they want to keep us a long time on the site :)
10:00 am
manic

Anyone else come here from 37 signals blog?
10:00 am
bex777

eh?
10:00 am
zatrix

downloadsquad!!!
10:02 am
manic

Oh well, I am giving up. It is too hard for me! I will try again tomorrow - see you guys :)
10:04 am
jojomnky

yay all done no guessing!
10:17 am
dplass

no guessing?!
10:17 am
dplass

augh
10:22 am
Dr_God

I just wanted to welcome all the players who came from Download Squad. Welcome!
10:22 am
zatrix

thanks :)
10:24 am
Ukodus

ditto.... can I have a 7 please?
10:25 am
dplass

Dr_God: please for to add [sic] a 'clear all pencil marks' button and a 'clear all ' button.
10:25 am
Dr_God

A 'clear all' button is coming soon
10:26 am
danfeinberg

hint me!!
10:26 am
zatrix

also seeing which number you added last would be helpful
10:27 am
Ukodus

well that sux... just went to how to play and then back..... all my work gone.... (and yes I know there's a save button)
10:28 am
Dr_God

Auto-save is coming soon too. ;)
10:29 am
MichMetz

I don't think I would like auto save. I save then guess a few. If it doesn't work out, I go back to my last saved point:-(
10:29 am
zatrix

lol that defeats the point of the puzzle lol
10:30 am
Dr_God

The 'save' feature isn't being killed. So you'll still be able to take a "snapshot" of the puzzle and revert back to that spot.
10:31 am
MichMetz

Ok, thanks.
10:35 am
dplass

777777777
10:36 am
Kestrel

Yay! All finished.
10:37 am
danfeinberg

hint me!
10:37 am
dplass

hit me
10:38 am
danreed121

starting over
10:40 am
synkipate

Hey all
10:43 am
dplass

no guessing?!!!
10:44 am
Cool Hero

what i must do?
10:45 am
synkipate

click on a box, and select a number which u think is corrct
10:47 am
bzikofski

i had 8 numbers in a row, and i was staring for a long time looking for solution.. ;)
10:48 am
TheZikes

woohoo! done
10:49 am
murz

i was having two empty spaces left, then realised i may have to start over :'(
10:49 am
synkipate

hehe the charm of the game
10:49 am
Christopher

Dr_God, Just a thought ... it might be nice to have a chat annoucement when people finish the puzzle.
10:50 am
dplass

hate this
10:51 am
TheZikes

thank you whoever it was that mentioned Simple Sudoku, that program's great for learning some of the more advanced concepts
10:54 am
murz

is there any easier way to clear all spaces at once?
10:55 am
jeresig

murz: not yet
10:55 am
TheZikes

I made a greasemonkey script for that
10:55 am
TheZikes

if you have GM & Firefox
10:57 am
murz

i have greasemonkey enabled. can you tell me the script please?
10:57 am
TheZikes

it's at: http://tinyurl.com/zf6xh
10:58 am
TheZikes

it adds four clearing options to the User Script Commands menu, and you can hold down on ctrl+alt or ctrl+shift to pencilmark entire rows or columns
10:59 am
bzikofski

hoooray done
10:59 am
bzikofski

i should say it was fairly simple
10:59 am
TheZikes

definitely easier than the last two
10:59 am
agar

No sevens... Only one eight.... :-(
10:59 am
jeresig

agar: yeah, I only just got my first 7
11:01 am
murz

thezikes: thanks!
11:02 am
TheZikes

no problem! lemme know if you find any bugs with it :)
11:12 am
Limer

Victory!
11:12 am
Limer

Rank me, baby!
11:31 am
agar

My first 7, yeah!!!
11:32 am
fuser

f--k
11:39 am
agar

Done!!!
11:46 am
Krys10

Ooh, I like Christopher's suggestion about having a fireworks announcement for people when they finish! Especially since there's no list published when the puzzle turns over, so we can't see who played, how many people finished, etc.
12:00 pm
twofisted

done
12:11 pm
usagi

how did you get your first 7 ?
12:16 pm
usagi

man, I finally got a 7...and then it's a house of cards :)
12:21 pm
xcezx

ummm...
12:22 pm
usagi

all that for 2 points :)
12:22 pm
tchansen

I got my seven by accident - I was trying to mark the possibility for a 2 and forgot to hold down the shift button. The only one left was the seven.
12:23 pm
usagi

I went through every square and marked all possibilities.....and then it took a long time to grind my way down to getting a 7
12:36 pm
essuu

done at last. :-)
12:37 pm
tchansen

Fin.
12:37 pm
tchansen

How do you change the difficulty level?
12:39 pm
The Wac

you don't
12:42 pm
Chaos

I am so totally awesome!!!!
12:46 pm
evanadine

*ugh* i finished yesterdays much faster than todays...this one is just stumping me left + right!
12:50 pm
Danno

took me about the same, I had to make 1 guess on yesterdays, no guesses today
12:50 pm
Danno

lack of 7's and 8's is frustrating
12:52 pm
mamabear

Hi evanadine!!!! how are you doing?
12:53 pm
brainwidth

Done.
12:53 pm
evanadine

well, i had chipotle for lunch, so i can feel my arteries clogging...and i am totally stuck on this puzzle today...
but other than that, im good!
you??
12:53 pm
mamabear

I am eating chipotle as we speak!!!! A chicken & rice burrito!!!!
12:54 pm
evanadine

i got the 3 chicken soft tacos......
MMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmm
12:57 pm
mamabear

Just thought I'd try to attack this thing for a few minutes....... so different than Babble!!! But it is addictive as well - I never tried sudoku before this.
12:58 pm
evanadine

id tried it, but only ever easy levels...my brain just doesnt work this way!!
12:59 pm
hurshy

ohhh cecilia, i'm down on my knees, i'm beggin' you please to come home...
1:00 pm
hurshy

hi mama, evanadine :)
1:00 pm
mamabear

hi hurshy!!!! fancy meeting you here!
1:00 pm
hurshy

lol
1:02 pm
evanadine

afternoon hurshy :)
1:02 pm
hurshy

afternoon
1:10 pm
bex777

hiya everyone
1:10 pm
hurshy

bex!!! :)
1:10 pm
bex777

hiya!!!!!
1:10 pm
mamabear

back to work for me!!! see yas later maybe! have fun...
1:10 pm
hurshy

bye mama
1:10 pm
bex777

bye mama
1:10 pm
bex777

how u doin hurshy???
1:11 pm
hurshy

fine, how are you bex?
1:11 pm
bex777

im fine thanks i have just been dancing!!
1:11 pm
hurshy

i know :)
1:11 pm
hurshy

i was in babble when you left to go dance
1:11 pm
bex777

oh yea i remember!!!
1:11 pm
hurshy

what type of dancing do you do?
1:12 pm
bex777

ballet tap and jazz and cheerleading
1:12 pm
hurshy

wow, that is a lot
1:13 pm
bex777

so have u finished the puzle?
1:13 pm
hurshy

i never did anything like that, i'm very uncoordinated
1:13 pm
hurshy

no, not yet
1:13 pm
evanadine

man, weve got dancers all over the place, dont we?!
:D
1:13 pm
hurshy

we do, who else?
1:14 pm
bex777

unless u count or cheerleading on babble!!!
1:15 pm
evanadine

i teach!
1:15 pm
hurshy

oh, and schro teaches dance too, right?
1:15 pm
hurshy

lol bex :)
1:16 pm
hurshy

i did some swing dancing in college, though
1:20 pm
Pocketmole

Hi Everybody!
Is there...ummm...a way to clear the whole board? I've messed it up totally and want to start over, but don't have time to remove each of my numbers and "markers" individually.
I found the "Expert" grid the other day 'way easier than this "Medium" one! :/
1:20 pm
wwd

no... there isn't yet
1:20 pm
hurshy

have you saved, pocket? if not just hit refresh
1:20 pm
hurshy

otherwise clear manually :(
1:21 pm
bex777

has anyone actually finished todays puzzle?
1:21 pm
Pocketmole

Yeah, I saved at a stage when I thought I was ok, but keep getting the dreaded "red screen"! So I must have made a mistake even further back than my last save :( :(
1:22 pm
hurshy

oh, so sorry pocket
1:22 pm
bex777

i have stopped no numbers will go anywhere
1:23 pm
hurshy

come on bex - i'm doing ok, and you're better at it than me, so don't give up
1:24 pm
Pocketmole

There, that wasn
1:25 pm
evanadine

FINISHED!! :D
1:25 pm
bex777

7 is my lucky number and there are none so i am very bad today(thats my thought)
1:25 pm
hurshy

see bex, someone did it :)
1:25 pm
evanadine

i have finished all of them this week, but i have yet to do so without making a guess...heh
1:25 pm
bex777

well done!!!! i thought it was impossible
1:25 pm
pshaw

Funny.... I found 9 of them. (kidding...)
1:25 pm
Pocketmole

(oops)
That wasn't so bad - I've cleared the board. **takes deep breath and sings** "Starting all over again is going to be rough...."
1:27 pm
Atalante

*pops in from babble* I did it!
1:27 pm
bex777

babble or sudoku?
1:28 pm
hurshy

no list?
1:29 pm
bex777

i have just cleared the whole thing and am starting again
1:30 pm
Atalante

both LOL
1:30 pm
hurshy

atalante too smart
1:30 pm
bex777

WELL DONE
1:30 pm
bex777

i have done niether
1:31 pm
hurshy

don't worry bex, you get the same amount of points however fast or slow you go :)
1:31 pm
Atalante

sorry hurshy *grins* and I actually thought the sudoku was easier than babble today!
1:31 pm
bex777

but when my mam gets in she will want to go on babble so i wont get to finish :(
1:32 pm
wwd

can you actually finish babble?
1:32 pm
hurshy

i think you're right about that atalante, i'm not having too much trouble with this, i'm just slow
1:32 pm
bex777

i have finished babble 3 times
1:33 pm
wwd

i thought that with babble, you just kept going until you couldn't find any more words
1:33 pm
bex777

i am having bother with this one today i dont no y but i find the harder ones easier
1:33 pm
hurshy

no, wwd, there are a finite number of words each day. today there are 196.
1:34 pm
wwd

nice
1:34 pm
wwd

does it say that on the puzzle?
1:34 pm
hurshy

it does if you are a pro
1:34 pm
hurshy

otherwise you can just ask a pro, or look at the stats list
1:34 pm
bex777

ok i am gonna write the hole thing on paper
1:36 pm
Atalante

who's your mum bex777? we need to start a babble family tree!
1:36 pm
hurshy

done!
1:37 pm
hurshy

shoot, that only used up half an hour of my day
1:37 pm
bex777

she hasnt got her own settin she sometimes uses mine!!!
1:37 pm
bex777

WELL DONE HURSHY!!!
1:37 pm
Atalante

oh! lol :)
1:37 pm
hurshy

:) thanks, bex
1:37 pm
hurshy

you should make her get her own account, bex
1:37 pm
Atalante

and yes - well done hurshy!!
1:37 pm
hurshy

thanks atalante
1:38 pm
bex777

i no but then i woulnt get a turn!!!!
1:39 pm
hurshy

why, what's the difference, bex?
1:39 pm
bex777

confused???
1:39 pm
hurshy

and don't you get annoyed that you don't get to find all the words yourself?
1:40 pm
hurshy

i mean, whether she uses your account or her own, how would that affect how much time she spends on babble?
1:40 pm
bex777

yes but i do need help sometimes
1:40 pm
hurshy

that's what we're there for :)
1:40 pm
bex777

i get all the easy ones then she helps me with the rest
1:40 pm
bex777

lol!!!
1:40 pm
hurshy

that is like me and my little sister with crossword puzzles
1:40 pm
hurshy

she needs my help to finish them
1:41 pm
bex777

my mam cant do sudoku though so thats good
1:41 pm
hurshy

lol, it's always nice to be better than your parents at something
1:41 pm
bex777

i no!!! my dad has his own babble thing but he never uses it
1:42 pm
hurshy

what's his screen name?
1:42 pm
bex777

i dont no i will have to find out!!!
1:43 pm
hurshy

you guys are going to need another computer if you all babble :)
1:43 pm
bex777

i no!! my dad has a computer butit is very old so goes really slow
1:44 pm
hurshy

bex, i love how you always seem so enthusiastic about everything. it makes me feel happy.
1:44 pm
bex777

awwww thanks!!!
1:44 pm
hurshy

yw :)
1:45 pm
hurshy

it probably makes you a good cheerleader :)
1:45 pm
bex777

my uncle babbles too!!!
1:45 pm
bex777

thanks!!!
1:45 pm
hurshy

wow, a whole babbling clan.
1:45 pm
hurshy

i have over 30 cousins. if i could get some of them to babble, we could have quite the party
1:45 pm
bex777

his name is bongoa!!! dont ask very strange
1:46 pm
bex777

i only have 4 cousins and i am an only child
1:46 pm
hurshy

i have 2 sisters but they don't babble
1:46 pm
hurshy

i wonder if i could get my mom to babble
1:46 pm
bex777

none of my cousins do either
1:46 pm
hurshy

she likes sudoku, maybe she would do this site at least
1:47 pm
hurshy

only, she doesn't like people, so she'd probably get annoyed by the chatterbox
1:47 pm
bex777

yea probably
1:47 pm
Dr_God

Rule #1 of Irons Sudoku and Babble: Share your addiction with all family members. ;)
1:47 pm
hurshy

dr_g, i wanted to make another suggestion
1:47 pm
bex777

lol!!! my grandma is like that she doesnt like people!!
1:47 pm
wwd

ha... funny dr. g
1:48 pm
hurshy

the double scroll bar... i don't like it. i mean that there is one bar for the chatterbox and another for the site as a whole.
1:48 pm
hurshy

on the other hand, bex, my mom is bored and needs more stuff to do, so i might get her roped in anyway.
1:48 pm
Dr_God

hurshy-
That's here to stay, and will soon be coming to Babble.
1:48 pm
hurshy

oh dear, i like babble the way it is.
1:49 pm
bex777

if the chatter box is coming to babble where do the words go?
1:49 pm
wwd

is it an iframe?
1:49 pm
Dr_God

I don't see the downside to have the chat log in its own scrollable window
1:49 pm
hurshy

it's harder to use that way
1:49 pm
Dr_God

How so?
1:50 pm
hurshy

if i want to scroll all the way down, i have to move the site bar as well as the chatterbox bar
1:50 pm
Dr_God

The two are independent of each other. I don't follow.
1:50 pm
Atalante

Dr_G - while you're at it, could you put the word list in a scrollable window?
1:50 pm
Dr_God

Atalante-
That will be done also
1:51 pm
hurshy

i know but if the site bar is at the top, and i just move the chatterbox bar, eventually it goes off the screen and i can't get all the way to the bottom
1:51 pm
bex777

im confused
1:51 pm
Atalante

woohoo! really? omg! Dr_G I could hug you!
1:51 pm
hurshy

(don't worry bex)
1:52 pm
Dr_God

hurshy-
It sounds like you need to change the resolution of your monitor. You might be at 800x600. That's hampering you. ;)
1:52 pm
hurshy

how do i do that?
1:52 pm
Dr_God

You should be able to see the bottom of the chat log without having to scroll the main site
1:52 pm
Dr_God

Go to Start > Control Panels > Display
1:52 pm
Atalante

in your control panel, hurshy. under screen I think
1:52 pm
Dr_God

Assuming you're on a Windows machine
1:52 pm
bex777

does this affect me cause i dont understand?
1:52 pm
Atalante

duh. display
1:53 pm
hurshy

what resolution would you suggest
1:53 pm
Dr_God

1024
1:53 pm
hurshy

i went all the way to the most and it was too small to read
1:53 pm
Dr_God

or higher if you have a decent sized monitor
1:53 pm
Dr_God

yeah, the max is usually a bit too small
1:54 pm
hurshy

wow, even this is kinda small after being used to the other
1:54 pm
hurshy

but it does put the whole chatter scroll bar within the window
1:54 pm
Atalante

bex, no it doesnt. its just techie stuff!
1:54 pm
Dr_God

it may take a few minutes to get used to, but your web browsing experience will be much better from now on
1:54 pm
wwd

so true...
1:54 pm
hurshy

i don't know... i feel like this could cause my eyesight to deteriorate further :)
1:55 pm
Atalante

hurshy, you'll get used to it. at least give it a try for a while
1:55 pm
hurshy

okey dokey
1:56 pm
hurshy

ok, i will now attempt to recruit mother
1:56 pm
bex777

the good thing about babble is u can ask for help but u cant relly with sudoku can u?
1:56 pm
bex777

wooo!! go hurshey!!!
1:57 pm
hurshy

dr_g is going to change it so that we can see the puzzle after we finish, so then we can help you
1:57 pm
bex777

oooo good
1:57 pm
bex777

i have no 7's on this puzzle yet
1:58 pm
hurshy

dr_g, any eta on that feature
1:58 pm
evanadine

yay!!
1:58 pm
hurshy

unsuccessful attempt, mother not interested.
1:59 pm
hurshy

she should know better, i'm the one who introduced her to paying bills online and the discover card, clearly i have good ideas.
1:59 pm
bex777

o well her loss!!!
2:00 pm
hurshy

i have to go now, my husband needs to use the computer. good luck bex!!!
2:00 pm
bex777

okay see u tomoorow!!! bye!!!
2:00 pm
bex777

have u finished babble?
2:01 pm
hurshy

yes
2:01 pm
hurshy

i'll be back on later if you need babble clues
2:01 pm
bex777

okay see u then!!!
2:14 pm
lak

no 7s and only one 8, yet it's a medium? craziness :/
2:15 pm
bex777

i thought yesterdays was easier than this
2:17 pm
guerro

my head hurts
2:17 pm
bex777

mine too im getting no where
2:17 pm
EvilBernd

yeah - they removed the 7s...
2:17 pm
bex777

i no
2:18 pm
bex777

its too hard
2:19 pm
EvilBernd

i think i have just found one
2:19 pm
lak

i'd like a "check my work" option, to tell me if i placed a piece wrong
2:19 pm
bex777

i have managed to put 2 7's in
2:19 pm
lak

or a 'back up" option, i guess
2:19 pm
lak

wow
2:20 pm
lak

impressive
2:20 pm
bex777

that would be great!!!
2:22 pm
Keith

i solved it
2:22 pm
bex777

WELL DONE
2:23 pm
EvilBernd

well - 9 hours left - perhaps if i take a nap...
2:23 pm
Keith

thanks
2:23 pm
bex777

i will need more than 9 hours to finish this!!!
2:24 pm
Keith

is there a way to check your answer?
2:24 pm
EvilBernd

count the numbers and how often they appear
2:24 pm
bex777

have u filled in all the boxes??? cause if u have it should tel u u r finished
2:25 pm
Keith

ah ok
2:25 pm
Keith

I printed it and did it on paper
2:26 pm
bex777

well unfortunatly u now have to type it all in
2:27 pm
Keith

yeah bummer.
2:28 pm
Keith

does everyone see each others progress somehow?
2:29 pm
EvilBernd

well - the guys/gals whining here probably hasn't solved it yet
2:31 pm
allanx2000

would be nice if the "possible numbers" would clear themselves once you enter a number in that contrdicts it....
2:31 pm
allanx2000

would be nice if the "possible numbers" would clear themselves once you enter a number in that contrdicts it....

2:31 pm
EvilBernd

well its about using your brain, so why ease it??
2:32 pm
knib2

and this way i can use those numbers for whatever i want, applying logic to it would prevent that
2:33 pm
allanx2000

ok... suit yourself
2:33 pm
bex777

so is anyone else nearly done?
2:33 pm
EvilBernd

not counting the 7s and 8s i would say yes :-)
2:33 pm
allanx2000

wow... all that for 2pts...
2:33 pm
allanx2000

wow... all that for 2pts...
took me 3 hrs...
2:34 pm
guerro

not me, i have too many where i have narrowed it donw to 2 boxes but cant figure out which one
2:34 pm
bex777

WELL DONE
2:34 pm
lak

that's heinous
2:35 pm
allanx2000

now... can som1 tyell me why the expert problem took only 20 minutes?
2:35 pm
bex777

i no same here yesterdays puzzle was easier!!
2:39 pm
lak

screw it, maybe tomorrow's medium will take minutes, not hours :/
2:40 pm
bex777

Yey finished!!!!
2:40 pm
Anj

Bit of a beastie??
2:40 pm
bex777

yes took me ages!!!!
2:40 pm
lola

Anj...look...no 7's! : /
2:41 pm
Anj

Doesn't look very friendly, does it? : /
2:41 pm
bex777

hiya lola!!! just starting?
2:41 pm
EvilBernd

grats bex
2:42 pm
lola


Um, did my last message post?
2:42 pm
bex777

oh right i get u now!!! ur just starting
2:42 pm
bex777

oh well off to babble see u all later
2:43 pm
lola

Aah, that's better...my chat log froze : /
2:43 pm
Anj

Was it about the lack of 7s?
2:44 pm
guerro

i have 2 rows and 1 column that lack only 2 numbers but the missing numbers can still go in either spot in each row
2:46 pm
guerro

and still no 7s
2:50 pm
Phox

Finished my first puzzle here
2:54 pm
fherrera

hard !
2:57 pm
greenlightguy

that was fun!
2:57 pm
greenlightguy

makes me feel soooo smart when I get it all done
3:00 pm
EvilBernd

i just placed a random 7 where it could be and am for a contradiction now, while i fill the filed
3:00 pm
EvilBernd

*field
3:00 pm
EvilBernd

add a "waiting" somewhere in there
3:01 pm
EvilBernd

k - solved it
3:02 pm
EvilBernd

my brain feels ashamed
3:04 pm
joshfallon

Done! Just picked up on a good strategy to try if you get stuck...
3:05 pm
atmo

let
3:05 pm
atmo

let
3:05 pm
atmo

let's have it, then
3:05 pm
joshfallon

If you have 2 squares in a row, column or box that both have only 2 possibilities, and they are the same #s (like 2,7)
3:06 pm
joshfallon

then nothing else in that respective row, column, or box can be those #s
3:06 pm
joshfallon

maybe thats obvious, but it just helped me tremendously
3:06 pm
atmo

thanks
3:06 pm
joshfallon

hope it helps! does that make sense?
3:07 pm
atmo

totally
3:07 pm
Kemayo

Obvious... but easy to not notice when you've whittled possiblities down to that level.
3:07 pm
joshfallon

yeah, i can't believe i didn't realize it sooner
3:09 pm
joshfallon

so if you have 3 squares remaining in a box marked in green with (2,7), (2,7), and (2,5,7,8) then you can pull off the 2 and 7 from the last square
3:09 pm
joshfallon

it doesn't always yield a final number right away, but it certainly helps the process of elimination
3:10 pm
meredith0715

Does anyone else's screen blink?
3:10 pm
joshfallon

is it taboo to talk strategy? :)
3:11 pm
hurshy

meredith - it may help to upgrade from firefox 1.0 to 1.5
3:11 pm
hurshy

and, i don't think so, josh!
3:11 pm
hurshy

meredith is one of my favorite names, meredith
3:12 pm
lola

Hi hursh : )
3:12 pm
meredith0715

Thank you!
3:12 pm
hurshy

hey lola
3:12 pm
hurshy

you finish this, lola?
3:12 pm
meredith0715

and thank you for the tip
3:12 pm
meredith0715

I'll try that
3:12 pm
hurshy

yw meredith :)
3:13 pm
lola

LOL! You are kidding, right??!! : /
3:13 pm
hurshy

no... does that mean you haven't?
3:13 pm
hurshy

or that it's so easy that of course you have?
3:13 pm
lola

I think we can safely say that I'm gonna be here for a while : )
3:14 pm
hurshy

i can't wait until dr_g makes it so we can see our done puzzle so we can help each other
3:14 pm
lola

Have you finished it hurshy?
3:14 pm
hurshy

yes
3:15 pm
hurshy

i found it easier than yesterday
3:15 pm
hurshy

but i have been practicing on another site in the meantime
3:15 pm
lola

Ooo, you smart little maths-type person! ; )
3:15 pm
jellyzero

im new to this
3:15 pm
hurshy

i'm slow at it though
3:15 pm
Shaiman

how is it that they deterimine difficulty? this one seems much harder than some of the expert ones
3:15 pm
hurshy

i get there eventually but not fast
3:16 pm
hurshy

shaiman-nobody knows :)
3:16 pm
lola

yeah, me to hurshy. I plod along carefully : )
3:16 pm
hurshy

i'm fast at babble
3:17 pm
hurshy

jellyzero - many of us are! my first sudoku was 3 days ago. :)
3:18 pm
lola

hursh, did you do this one without having to guess?
3:18 pm
jellyzero

haha good, because I feel stupid!
3:18 pm
hurshy

yes lola
3:19 pm
Jordan

I guessed for the first time yesterday..
3:19 pm
Jordan

<-- is ashamed
3:19 pm
kardante

i am starting
3:19 pm
hurshy

i had to guess yesterday too
3:19 pm
lola

*whispers* I did to jordan ; )
3:19 pm
hurshy

i haven't talked to anyone who DIDN'T guess yesterday
3:20 pm
Jordan

well, that makes me feel a little better :)
3:20 pm
hurshy

:)
3:21 pm
guerro

its hard trying to see 3 and 4 step logic
3:22 pm
Jordan

that's why I don't play chess :)
3:23 pm
hurshy

i don't play chess either... i like games to be relaxing
3:23 pm
hurshy

this can be relaxing, you just have to use the red and green numbers
3:23 pm
Jiraya

i didn't guess yesterday
3:23 pm
hurshy

oh, well done, jiraya!
3:23 pm
jellyzero

i dont have any red or green numbers!?
3:23 pm
Jiraya

it was hard though, much harder than the day before
3:23 pm
Jordan

jellyzero: hold ctrl or alt while clicking a number
3:24 pm
jellyzero

does red mean it's wrong?
3:25 pm
hurshy

red number means you know it can't be that
3:25 pm
hurshy

red background means something is wrong
3:25 pm
jellyzero

ok i get it
3:25 pm
meredith0715

does it mean that the number doesn't go there or that there is a duplicate?
3:26 pm
jellyzero

i didnt have any red background
3:26 pm
Shaiman

alright.. finally made a break and solved it!
3:26 pm
hurshy

that there is a duplicate
3:26 pm
meredith0715

Ok, ty
3:26 pm
dplass

I'M MAD
3:26 pm
dplass

>:-(
3:26 pm
hurshy

lol dplass
3:26 pm
hurshy

congrats, shaiman
3:27 pm
Shaiman

that was certainly one of the most difficult ones i've done yet
3:30 pm
meredith0715

ugh, Im starting all over lol
3:31 pm
acheekymonkey

is there a way to clear all?
3:31 pm
hurshy

cheeky, if you have not saved, simply refresh
3:32 pm
hurshy

if you have saved - you must clear manually (but dr_g is working on it)
3:32 pm
acheekymonkey

k, thanks
3:32 pm
Jordan

there's a Greasmonkey script if you have Firefox
3:32 pm
acheekymonkey

still on Safari... :)
3:35 pm
Assman

I suck!
3:35 pm
Jordan

I'm finally getting the hang of these red numbers
3:35 pm
hurshy

kramer?
3:35 pm
Assman

I thought sudoku was some kind of sushi!
3:36 pm
kneestabber

This supid puzzle is driving me nuts! lol
3:36 pm
Jordan

:D
3:37 pm
meredith0715

is this like a practical joke and there really is no solution??? lol
3:37 pm
Jordan

heh
3:37 pm
Assman

nah, u just suck meredith
3:37 pm
hurshy

no, there's a solution, i finished it
3:37 pm
Kemayo

Done!
3:37 pm
Kemayo

It really all falls into place after you isolate a 7.
3:37 pm
acheekymonkey

no sevens and only one 8 is hard
3:37 pm
kneestabber

Tell me where a 7 goes! lol jk
3:37 pm
meredith0715

WOW thanks Assman, you are such an assman
3:38 pm
Assman

i wear my name proudly
3:40 pm
gymir

Is there a way to clear the puzzle ?
3:40 pm
Jordan

shake it like an etch-a-sketch ;) (in other words, not yet)
3:40 pm
acheekymonkey

lol
3:41 pm
acheekymonkey

shake it like a polaroid
3:41 pm
gymir

:-)
3:41 pm
gymir

manual clear it is then
3:44 pm
bekee

omg that was hard.
3:44 pm
Keith

good puzzle
3:45 pm
bekee

i'd love to see a clickstream analysis of how people arrive at the solution :)
3:46 pm
gymir

In that case, you would want my aberrant clicks out
3:46 pm
Anj

...blindfold and pin } /
3:46 pm
hurshy

lol anj
3:46 pm
lola

I'm going to have to start guessing : /
3:47 pm
Keith

why lola
3:47 pm
guerro

how many of those who have finished had to guess ?
3:47 pm
hurshy

i did not guess
3:47 pm
shields8

no lola...no guessing necessary
3:47 pm
Keith

i didnt
3:47 pm
Anj

Nooo i've placed 14 logically so far...
3:47 pm
guerro

i am to a point where I have 2 posibilities for just about every number left
3:48 pm
lola

I've done 12
3:48 pm
Keith

guerro, if they are in the same 3x3 block that helps
3:48 pm
acheekymonkey

once you get a seven it's all downhill :)
3:48 pm
guerro

most are side by side posibilities
3:48 pm
Keith

you can rule out those numbers from any remaining blanks
3:48 pm
jellyzero

I DID IT!!
3:48 pm
jellyzero

woooo!
3:49 pm
Jordan

almost there
3:49 pm
lola

How the *"&! do you get a 7??
3:50 pm
k2skier

3 + 4
3:50 pm
acheekymonkey

you have to fill in most of one box to get the seven
3:50 pm
lola

: P
3:50 pm
guerro

the most i have in one box is 5
3:51 pm
hurshy

k2skier should be named cheekymonkey!
3:51 pm
acheekymonkey

DoNE! After the 7 it's all drudgery!!! ;)
3:52 pm
acheekymonkey

he is cheeky! eee!
3:53 pm
hurshy

poor lola
3:53 pm
lola

:' (
3:53 pm
Jordan

ah, crap.. pwnd
3:53 pm
shields8

nice...finished it in 23 minutes
3:54 pm
guerro

23 mins ???????????
3:54 pm
Limer

Took me about 32 minutes
3:54 pm
shields8

yup...started at 3:30
3:54 pm
hurshy

took me about half an hour too
3:54 pm
Limer

Part of that was reading how to "pencil" in numbers
3:55 pm
shields8

lol....me too
3:55 pm
lola

hursh, do you use red and green numbers or just red?
3:55 pm
Limer

Anyone do these on a handheld device?
3:56 pm
k2skier

i do, i have a Palm Tungsten E
3:56 pm
TP17

I just use green
3:56 pm
shields8

limer...yeah
3:56 pm
k2skier

you have to manually enter the puzzles though
3:56 pm
hurshy

well, lola, i find it helps to put in as many red as i can, and then, like yesterday, i used green to plot out what would happen with a guess
3:56 pm
shields8

on my cell phone
3:56 pm
TP17

You really shouldn't have to use more than one color
3:56 pm
Jordan

grr.. looks like I have to backtrack
3:56 pm
TP17

unless you do what Hurshy does..... that's a good idea
3:57 pm
lola

aah, that's a good idea hursh! : )
3:57 pm
Jordan

y'know, the feature I want is a "rewind" button that'll undo all of your steps until the point where you screwed up
3:57 pm
Thundercross

I'm using notepad. I made myself a little chart.
3:57 pm
Limer

I downloaded a free sudoku from an Aussie mate.
3:57 pm
hurshy

thundercross - do you not like the red and green numbers?
3:58 pm
shields8

on what platform limer?
3:58 pm
hurshy

all - you can also try www.websudoku.com
3:58 pm
shields8

or www.sudokuoftheday.com
3:58 pm
Jordan

well, I'm a go try to get some work done before I try to attempt this again
3:58 pm
Jordan

good luck, all
3:58 pm
Limer

Shileds8 - I am running a Zire 72. Palm OS 5
3:58 pm
Thundercross

The red and green numbers are too easy to clear.
3:58 pm
shields8

ah, i have OS 5, too
3:59 pm
shields8

how's it look on the Zire?
3:59 pm
hurshy

websudoku has as many as you want, instead of just one a day
3:59 pm
TP17

who rates these puzzles?
4:00 pm
shields8

i think it's automatic
4:00 pm
shields8

part of the algorithm that spits out the puzzles
4:00 pm
BigVee

A good way is to use only green but only put them in a box if the number can only go in 2 squares. That way you can see if the number controls a line or if 2 different numbers control 2 squares (no other number can go in those two squares) etc.
4:00 pm
TP17

I think it's wrong
4:00 pm
Limer

Looks awesome! Zire 72 has a 320X320 screen.
4:01 pm
Keith

19 minutes
4:01 pm
hurshy

THAT must be why al gore thought he invented the internet - because it uses so many algorithms.
4:01 pm
BigVee

Also if one of the greens gets covered that means it can only be the other green one.
4:01 pm
BigVee

Also if one of the greens gets covered that means it can only be the other green one.
4:01 pm
shields8

limer...any chance i could get that from you?
4:01 pm
shields8

or your friend?
4:02 pm
hurshy

nobody? i thought that was a good one...
4:02 pm
Limer

Trying to locate the link now. Have to go. Will be online tomorrow. I will see if I can get it for you. Later
4:03 pm
hurshy

torgone? surely you laugh at my joke...
4:05 pm
guerro

will the solution be posted tomorrow ?
4:05 pm
hurshy

yes, i think you'll be able to see it in the archives? see if you can see yesterday's.
4:08 pm
torgone

Man! Once you get that first 7, it's all downhill ..
4:08 pm
guerro

Man! thanks a lot!
4:08 pm
TP17

yeah, but it's a beeee-atch getting that first 7
4:08 pm
hurshy

torgone, torgone, did you laught at my joke at 4:01?
4:08 pm
lola

aaaaargh!!!!!
4:08 pm
Anj

I hear you babe : /
4:08 pm
hurshy

poor loly
4:09 pm
torgone

Oh, and *groan* algorithms!
4:09 pm
hurshy

:D
4:13 pm
torgone

Someone posted a hint earlier about when you have two spaces in a row, column, or group that can be only two numbers. Then, nothing else in that row, column, or group (respectively) can be those two numbers. That led me to getting the 6th number in a column, which gave me the 7 by default. Walk in the park from there ..
4:14 pm
torgone

I meant 8th number ..
4:15 pm
lola

but I have more than 2 numbers in most of the boxes : (
4:15 pm
guerro

me too
4:18 pm
vonesh

how was yesterday a medium-today was so much easier!
4:19 pm
BigVee

Nice to know I was of assitance... Now to solve it myself!
4:19 pm
chebuctonian

torgone - in how to play, there's a very useful link to a wikipedia article with a lot of different strategies
4:20 pm
TP17

just got my first 7!!!!
4:20 pm
lola

penny drops for lola....v..e..r..y....s..l..o.w..l..y....
4:21 pm
WareMan

7's would be great, but I'm aching just for an 8.
4:21 pm
hurshy

penny?
4:22 pm
lola

hursh, don't you say that? When you finally get something you say 'the penny drops'?
4:24 pm
hurshy

either a britishism or i just never heard it
4:24 pm
hurshy

sometimes we wait for "the other shoe" to drop...
4:24 pm
hurshy

but that's more like if you are expecting something bad
4:24 pm
Anj

My penny is distinctly defying gravity's pull at the moment } (
4:25 pm
hurshy

oooh, a hover-penny
4:25 pm
hurshy

forget sudoku, you can make millions with that anj
4:25 pm
hurshy

go on tour
4:25 pm
Anj

ha ha ha
4:25 pm
TP17

BINGO!
4:25 pm
chebuctonian

wOOt! done
4:25 pm
dom

were are you guys from?
4:25 pm
chebuctonian

so is there only one puzzle a day?
4:26 pm
TP17

Anybody want a hint?
4:26 pm
chebuctonian

dom: Halifax, NS, Canada
4:26 pm
Anj

*inlocks secret panel - reaches for 'nuke' button*
4:26 pm
TP17

And I promise not to tell where any numbers are
4:26 pm
lola

i meant about what tor said....don't know if I'm on the right track yet though : /
4:26 pm
cowbell

vancouver
4:26 pm
TP17

Pittsburgh here
4:26 pm
dom

thats cool
4:26 pm
TP17

The first 7 I got was somewhere in the three columns on the right
4:27 pm
dom

florida here
4:27 pm
hurshy

only one puzzle a day, but plenty of other sudoku on the web, eg www.websudoku.com
4:27 pm
chebuctonian

thanks, hurshy.
4:27 pm
batmn

how do you get that ridiculous flashing to stop!
4:28 pm
chebuctonian

are there days for evil puzzles?
4:28 pm
jhlipsey

there... finished my very first sodoku
4:28 pm
BigVee

batman: you on a firefox version prior to 1.5?
4:28 pm
hurshy

evil is called expert here, we had one 2 days ago
4:28 pm
batmn

yes
4:29 pm
BigVee

Thats your problem. Get the latest version.
4:29 pm
chebuctonian

cool... see you tomorrow :)
4:30 pm
batmn

thanks will do. On my parents computer and I didn't realize they were still on version 1.0!
4:30 pm
lola

yes! yes! YES!!! : D
4:30 pm
Keith

youre welcome torgone :)
4:30 pm
Aelis

No! No! Nooo!! D:
4:30 pm
guerro

you like that?
4:31 pm
dom

how old are you guys
4:31 pm
pshaw

Pi
4:31 pm
Anj

clears down for nth time : ' (
4:31 pm
hurshy

you got it, lola??
4:32 pm
lola

I did! : )
4:32 pm
hurshy

pshaw, you are 3.14152965358979323846 years old?
4:32 pm
Thundercross

Sheesh, I messed up big time. I have no idea where I messed up, or how long ago.
4:32 pm
hurshy

i'm amazed you can do sudoku at such a young age
4:33 pm
hurshy

congrats lola!!!!!
4:33 pm
Aelis

I'm new to this. I can't even finish my second line. I feel inadequate.
4:33 pm
hurshy

oops typo in pi.
4:33 pm
hurshy

9 comes before 2
4:33 pm
hurshy

aelis - it definitely gets easier the more you do
4:33 pm
lola

thanks hursh! Took me a bit longer than half an hour though : /
4:33 pm
Hanatori

Haha, Aelis, haha.
4:34 pm
hurshy

'sok lola - you get the same 2 points!
4:34 pm
Aelis

Thanks, I'm trying to overcome this evil thing. D:
4:34 pm
Aelis

Damn you, Zuri.
4:34 pm
Hanatori

*cough*
4:35 pm
Aelis

What is "cough" supposed to mean? >_> Anyway, for people who think I am insane, Hanatori's my "friend" whose name is Zuri. So I shall refer to her as Zuri from now on.
4:35 pm
pshaw

hurshy, Not only am I 355/113 years old, I'm also an incredible simulation.
4:35 pm
Hanatori

Shut up, Alice. Grr. By the way... how's your sudoku coming along...? XD
4:35 pm
hurshy

:) glad you appreciate math jokes, at any rate
4:35 pm
lola

lol, true hurshy : )
4:35 pm
Aelis

Not very well, my dear friend, not very well.
4:36 pm
Aelis

Do you get better at this with practice?
4:36 pm
Hanatori

Dear friend, indeed. *cough*
4:36 pm
BigRefT

yeah... 34 minutes :-)
4:36 pm
BigRefT

that was pretty tough
4:37 pm
seraphe

lmao
4:37 pm
hurshy

careful, seraphe, or it will be very uncomfortable to sit in future
4:37 pm
seraphe

O__O
4:37 pm
Aelis

Ooh, you just got burned, seraphe/Irene.
4:37 pm
Hanatori

XD I actually got that!
4:38 pm
Hanatori

OMG IRENE
4:38 pm
guerro

w00t got a 7!
4:38 pm
Aelis

OMG!!!!111 ._.
4:38 pm
seraphe

lmaooo alice
4:38 pm
Hanatori

Sure, don't give me any credit
4:38 pm
Aelis

You might want to be careful with that.
4:38 pm
Aelis

The laughing your ass off, I mean.
4:38 pm
seraphe

ok lmaoooo zuri xP
4:38 pm
seraphe

ok lmaoooo zuri xP
4:38 pm
seraphe

woahs double
4:39 pm
Hanatori

off off off off? Wow.
4:39 pm
rnarzisi

that was fun
4:39 pm
seraphe

are we all workin on the same puzzle x.x
4:39 pm
rnarzisi

how do you get a harder one?
4:39 pm
Aelis

well...my top rightmost box has an 8,9, and 4 automatically filled out...difficulty is medium
4:39 pm
rnarzisi

do they get more difficult as the week progresses?
4:39 pm
Hanatori

Yes.
4:40 pm
seraphe

nuhh diff puzzle, but i'm medium too
4:40 pm
rnarzisi

did this just go live on the 11th?
4:40 pm
Aelis

oh...that's too bad ._.
4:40 pm
guerro

got another 7 !
4:40 pm
Hanatori

That is indeed mine too
4:40 pm
hurshy

the difficulty level is random
4:40 pm
hurshy

the difficulty level is random
4:41 pm
Hanatori

That is indeed mine too
4:41 pm
hurshy

the difficulty level is random
everyone gets the same puzzle each day
4:41 pm
Hanatori

That is indeed mine too
4:41 pm
hurshy

the difficulty level is random
everyone gets the same puzzle each day
4:41 pm
guerro

damn another 7 w00t
4:41 pm
Hanatori

omg stupid thing
4:41 pm
Hanatori

to work now.
4:41 pm
hurshy

the difficulty level is random
everyone gets the same puzzle each day
4:41 pm
Aelis

Aha, thank you. YESIMDONEWITHTWOBOXES >:D
4:42 pm
hurshy

we all have the same puzzle i am pretty sure
4:42 pm
hurshy

oh, had some trouble with my chat there
4:45 pm
sandr

hey hurshy how,s life
4:45 pm
lola

Anj? How you doing babe?
4:46 pm
lola

Anj? How you doing babe?
4:46 pm
Anj

:'(
4:47 pm
hurshy

fine thanks, and you sandr?
4:48 pm
hurshy

my chat is still wonky though
4:48 pm
sandr

yeh just doing fine thanx just nipped over from babble to fill in the grid
4:50 pm
lola

Aww, I have to get some sleep now babe...but I left you mail : ) G'night, sweet dreams (((xx)))
4:51 pm
Anj

nite babe ((xx)) : ) Sweet dreams
4:52 pm
lola

'bye hurshy, see you tomorrow :)
4:52 pm
Aelis

I am terribly vexed by the one number that is messing up my entire puzzle. My impatience threatens to consume me whole, like a giant termite from the core of the earth! D:
4:52 pm
guerro

suh weeeet got 2 pts
4:52 pm
guerro

suh weeeet got 2 pts
4:52 pm
Hanatori

Very poetic.
4:53 pm
seraphe

lmao alice
4:53 pm
guerro

suh weeeet got 2 pts
4:53 pm
Aelis

Thank you. I was inspired by the ancient Japanese poets. You can see their influence in my eloquent speech.
4:53 pm
seraphe

guess who's got it going good? :D
4:53 pm
hurshy

wow, i am bowled away by your metaphor, aelis
4:53 pm
Hanatori

*cough*
4:53 pm
seraphe

lolsss
4:54 pm
Aelis

Yes, many before have told me of how deeplyl my portrayals of deformed insects affect them.
4:54 pm
seraphe

lmaoo x3
4:55 pm
Hanatori

And yet in real life you freak out a lot and make things a lot worse.
4:55 pm
Playwoman

My sudoku grid has only three 5s on it and lots of question marks. Is that the way today's puzzle is supposed to look?
4:56 pm
Aelis

Zuri...in real life, you flirt with Ted every day...do you see me bring that up? No. Please, return me with the same courtesy. :(
4:56 pm
seraphe

depends on yur difficulty...?
4:56 pm
Hanatori

Eh. You flirt with Jenny.
4:57 pm
Aelis

that joke ended in 7th grade.
4:57 pm
Hanatori

Which is pretty close to 8th.
4:57 pm
Aelis

Connection error? Dr_God? What? o_o
4:58 pm
pshaw

Had to break out my own algorithm to solve it. It reported 4 guesses to solve the grid. Seems like alot for 2 points.
4:58 pm
pshaw

Had to break out my own algorithm to solve it. It reported 4 guesses to solve the grid. Seems like alot for 2 points.
4:58 pm
pshaw

Had to break out my own algorithm to solve it. It reported 4 guesses to solve the grid. Seems like alot for 2 points.

4:58 pm
pshaw

Had to break out my own algorithm to solve it. It reported 4 guesses to solve the grid. Seems like alot for 2 points.



4:58 pm
pshaw

Had to break out my own algorithm to solve it. It reported 4 guesses to solve the grid. Seems like alot for 2 points.




4:58 pm
pshaw

Had to break out my own algorithm to solve it. It reported 4 guesses to solve the grid. Seems like alot for 2 points.


4:58 pm
seraphe

WOAH?
4:58 pm
Hanatori

omg.
4:58 pm
Aelis

What just happened, you evil fools!?
4:59 pm
Aelis

Sorry. I wanted to say that.
4:59 pm
pshaw

Crap. Sorry about that.
4:59 pm
Aelis

Dr_God is a very unique and blasphemous username.
4:59 pm
Hanatori

Oh well.
5:05 pm
Playwoman

all is well now,Dr_God.
5:07 pm
seraphe

gahhh my sudoku had some error after the d/c...
5:07 pm
Krys10

what's with all the duplicates in teh chat log? new feature gone wrong?
5:07 pm
seraphe

x_______x nd now it's blank ... forever
5:07 pm
Hanatori

heh.
5:07 pm
seraphe

rawrr i shall depart and return another day ^__^
5:08 pm
seraphe

[yes, that means you win, alice >__>]
5:08 pm
seraphe

byee xP
5:08 pm
pshaw

Well... that's the beauty of AJAX. All those chat request got sent out aync, and I didn't realize it until it upchucked on the screen.
5:08 pm
Hanatori

*ahem*
5:08 pm
Anj

Krus10, Babble did it as well so i'm guessing the server took a hit...
5:09 pm
Krys10

huh. did Babble just disconnect too?
5:09 pm
jeresig

everything just reset for me - and I got logged out
5:09 pm
Dr_God

Sorry about that folks, I was messing with stuff on the back-end and made a boo-boo. ;)
5:09 pm
jeresig

booo heh
5:09 pm
Dr_God

Ironically, I was fiddling with server optimization. :)
5:09 pm
hurshy

lol
5:10 pm
Krys10

Dr._God, today it seems lots of people are having their messages appear multiple times in teh chat log - any idea what's up?
5:11 pm
npspammcb

Me too
5:11 pm
Dr_God

That's only my list of things to fix. It happens when someone hits the Enter key more than once before the message can be sent. It effectively sends it each time you hit Enter.
5:11 pm
Krys10

ah yes, I think that happened to me yesterday
5:12 pm
Krys10

There was a post earlier suggesting that the chat log announce when people finish the day's puzzle - any chance?
5:12 pm
Playwoman

It happened to me, too because there is delay bfore the message sensds
5:12 pm
Dr_God

Krys10-
I'll think about that one. Not quite convinced it's necessary though.
5:13 pm
Dr_God

Usually someone lets out a big "Woo hoo!" when they finish.
5:13 pm
Krys10

or a list after the puzzle closes, with the times they finished maybe? It'd be nice to see how many people finished a particular puzzle, especially since we are growing to distrust the difficulty ratings :)
5:14 pm
Anj

There is NO sodoku impasse so bad that a 'woo-hoo!' can't make worse : /
5:14 pm
Krys10

(also it's nice to get fireworks when you finish... I got used to it in Babble)
5:14 pm
hurshy

lol anj
5:15 pm
Krys10

BTW, DrG, thanks for all your work in the last week on this. Have you slept at all?
5:16 pm
Dr_God

I'm starting to get some sleep now. :)
5:16 pm
Dr_God

I'll be back 100% soon
5:16 pm
Dr_God

I'll be back 100% soon
5:16 pm
Krys10

mmay your dreams be unpeppered with little green and red numbers.
5:17 pm
Carlos

Does anyone know why I am getting the chat log flashing across my puzzle?
5:17 pm
Dr_God

Carlos-
Upgrade to Firefox 1.5
5:17 pm
Carlos

DR G - thanks
5:18 pm
hurshy

dr_g, seems like you should post something on the site that says "if your screen is flashing, upgrade to firefox 1.5" so we don't get that question five million times a day :)
5:20 pm
Dr_God

On my list of things to do. ;)
5:30 pm
Anj

Hooo-piggin'-ray!
5:30 pm
peternl

Is it intentional that if you select a number twice it clear is?
5:31 pm
Dr_God

Yes
5:31 pm
peternl

ok, I wont report it as a bug then ;)
5:33 pm
Anj

eek! Connection error again : /
5:33 pm
Anj

eek! Connection error again : /
5:34 pm
hurshy

are we to assume you are done, though, anj?
5:34 pm
Playwoman

I just got 2 more connection error messages
5:35 pm
Anj

hursh, yes, but it was a hollow victory...I guessed : /
5:37 pm
hurshy

"have you never known the triumph of a lucky guess?" -emma (at least in the movie...)
5:38 pm
Anj

"oh f...!" - very ex-bomb disposal expert
5:39 pm
Anj


In other words I hate guessing : )
5:39 pm
hurshy

i gathered
5:39 pm
alicson

my eyes hurt
5:39 pm
hurshy

may i suggest a break, then, alicson?
5:39 pm
alicson


must finish puzzle!
5:42 pm
hurshy

hmm... ibuprofen, perhaps, then?
5:42 pm
Anj

OK, gotta scoot - later Hurshy : )
5:42 pm
alicson


that works for eyes??
5:42 pm
alicson


bye Anj
5:42 pm
Anj

bye alicson : )
5:43 pm
batmn

Arrrgh I hate when you get stuck in the same place for like half an hour.
5:44 pm
Jiraya

me too
5:47 pm
Jiraya

finally made a move
5:47 pm
batmn

Wish I could say the same ...
5:48 pm
MDFreaK76

hi all
5:48 pm
alicson


hallo
5:52 pm
hurshy

i don't get how on websudoku.com, the average time for a medium puzzle is like 11 minutes. how can all those people be so fast?
5:52 pm
Dr_God

Sorry again. :)
5:53 pm
peternl

I think you forgot to put any 7's in this game... ;)
5:53 pm
jffpmr

yeah the 7s are killing me
5:54 pm
jase

this is definitely a tricky one.. but you can solve it without 'guessing'..
5:54 pm
jase

i find that using the pencil marks helps with this puzzle... and i think Dr_God's medium puzzles are actually 'diabolical'
5:55 pm
Kemayo

hurshy: wouldn't surprise me if it was because websudoku.com's puzzles are *great* for printing out. So people complete them printed, then type them back in for verification.
5:55 pm
peternl


I wrote a program to solve sudoko, guessing and back tracking is actually very efficient for it. And the 8's are not heloping either
5:55 pm
Kemayo

Alternately, most of their medium puzzles are pretty easy. :-P
5:55 pm
hurshy

and they hit pause while they solve them on paper, perhaps?
5:55 pm
peternl


gotta go feed the kids breakfast...
5:55 pm
hurshy

well, then, i don't feel quite so dumb
5:56 pm
Kemayo

Yeah, today's "medium" seems like it would be an "evil" over on websudoku.com.
5:58 pm
jase

the technique that really helped me out here was marking possibilities -- if a box only has 3 open spaces, and two of them has to be 1 or 2, then the third one has to be 3
5:58 pm
hurshy

but they are easier to solve w/o paper here because of the red and green numbers
5:58 pm
jase

good luck ya'll!
6:00 pm
JamesonH

wuddup!
6:03 pm
Jiraya

i got the sevens in now!
6:04 pm
peternl

good on ya!
6:06 pm
peternl


got a 7!
6:06 pm
Jiraya

congrats!
6:07 pm
Jiraya

once you get the 7s, it all comes rolling out...
6:11 pm
Jiraya

Done!
6:12 pm
benhiller

cool
6:12 pm
Playwoman

Woo hoo! It took an hour!
6:25 pm
peternl

done
6:26 pm
peternl

cya
6:28 pm
Dr_God

Digg users-
Can you digg it? Thanks.
http://digg.com/gaming/Free_Sudoku_pu
zzles_and_a_friendly_community
6:28 pm
benhiller

sure i'll digg it
6:28 pm
benhiller


it was del.icio.us/popular'ed, btw
6:29 pm
Dr_God

Yeah. I got a lot of sign-ups from del.icio.us.
6:29 pm
benhiller

yea, like me :P
6:30 pm
Dr_God

It's much easier to get high up on del.icio.us than digg. Much easier.
6:30 pm
benhiller


yea
6:33 pm
Dr_God

Thanks for the digg, Ben
6:33 pm
benhiller

no problem, hope it gets to the front page
6:33 pm
Dr_God

It won't. ;)
6:34 pm
benhiller

heh
6:36 pm
benhiller

btw, what did you make this with? rails? php?
6:37 pm
zatrix

i smell ajax in there somewhere
6:38 pm
Dr_God

Definitely AJAX. But just plain ol' PHP. No RoR.
6:38 pm
benhiller

hm, cool, just wondering
6:38 pm
benhiller

btw, i looked at the html source, are there gonna be 'challenges' soon?
6:40 pm
Dr_God

That was a possibility in the beginning. I kept the code in there for future use. I may turn SuperTac into a website:
http://www.supertac.com
6:41 pm
Dr_God

Don't plan on seeing challenges on here though.
6:41 pm
benhiller

k
6:42 pm
StevenBrianHall

Yeah! And stuff..
6:45 pm
benhiller

man, this is tough
6:47 pm
Jiraya

have you thought about pente?
6:47 pm
Jiraya


www.pente.net
6:47 pm
Jiraya


www.pente.net
6:48 pm
zatrix

have you thought about cheese? didnt think so
6:49 pm
StevenBrianHall

I've thought about cheese!
6:49 pm
StevenBrianHall

I decided...no.
6:49 pm
hurshy

mmm cheese
6:49 pm
zatrix

who said you had any choice? lol
6:51 pm
StevenBrianHall

What a great bit of programming.
7:04 pm
caderoux

Took three times because of mistakes I guess - be nice to have undo...
7:12 pm
Kemayo

Is there any way to make the number-select box stay open when you're entering potentials? I'm almost never entering just one potential number, after all...
7:12 pm
Cathy

Yoo Hoo !! First time I've ever completed a Sudoku !!
7:12 pm
Kemayo

Gratz!
7:16 pm
hurshy

no, kemayo, there isn't a way to do that
7:16 pm
Kemayo

Woe.
7:16 pm
raggedyandy3478

how do u get the potentials to show up?
7:20 pm
hurshy

hold down shift when you select and number and it will be small and green. hold down alt and it wil be red, indicating you know it isn't that.
7:20 pm
Kemayo

You must enter them yourself. In the "how to play" page, it explains how one can open the popup, then shift-click on a number to add a little green "potential number", or alt-click on a number to add a little red "definitely not this number".
7:21 pm
hurshy

i just realized two things. there is nothing to stop anyone from using the green to mean you know it's not that, and the red to mean it might be that. and this feature would be a bummer if you were red-green colorblind.
7:21 pm
raggedyandy3478

ty for the help
7:22 pm
Kemayo

Yeah, it's just cultural conditioning. :)
7:22 pm
helenkeller

connection error?
7:25 pm
raggedyandy3478

haha
7:30 pm
helenkeller

i keep getting these 'connection error' messages - one every 5 seconds in the chat
7:31 pm
helenkeller

i'm still able to work the puzzle
7:31 pm
hurshy

the server's been having some troubles, helen, but i thought it was all fixed...
7:31 pm
hurshy

hit refresh maybe? (save first)
7:36 pm
helenkeller

thanks for the idea hurshy - i left & just came back, but that's the 3rd time it's happened
7:36 pm
hurshy

dr_god isn't here, so i don't know what else you can do...
7:37 pm
helenkeller

i guess i could just keep playing while it sends me endless error messages - tradeoff is giving up the chat, but that's ok - chat is too distracting here
7:37 pm
helenkeller

if it happens again i'll try the refresh, thx
7:41 pm
scottru

woo hoo! finished!
8:24 pm
flarfu

harder than yesterday
8:25 pm
mrjaggers

is it possible to solve without guessing?
8:25 pm
Sulihin

should always be
8:25 pm
hurshy

i think sudoku difficulty really depends on the person and the day and luck, bc i found this easier than yesterday, and some found it harder today than 2 days ago when it was "expert".
8:26 pm
hurshy

i solved this one without guessing.
8:26 pm
flarfu

the alt key doesn't work for me
8:26 pm
flarfu

wish it did
8:26 pm
Sulihin

hmm works for me
8:26 pm
t4coffee

what does alt do?
8:27 pm
hurshy

how odd, flarfu
8:27 pm
flarfu

firefox on linux
8:27 pm
mrjaggers

interesting... at this point I have so many options available
8:27 pm
hurshy

if you hold alt while choosing a number, it is little and red, to indicate you know it's not that
8:27 pm
Leech

what does alt key?
8:27 pm
Sulihin

red marks a number
8:27 pm
Leech

nice
8:28 pm
mrjaggers

I can't use alt either -- firefox thinks I want to keyboard select the file menu
8:28 pm
t4coffee

cool, aint on my linux partition tho
8:29 pm
Sulihin

i'm using firefox and it'll select the file menu if i hold it, but it still works
8:31 pm
mrjaggers

hmm... in my case, if I use alt, it selects the number, but doesn't commit it to the server -- it just sticks with the popup open
8:33 pm
mrjaggers

or is it all client side?
8:34 pm
Sulihin

the puzzle markup is client side until you save I believe
8:38 pm
Sulihin

you select the box then alt-click a number and it doesn't do anything?
8:38 pm
mrjaggers

the number highlights blue, but the box doesn't close
8:39 pm
t4coffee

does it really matter if its windows or linux?
8:40 pm
mrjaggers

It may matter -- im running xp
8:40 pm
t4coffee

and does it work?
8:40 pm
Sulihin

i'm on xp as well
8:40 pm
mrjaggers

not real important for me, as I don't use the reds anyway
8:40 pm
Sulihin

1.5.0.1
8:41 pm
mrjaggers

same here, but I've a ton of extensions also
8:41 pm
t4coffee

firefox 1.5.0.1 on xp, red don't work for me
8:41 pm
t4coffee

yeah, loads
8:41 pm
Sulihin

me too
8:41 pm
hermit

ffx rocks
8:41 pm
t4coffee

it doesn't matter tho, i prefer to solve em on my own
8:41 pm
Sulihin

i'll check at work tomorrow, i have more there
8:48 pm
mrjaggers

The pencil marks are kind of distracting
8:48 pm
hermit

how do you do pencil marks??
8:48 pm
mrjaggers

They work well to a point, then I get information overload
8:48 pm
Sulihin

shift for green alt for red (if it works) when selecting a number
9:09 pm
hexx54

Hi
9:09 pm
zatrix


lol
9:09 pm
MDFreaK76

hello
9:10 pm
beverly

If you get one right, does it tell you ?
9:10 pm
zatrix

you know its sad when you bro says hi to you lol
9:10 pm
beverly

I'm new to this
9:10 pm
MDFreaK76

me too
9:10 pm
hexx54

same
9:10 pm
zatrix

well you're over the hard part, you signed up :P
9:10 pm
hexx54

HAHAHAHAHAHA
9:11 pm
MDFreaK76

this game is annoying but i cant quit
9:11 pm
bunnyvicious

I doesn't tell you if you get one wrong, but it shows you if you put two of the same in one column or block.
9:11 pm
zatrix

now get clicking
9:11 pm
hexx54

HAHAHAHAHAHA ZATRIX IS FUNNY HAHAHAHA
9:11 pm
zatrix

anton, hexx, dont be a fag
9:21 pm
cyclegirl

How do I get this puzzle to stop blinking??
9:21 pm
zatrix

update to firefox 1.5
9:21 pm
hexx54

ALT+F4 it works
9:21 pm
zatrix

hexx stfu
9:21 pm
MDFreaK76

alt f4 killed my dog
9:24 pm
cyclegirl

F4 killed the puzzle.
9:24 pm
MDFreaK76

alt f4 pushed my grandma down the stairs
9:25 pm
zatrix

cyclegirl, hexx54 was being stupid, if you want the flickering to stop update your browser (im guessing you're using firefox?)
9:26 pm
hermit

alt f4 voted bush into presidency
9:26 pm
cyclegirl

I changed it from firefox to Explorer. Solved the problem. Thanks for the help!
9:26 pm
zatrix

woohoo done
9:29 pm
hermit

i want an EASY puzzle!@@@R
9:35 pm
amiantos

Wish this worked a bit more like WebSudoku...
9:36 pm
randy

wow
9:36 pm
randy

this isn't too good
9:37 pm
MDFreaK76

alt f4 got my little sister pregnant
9:37 pm
hermit

oh good, i thought i was going to have to pay for the abortion
9:38 pm
MDFreaK76

nah its cool she's blind so i sharpened the plunger and left it in the toilet
9:42 pm
hexx54

this is tuff
9:43 pm
hermit

yeah
9:43 pm
MDFreaK76

yeah pretty lame i suck at this
9:43 pm
MDFreaK76

yeah pretty lame i suck at this
9:43 pm
MDFreaK76

yeah pretty lame i suck at this
9:43 pm
MDFreaK76

yeah pretty lame i suck at this
9:43 pm
MDFreaK76

woah WTF
9:43 pm
hexx54

heard you the first time
9:43 pm
MDFreaK76

my bad
9:45 pm
randy

Connection error. Contact Dr_God if this persists.
9:45 pm
randy

Connection error. Contact Dr_God if this persists.
9:45 pm
randy

Connection error. Contact Dr_God if this persists.
9:45 pm
randy

Connection error. Contact Dr_God if this persists.
9:45 pm
hexx54

randy contact drgod
9:55 pm
raerae7133

i <3 sudoku
9:56 pm
hexx54

tuff stuff
10:04 pm
squallwc

testing...hello world.
10:05 pm
MDFreaK76

hi
10:11 pm
raerae7133

I am waiting for more sudoku
10:11 pm
MDFreaK76

this sucks. g'nite all
10:17 pm
purewish

1 hour left!
10:20 pm
iLuke

im completely new to sudoku... am i missing something, or is it not possible for a 4 to fit in the center right grid?
10:20 pm
iLuke

oh, duh, there is a four there
10:21 pm
iLuke

sry.... heh'
10:30 pm
Ezpinaka

esta dificil
10:37 pm
ashling

sip
10:41 pm
WNxNukeem

time stamp please
10:41 pm
WNxNukeem

ah, thanks
10:47 pm
Techno4

HI! Do they post easyer one's sometimes?
10:47 pm
mzhokie

yesterday's was really easy I thought
10:48 pm
Techno4

First time, find this one hard
10:56 pm
Ezpinaka

ya termino?
10:57 pm
ashling

no, ud?
10:57 pm
Ezpinaka

aun no
10:57 pm
innate

wee just in time
11:11 pm
vertfox

Greets
11:11 pm
amiantos

Man I am bad at this
11:19 pm
FlyingDog

That was a tough one.
11:22 pm
tvongaza

wow, find it easier on paper or some reason
11:22 pm
amiantos

i don't think i'm going to solve this one in time.. too difficult for my feeble mind
11:24 pm
goatherdered

you all know you can push Alt and Shift when you click the number and it will mark it as Red or Green (not 8 or may be 2, etc)
11:24 pm
goatherdered

if not, there is some help
11:31 pm
jayhav

key is 7 and 8s
11:35 pm
eliot

thought i'd go for a little last minute sudoku here
11:41 pm
benhiller

woohoo, done
11:42 pm
stubie

I don't have one 7 yet!
11:42 pm
eliot

me either
11:45 pm
stubie

THis isn't a minute.
11:45 pm
stubie

I mean, medium.
11:45 pm
eliot

guess i'm not a speed sudoku-er
11:46 pm
darthdurden

omg me need puzzle
11:46 pm
goatherdered

if you dont know, you can push Alt and Shift when you click the number and it will mark it as Red or Green (not 8 or may be 2, etc)
11:47 pm
jdbarney

I'm new to Sudoku. Is this all logic, or do you sometimes have to guess?
11:48 pm
MotiveForce

never have to guess :)
11:48 pm
eliot

never guess
11:48 pm
goatherdered

its all logic
11:48 pm
eliot

goatherdered - not alt and shift at the same time, though
11:49 pm
goatherdered

you may have to try some things at some point, but most of the time you can narrow things down given what you see at the time
11:49 pm
goatherdered

ya, i guess i did not make it very clear
11:49 pm
eliot

the first time i showed my dad, he was quite confused and thought you should guess between the possible numbers .. he didn't see the point
11:49 pm
Playwoman

Does anybody out there do the sudoku in the LA Times?
11:50 pm
eliot

is it the united features one?
11:50 pm
goatherdered

10 more min till a new one!!!!
11:50 pm
Playwoman

Ooh. I'll go check
11:52 pm
Playwoman

It comes from Tribune Media Services
11:53 pm
MotiveForce

OMG Jamie!!!!
11:53 pm
MotiveForce

GIVE US PUZZLAGE!
11:53 pm
MotiveForce

We beseech thee!!
11:53 pm
jonathanpoh

phew.. managed to finish with 8 mins to spare