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12:03 am
Dr_God
We'll see if today's "Medium" is easier than yesterday's. ;)
12:03 am
scottru
here's hoping
12:03 am
scottru
some easy starts
12:05 am
scottru
no 7s on the board
12:05 am
sprite
Yesterday's was nasty :) Morning all, ready for a new challenge.
12:05 am
scottru
and one 8
12:06 am
sprite
If you can count, there is hope, lol.
12:13 am
lawfully
It's gonna be easier than tomorrow... I guess...
12:13 am
sprite
Midsection is a breeze. After that, I am looking for a way out ;)
12:40 am
orb
well, that was relatively painless
12:41 am
Krys10
Glad to hear there's a painless part somewhere in here :)
12:58 am
licketySplitAUS
I'm a ready! Even been reading about X-Wing and SwordFish patterns
1:00 am
Krys10
i just got to the painless part!
1:03 am
Debs40ish
yeahhhhhhhh finished :)
1:04 am
sprite
Feels good, doesn't it, Krys! :) Congrats, Debs. In about 10 minutes my kids will leave for school and I might get some time and quiet to puzzle.
1:04 am
Debs40ish
Better go get showered & dressed..If anyone sees Hurshy say hi to her for me.... Have fun Sprite cya later :)
1:05 am
Debs40ish
Cya Krys tc
1:06 am
sprite
Bye Debs :)
1:08 am
Krys10
done! 'night, all.
1:08 am
sprite
Night Krys!
1:28 am
sandyloo
done and now to babble
1:41 am
bstadil
Done Goodnight all
1:58 am
sprite
Done too. Fairly easy. Have fun all :)
1:59 am
goatherdered
easy???
2:03 am
andyc
My save state button doesn't work!!
2:03 am
andyc
Oh, it's woken up now I've typed something...
2:03 am
mrpresident
Sprite is a big of a genius I am afraid! LOL
2:05 am
andyc
That suddenly finished in a hurry..... Whooo hooo...
2:13 am
goatherdered
i give up
3:03 am
rcheramy
gimme some sevens... geeze
3:03 am
MotiveForce
lolz... this one's in base-9
3:03 am
a
it's good to see i'm not the only one craving 7's :p
3:03 am
MotiveForce
we should all be asleep
3:04 am
MotiveForce
just a joke rcheramy... don't worry, there are 7s
3:04 am
rcheramy
Ive got 2 of them.
3:04 am
darthdurden
i've got 4 :P
3:05 am
MotiveForce
darthdureden is the r0x
3:05 am
darthdurden
oh shit... i have 3... 3 still greater than 2
3:05 am
MotiveForce
i hate you darth... you lied
3:05 am
MotiveForce
bad darth
3:06 am
rcheramy
I've got 1 in box 4&6
3:08 am
rcheramy
aha got one in box 2... I now have 3
3:08 am
MotiveForce
freudian box... or are we talking grids?
3:09 am
MotiveForce
c'mon... that's funny
3:09 am
MotiveForce
tough crowd.
3:09 am
darthdurden
roflcopter
3:10 am
rcheramy
we're busy hunting 7s...
3:10 am
darthdurden
i'm busy hunting freudian boxes
3:10 am
MotiveForce
b00yah!
3:11 am
rcheramy
4 down... 5 to go.
3:15 am
MotiveForce
Uh oh... you made a mistake and you're not gonna see the result until the end!!!
3:15 am
MotiveForce
Beware the Ides+1 of march
3:17 am
MotiveForce
Why is this not AJAX? *sigh*
3:17 am
MotiveForce
everyone and their gayJAX
3:17 am
MotiveForce
(no xml)
3:17 am
ringedingdong
i think it is ajax, must be, mustnt it?
3:17 am
MotiveForce
it's fake ajax
3:17 am
ringedingdong
why?
3:18 am
MotiveForce
the responses don't come back in anything remotely similar to XML
3:18 am
MotiveForce
and the X stands for XML
3:18 am
MotiveForce
but fake AJAX is easy, so that's mostly the only thing people use (cuz they don't rock hard)
3:18 am
ringedingdong
ok its aja?... well i think this is ok too ; )
3:18 am
ringedingdong
oh comeon!
3:18 am
MotiveForce
yeh, def still a sexy game
3:18 am
ringedingdong
thats the point! ; )
3:21 am
darthdurden
6 7's!
3:22 am
ringedingdong
lOl
3:22 am
MotiveForce
blahhh
3:22 am
rcheramy
yay got 9 7s
3:22 am
rcheramy
wheres the 10th one
3:22 am
MotiveForce
i have 10!!
3:22 am
MotiveForce
hahaha
3:22 am
ringedingdong
why!?
3:23 am
MotiveForce
cuz you can't have 10 of any
3:25 am
rcheramy
ta done!
3:25 am
MotiveForce
congrads
3:25 am
MotiveForce
oh snap... you can't sleep... it's time to get up!
3:25 am
darthdurden
i was just taking a work break
3:27 am
MotiveForce
now we can get back to work
3:27 am
darthdurden
indeed
3:36 am
Lamancha
Tricky again - needed to take a punt between two numbers and see where it took me - my crappy logic wasn't enough - only 20+ hours until the next one.....
4:40 am
MrOoijer
ok got it, indeed medium, yestrady was too hard to be medium. no backtracking needed only forced numbers
5:15 am
bzikofski
this one seems easier than yesterday
5:25 am
ringedingdong
GOT IT ; )
5:42 am
Ricey
when are these puzzles going to get harder???
5:42 am
Ricey
not very challenging at the mo
6:17 am
IceQueenNabiki
you guys been to websudoku.com
6:17 am
IceQueenNabiki
how do you think of it compared to this site?
6:17 am
bzikofski
try evil puzzle number 666
6:18 am
bzikofski
well the medium puzzles are just about the same
6:18 am
IceQueenNabiki
hah
6:18 am
IceQueenNabiki
yeah
6:18 am
bzikofski
but the evil ones are very hard
6:18 am
bzikofski
almost imposible
6:18 am
IceQueenNabiki
they are
6:18 am
IceQueenNabiki
I usually do the hard ones
6:18 am
IceQueenNabiki
I try to beat my best time
6:20 am
bzikofski
i don't compete for time
6:20 am
bzikofski
i'm at work ;)
6:27 am
IceQueenNabiki
ahh
6:28 am
IceQueenNabiki
makes sense
6:28 am
IceQueenNabiki
well, where I am it's 9:30 at night, so
7:15 am
Bubbles
this ain't easy!!!!!
7:15 am
Kellie
erm... no its not
7:15 am
chebuctonian
hi all.
7:15 am
Bubbles
where's tony when you need him
7:16 am
chebuctonian
I thought this was collaborative... are we just all working on the same puzzle?
7:21 am
Kellie
ha ha... he wont be able to do this! his too old. Tell you something though.. if this is a medium I would hate to see what a difficult is
7:22 am
Bubbles
absolutely
7:23 am
Kellie
oh I went through that 1st chapter with my mum last night and she didn't have a clue about it all either.... this course is going to be hard
7:26 am
Kellie
right i have bit the bullet and have guessed!! I'm on a roll but i bet any money that I have cocked this up ha
7:27 am
chebuctonian
does this let you have more than one number in a field as a marker?
7:27 am
Atalante
yup - hold shift down as you select the number
7:27 am
chebuctonian
thanks!
7:28 am
Atalante
and alt (I think) if you want a little red number to say it can't be that number in that square
7:29 am
chebuctonian
hmm... anyway to select them at the same time? having to pop-up that square three times is nuts
7:30 am
Kellie
OH MY GOD!!! what a guess.. bubbles i have done it.
7:30 am
Atalante
Dr_G has been told that :P
7:41 am
Bubbles
am i bovered tho
7:42 am
Kellie
YOU CALLING MY MUM A PIKI
7:42 am
Kellie
sorry didnt mean to shout that ha
7:43 am
Bubbles
yeah shhhhhh its a libary, people working
7:43 am
Kellie
ha ha AM I BOTHERED THOUGH!
7:43 am
chebuctonian
hmm... is there a way to start over from scratch if I made a mistake? I guess this only shows obvious ones :(
7:43 am
Bubbles
yeah but no but
7:44 am
Kellie
if you go into the Rankings tab and then come back out again then i should clear what you have done
7:44 am
Bubbles
only if you haven't saved it
7:44 am
Kellie
I'm the only gay in the village!
7:45 am
chebuctonian
that's so straight
7:45 am
Bubbles
i'm a ladieeeeee
7:46 am
Kellie
oh no your not! ha
7:46 am
Kellie
computer says nooooo
7:47 am
Bubbles
mine definately does
7:47 am
Bubbles
mine definately does#
7:47 am
Bubbles
oh yes i am
7:48 am
Bubbles
did my 5 belong there or not?
7:50 am
Kellie
erm no where near it ha
7:54 am
Kellie
I can give a small clue... to be honest it wont help out much though
8:02 am
Onpaki
looks tought today.
8:02 am
dplass
HI RANDOMM
8:03 am
dplass
ok, now that's just annoying
8:03 am
Onpaki
hi randomm
8:03 am
randomm
whoops... sorry... latency problem... and noob!
8:03 am
randomm
just joined :)
8:03 am
randomm
now it works fine...
8:03 am
Onpaki
i had to restart twice.
8:04 am
randomm
using safari... anyone else having problems with the chat & safari?
8:04 am
haZe
let me try :)
8:04 am
haZe
no, seems ok
8:04 am
haZe
refresh is just a bit slow, but nothing more
8:09 am
randomm
anyone completed todays one yet?
8:09 am
haZe
they wouldn't be here anymore ;-)
8:11 am
randomm
indeed... :$
8:15 am
bunnyvicious
Just one 7 somewhere on the board would have been nice!
8:15 am
bzikofski
there should be an option to hide the chat
8:16 am
bunnyvicious
I like it in Babble, it's under the board so you can ignore it if you want.
8:16 am
randomm
somehow the board feels too big... difficult to look at as I'm more used to smaller newspaper sudokus...
8:16 am
bzikofski
sometimes people give tips where is a number ("look for the 2 first !!), and incidentally you read it.. i don't like it.. it sucks
8:16 am
mythmon
you can switch to the Who's Online tab, then you cant see teh chat
8:17 am
randomm
hmm... perhaps there should be a "spoiler" switch. i.e. tick the spoiler switch before making such a comment
8:17 am
jojomnky
i think its bad form to make those comments at all
8:18 am
bunnyvicious
Myth, TY, I'd have never thought of that
8:18 am
bzikofski
im switchin to who's online then :) later
8:30 am
Kellie
BUBBLES HOW YOU GETTING ON?? YOU NEARLY FINISHED
8:31 am
Bubbles
in a word NO
8:34 am
Kellie
YOU COME DOWN TO A POINT WHER YOU JUST HAVE TO TAKE A GAMBLE... IT DOESNT HELP THAT THERE IS NO 7'S AND ONLY 1 8!
8:34 am
Kellie
SORRY I AM NOT SHOUTING I'M RAISING QUOTES AND THEY HAVE TO BE IN CAPS
8:35 am
Kellie
SORRY WORKING
8:39 am
Bubbles
ahhhhhhhhhhh
8:39 am
Kellie
ha ha i have just realised how rude my comment looks. Sorry randomm if you read that as me being rude. I'm raising quote for work.
8:42 am
bzikofski
this is what i was taling about
8:42 am
bzikofski
people should have more respect for others...
8:43 am
bzikofski
and not give tips for shits sake !!!
8:44 am
Thuryn
This one is easier then yesterday's (so far)
8:44 am
evanonut
language!
8:44 am
bunnyvicious
Yes please.
8:44 am
Bubbles
calm down
8:44 am
bzikofski
sorry :o
8:44 am
FMitch
Hi Evan & bunny I was just typing the same thing - language!!!
8:45 am
Kellie
Sorry bzi... but are you talking about what i have said?
8:45 am
bunnyvicious
Hello you two.
8:45 am
bzikofski
sorry for the language. it was meant to sound funny. didn't make it :(
8:45 am
evanonut
hmmm - hey fmitch
8:45 am
FMitch
we share another addiction together LOL
8:45 am
bunnyvicious
wtg jared! Wish I could say the same...
8:45 am
Kellie
i dont remember saying anything about where things are....
8:46 am
Kellie
i didnt think my work had anything to do with this game
8:46 am
evanonut
i think i missed something kellie
8:46 am
bunnyvicious
Hope Dr G doesn't decide to make another game to add to the two already...
8:46 am
jared
thanks, bunny. didn't even have to guess (though I thought I was going to have to for a second).
8:46 am
evanadine
i think the "problem" is that this game was created by the same man who created another game called Babble.
a lot of the Babble players are on the chatlog here, trying out this game.
over on the Babbler chatlog, we have coded ways of giving clues, which is perfectly acceptable over there. they just sort of carry the same mentality over here, forgetting that its not necessarily the same pool of people playing as on Babble.
8:47 am
Kellie
I'm talking about my work though not giving any clues on the game... i couldnt even if i want to coz i cant see the table anymore coz i've done it
8:47 am
dplass
i can't find any 7s
8:47 am
randomm
whoops... for some reason I had a problem with the 7 graphic showing...
8:47 am
bunnyvicious
Really? No guessing? I needed to hear that, I'm missing something then, had to wipe clean around six times!
8:47 am
dplass
@randomm not what i mean...
8:47 am
randomm
and being new to the game didn't realise that it was just the fact that the browser couldn't get the graphic...
8:48 am
FMitch
It doesn't show any 7's and only 1 x 8 - that is not the basis for a "medium" level puzzle
8:48 am
randomm
oh, sorry... I know... that's not it... when I finally found a seven and put it in, it wouldn't show... so I thought that I'd made a mistake, but it was just that for some reason my browser couldn't get the graphic at that time
8:48 am
bunnyvicious
I agree
8:48 am
dplass
i must be dum [sic] cuz [sic] i can't seem to make headway on this one -- AGAIN
8:49 am
Bubbles
absolutely fmitch. Everyone scream together
8:49 am
randomm
so I logged in and logged back in and surprise surprise the 7 graphic was there where I had tried to put it...
8:49 am
Bubbles
1..... 2......3
8:49 am
jared
Nope, no guessing. There was one logical deduction to make, that took me about 10 minutes to find (once I got deadlocked and had my little green numbers everywhere). After that, the board was done in 2 minutes.
8:49 am
randomm
sorry...: logged out and back in... :$
8:49 am
FMitch
aaaargggghhh
8:49 am
Kellie
thing is though bubbles i'm getting accused of something that i haven't even done
8:49 am
randomm
yep, no guessing necessary...
8:49 am
evanonut
oh my cow! you guys move the log more than babbland
8:50 am
dplass
i need a 'clear all pencil marks' b utton
8:51 am
Jinjiru
So strange.... looks like I need to have two 8s in one row... I have one empty cell in a column and 8 is missing... and if I put 8 here, it'll be in one row with another 8... But I have no error messages, so everything is put correctly...
8:52 am
FMitch
Yea Evan, we have much more space on babble chat I think Dr_G is going to change it here. Thats why he is letting us test it for him just like he did with the beta site on babble.
8:52 am
evanadine
just because there are no error messages doesnt necessarily mean the numbers are in the correct places...
8:52 am
evanonut
not necessarily jinjiru - could mean you need to wipe a block or two
8:52 am
bunnyvicious
He said he might move this chatterbox to babble, but then the stats might go under the board...
8:53 am
FMitch
oh no !!! really bunny not sure about that at all.
8:53 am
Jinjiru
Don't error cells mean they are correct?
8:54 am
evanonut
error just means you have a repeat
8:54 am
evanadine
the error warning only shows when there is a conflict, not when a number is placed in the wrong square.
8:55 am
M3
is there anyway of putting two numbers in one box. other SuDoku puzzles give you this option? makes it a lot easier to work x
8:55 am
dplass
M3: *save first* then click on how to play
8:56 am
randomm
hello sarugirl
8:56 am
evanadine
M3 -- hold down shift + click if you want it to be a possibility (itll show up green.)
hold down alt + click of you want ot to be a no-go (it will show up red)
8:57 am
M3
AHHHHHH thanks xxx
8:57 am
M3
in play this , http://www.timesonline.co.uk/section/0,,23509
,00.html
8:57 am
Thuryn
dammit. once again, i'm going to be forced to guess rather than logically deriving the next move
8:58 am
randomm
you don't need to guess
8:58 am
Thuryn
well, every single open square has two possible values
8:58 am
evanadine
supposedly you should never *have* to guess...
but most of the times, i just cant see any more clues in the grid, even if theyre there...
8:58 am
evanonut
dont guess, just t-h-i-n-k - aaaahhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmm
8:59 am
Jinjiru
Is there a possibility to reset my puzzle? I just want to start from scratch :)
8:59 am
evanadine
jin -- Dr God is working on that. but for now, you have to clear each individual square
8:59 am
bunnyvicious
I better get, have to work at the diner, need to invest in a lap top... catch you all late tonight!
8:59 am
M3
oh like it now i know, just trying to go between babble and this emmmm more time wasted !!!
9:00 am
Jinjiru
evanadine - thank you :)
9:00 am
xtinct
is there a way to clear the whole puzzle and start from scratch
9:00 am
FMitch
Jin, if you haven't saved at all then go to archives or one of the other options and that will clear the screen back to the start.
9:01 am
randomm
thuryn: you need to find those pairs so that it reduces the number of blank squares on the 3x3 grid
9:01 am
randomm
or at least that's how I got through it... took me ages though :(
9:02 am
Thuryn
well, and 'close enough' logic is still useful. e.g. if i know a 7 is in a given column in a 3x3, that's good enough to use it to reduce possibilites in two other squares
9:02 am
Thuryn
but it isn't helping
9:03 am
Thuryn
oh wait. it just did. ^_^
9:03 am
Thuryn
dammit. no it didn't. ;_;
9:05 am
randomm
basically how i got through it was to find out a pair of numbers that would occupy specific two squares on the 3x3 grid, so that takes those squares out of contention
9:05 am
Thuryn
ah yes. i've done that before. lessee now...
9:05 am
randomm
after that I had three possible numbers left and by looking at the adjacent 3x3 area I could figure it out...
9:06 am
dplass
this puzzle is kicking my butt like yesterday
9:06 am
snboarder99
wahoo, i got i!
9:08 am
dplass
damnit why is it ALT and not CONTROL shift
9:08 am
raerae7133
Mornin' everybody
9:11 am
purewish
good morning!(here is actually at midnight though)
9:11 am
Jinjiru
Oh, morning... It's 18:15 here in Moscow :)
9:12 am
purewish
around 12:15 am in tokyo!
9:13 am
zatrix
10:13 canada :P
9:13 am
Jennerster
3:11pm in uk
9:14 am
raerae7133
I want to visit tokyo
9:14 am
purewish
quite fun, but not today...;; it's raining right now
9:15 am
raerae7133
it's snowing here
9:15 am
raerae7133
rain > snow
9:15 am
jojomnky
i'll be in the bahamas in a week
9:15 am
haZe
(1 50% guess)
9:16 am
purewish
snowing...in march...^^;
9:16 am
raerae7133
yes. snowing in march. Welcome to Minnesota!
9:16 am
evanonut
blue skies and sunshine here
9:17 am
Jinjiru
We have had sun all day today and +2C :)
9:17 am
raerae7133
It snowed on Monday too. There's about 7 inches (18cm) of snow on the ground right now
9:18 am
raerae7133
solved the puzzle by the way
9:18 am
evanonut
supposed to snow tonight though :-(
9:18 am
purewish
i'm working on it for hours
9:18 am
jhiner
so it wont let me use my 13 character pass
9:19 am
jhiner
it let me put it in
9:19 am
jhiner
but then when i went to log in, it kicked
9:19 am
purewish
too much snow in this winter
9:21 am
raerae7133
I like snow. I just don't like driving on snowy roads
9:23 am
purewish
i guess so, even i never droven by myself
9:23 am
Jinjiru
we have a LOT of snow, more than any previous year (in my memory) smth like this: http://www.retrobox.ru/images/content/carinsn
ow.jpg
9:23 am
Jinjiru
(no space in 'carinsnow'
9:23 am
jojomnky
global warming
9:24 am
Jinjiru
it was last year april but this year there's much more...
9:27 am
purewish
i've never seen snow like in the picture
9:28 am
Jinjiru
purewish - it's a bit dirty but it's real :)
9:28 am
Jinjiru
it was 1st april 2005, this year we have more
9:32 am
redguy
Wow this thing goes down like a house of cards once you get a seven in the mix.
9:33 am
evanonut
elusive stinking 7
9:33 am
raerae7133
redguy, yes. 7s are the key
9:33 am
raerae7133
well, so are 1-8 and 9, but you know
9:34 am
purewish
anyway i'm giving up, time to go home!
9:34 am
evanonut
1's are coming along just fine
9:34 am
purewish
still in the office til midnight T-T
9:41 am
jojomnky
wow that was some crazy logic i just used to find that 7
9:42 am
dplass
i have no 7s
9:42 am
bex777
i have none either
9:43 am
dplass
yes you do - bex777 :P
9:43 am
zatrix
theres always this point which i get to which completely stumps me, then liek half an hour later im lik "OH"...argh
9:44 am
evanonut
xactly zatrix
9:44 am
zatrix
i havent been able to come up with a sure way of reaching the "OH" moment quicker tho :(
9:45 am
evanonut
i think the key is walking away a bit
9:45 am
zatrix
i do this in the morning paper sometimes and it hard to walk away when you're trying to be "15 minutes or less > genious" lol
9:45 am
evanonut
usually it ends up i have something pencilled that shouldn't have been
9:47 am
manic
this is cool - are there any other good sudoku sites out there?
9:47 am
evanonut
shazaaam, i just placed a 7
9:48 am
nerd-core
hey everyone, just signed up
9:48 am
zatrix
nerd-core.....that the best name you could choose? lol
9:48 am
jojomnky
manic try websudoku
9:48 am
M3
Manic, http://www.timesonline.co.uk/section/0,,23509
,00.html
9:49 am
nerd-core
i like www.miniclip.com/sudoku/sudoku.htm
9:49 am
jojomnky
i like this one the best but i wish the puzzles would happen 2 times a day
9:50 am
manic
thanks - i'll check them out - can i print from anywhere?
9:50 am
nerd-core
you can print from miniclip, but i've never tried it
9:52 am
Jennerster
i guessing u an pobably screen dump it
9:52 am
manic
True, but it would be kinda ugly :)
9:53 am
zatrix
not if you PNG it :P
9:54 am
zatrix
maybe apply a few brightness/contrast filters before saving, then you can print b/w
9:54 am
nerd-core
that sounds like a bit too much work...
9:55 am
zatrix
its not, just depends how BADLY you want it done thats all :), its all relative right?
9:55 am
manic
this puzzle seems kinda hard! has anyone seen the hard puzzles on this site? they must be impossible!
9:55 am
nerd-core
this one is tough, its taking me a while...
9:55 am
manic
I wonder how they grade them
9:55 am
zatrix
i remember when sudoku puzzles just showed up, i wrote a java app to solve them, too bad i dont have it with me now :P
9:56 am
evanonut
j'ai finit
9:57 am
bex777
i think this is harder than yesterday
9:57 am
jayhav
for sure. the 7 and 8s kill you
9:57 am
manic
Maybe they want to keep us a long time on the site :)
10:00 am
manic
Anyone else come here from 37 signals blog?
10:00 am
zatrix
downloadsquad!!!
10:02 am
manic
Oh well, I am giving up. It is too hard for me! I will try again tomorrow - see you guys :)
10:04 am
jojomnky
yay all done no guessing!
10:17 am
dplass
no guessing?!
10:22 am
Dr_God
I just wanted to welcome all the players who came from Download Squad. Welcome!
10:22 am
zatrix
thanks :)
10:24 am
Ukodus
ditto.... can I have a 7 please?
10:25 am
dplass
Dr_God: please for to add [sic] a 'clear all pencil marks' button and a 'clear all ' button.
10:25 am
Dr_God
A 'clear all' button is coming soon
10:26 am
danfeinberg
hint me!!
10:26 am
zatrix
also seeing which number you added last would be helpful
10:27 am
Ukodus
well that sux... just went to how to play and then back..... all my work gone.... (and yes I know there's a save button)
10:28 am
Dr_God
Auto-save is coming soon too. ;)
10:29 am
MichMetz
I don't think I would like auto save. I save then guess a few. If it doesn't work out, I go back to my last saved point:-(
10:29 am
zatrix
lol that defeats the point of the puzzle lol
10:30 am
Dr_God
The 'save' feature isn't being killed. So you'll still be able to take a "snapshot" of the puzzle and revert back to that spot.
10:31 am
MichMetz
Ok, thanks.
10:35 am
dplass
777777777
10:36 am
Kestrel
Yay! All finished.
10:37 am
danfeinberg
hint me!
10:38 am
danreed121
starting over
10:40 am
synkipate
Hey all
10:43 am
dplass
no guessing?!!!
10:44 am
Cool Hero
what i must do?
10:45 am
synkipate
click on a box, and select a number which u think is corrct
10:47 am
bzikofski
i had 8 numbers in a row, and i was staring for a long time looking for solution.. ;)
10:48 am
TheZikes
woohoo! done
10:49 am
murz
i was having two empty spaces left, then realised i may have to start over :'(
10:49 am
synkipate
hehe the charm of the game
10:49 am
Christopher
Dr_God, Just a thought ... it might be nice to have a chat annoucement when people finish the puzzle.
10:50 am
dplass
hate this
10:51 am
TheZikes
thank you whoever it was that mentioned Simple Sudoku, that program's great for learning some of the more advanced concepts
10:54 am
murz
is there any easier way to clear all spaces at once?
10:55 am
jeresig
murz: not yet
10:55 am
TheZikes
I made a greasemonkey script for that
10:55 am
TheZikes
if you have GM & Firefox
10:57 am
murz
i have greasemonkey enabled. can you tell me the script please?
10:57 am
TheZikes
it's at: http://tinyurl.com/zf6xh
10:58 am
TheZikes
it adds four clearing options to the User Script Commands menu, and you can hold down on ctrl+alt or ctrl+shift to pencilmark entire rows or columns
10:59 am
bzikofski
hoooray done
10:59 am
bzikofski
i should say it was fairly simple
10:59 am
TheZikes
definitely easier than the last two
10:59 am
agar
No sevens... Only one eight.... :-(
10:59 am
jeresig
agar: yeah, I only just got my first 7
11:01 am
murz
thezikes: thanks!
11:02 am
TheZikes
no problem! lemme know if you find any bugs with it :)
11:12 am
Limer
Rank me, baby!
11:31 am
agar
My first 7, yeah!!!
11:46 am
Krys10
Ooh, I like Christopher's suggestion about having a fireworks announcement for people when they finish! Especially since there's no list published when the puzzle turns over, so we can't see who played, how many people finished, etc.
12:11 pm
usagi
how did you get your first 7 ?
12:16 pm
usagi
man, I finally got a 7...and then it's a house of cards :)
12:22 pm
usagi
all that for 2 points :)
12:22 pm
tchansen
I got my seven by accident - I was trying to mark the possibility for a 2 and forgot to hold down the shift button. The only one left was the seven.
12:23 pm
usagi
I went through every square and marked all possibilities.....and then it took a long time to grind my way down to getting a 7
12:36 pm
essuu
done at last. :-)
12:37 pm
tchansen
How do you change the difficulty level?
12:39 pm
The Wac
you don't
12:42 pm
Chaos
I am so totally awesome!!!!
12:46 pm
evanadine
*ugh* i finished yesterdays much faster than todays...this one is just stumping me left + right!
12:50 pm
Danno
took me about the same, I had to make 1 guess on yesterdays, no guesses today
12:50 pm
Danno
lack of 7's and 8's is frustrating
12:52 pm
mamabear
Hi evanadine!!!! how are you doing?
12:53 pm
brainwidth
Done.
12:53 pm
evanadine
well, i had chipotle for lunch, so i can feel my arteries clogging...and i am totally stuck on this puzzle today...
but other than that, im good!
you??
12:53 pm
mamabear
I am eating chipotle as we speak!!!! A chicken & rice burrito!!!!
12:54 pm
evanadine
i got the 3 chicken soft tacos......
MMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmm
12:57 pm
mamabear
Just thought I'd try to attack this thing for a few minutes....... so different than Babble!!! But it is addictive as well - I never tried sudoku before this.
12:58 pm
evanadine
id tried it, but only ever easy levels...my brain just doesnt work this way!!
12:59 pm
hurshy
ohhh cecilia, i'm down on my knees, i'm beggin' you please to come home...
1:00 pm
hurshy
hi mama, evanadine :)
1:00 pm
mamabear
hi hurshy!!!! fancy meeting you here!
1:02 pm
evanadine
afternoon hurshy :)
1:10 pm
bex777
hiya everyone
1:10 pm
mamabear
back to work for me!!! see yas later maybe! have fun...
1:10 pm
bex777
how u doin hurshy???
1:11 pm
hurshy
fine, how are you bex?
1:11 pm
bex777
im fine thanks i have just been dancing!!
1:11 pm
hurshy
i was in babble when you left to go dance
1:11 pm
bex777
oh yea i remember!!!
1:11 pm
hurshy
what type of dancing do you do?
1:12 pm
bex777
ballet tap and jazz and cheerleading
1:12 pm
hurshy
wow, that is a lot
1:13 pm
bex777
so have u finished the puzle?
1:13 pm
hurshy
i never did anything like that, i'm very uncoordinated
1:13 pm
hurshy
no, not yet
1:13 pm
evanadine
man, weve got dancers all over the place, dont we?!
:D
1:13 pm
hurshy
we do, who else?
1:14 pm
bex777
unless u count or cheerleading on babble!!!
1:15 pm
evanadine
i teach!
1:15 pm
hurshy
oh, and schro teaches dance too, right?
1:15 pm
hurshy
lol bex :)
1:16 pm
hurshy
i did some swing dancing in college, though
1:20 pm
Pocketmole
Hi Everybody!
Is there...ummm...a way to clear the whole board? I've messed it up totally and want to start over, but don't have time to remove each of my numbers and "markers" individually.
I found the "Expert" grid the other day 'way easier than this "Medium" one! :/
1:20 pm
wwd
no... there isn't yet
1:20 pm
hurshy
have you saved, pocket? if not just hit refresh
1:20 pm
hurshy
otherwise clear manually :(
1:21 pm
bex777
has anyone actually finished todays puzzle?
1:21 pm
Pocketmole
Yeah, I saved at a stage when I thought I was ok, but keep getting the dreaded "red screen"! So I must have made a mistake even further back than my last save :( :(
1:22 pm
hurshy
oh, so sorry pocket
1:22 pm
bex777
i have stopped no numbers will go anywhere
1:23 pm
hurshy
come on bex - i'm doing ok, and you're better at it than me, so don't give up
1:24 pm
Pocketmole
There, that wasn
1:25 pm
evanadine
FINISHED!! :D
1:25 pm
bex777
7 is my lucky number and there are none so i am very bad today(thats my thought)
1:25 pm
hurshy
see bex, someone did it :)
1:25 pm
evanadine
i have finished all of them this week, but i have yet to do so without making a guess...heh
1:25 pm
bex777
well done!!!! i thought it was impossible
1:25 pm
pshaw
Funny.... I found 9 of them. (kidding...)
1:25 pm
Pocketmole
(oops)
That wasn't so bad - I've cleared the board. **takes deep breath and sings** "Starting all over again is going to be rough...."
1:27 pm
Atalante
*pops in from babble* I did it!
1:27 pm
bex777
babble or sudoku?
1:29 pm
bex777
i have just cleared the whole thing and am starting again
1:30 pm
Atalante
both LOL
1:30 pm
hurshy
atalante too smart
1:30 pm
bex777
i have done niether
1:31 pm
hurshy
don't worry bex, you get the same amount of points however fast or slow you go :)
1:31 pm
Atalante
sorry hurshy *grins* and I actually thought the sudoku was easier than babble today!
1:31 pm
bex777
but when my mam gets in she will want to go on babble so i wont get to finish :(
1:32 pm
wwd
can you actually finish babble?
1:32 pm
hurshy
i think you're right about that atalante, i'm not having too much trouble with this, i'm just slow
1:32 pm
bex777
i have finished babble 3 times
1:33 pm
wwd
i thought that with babble, you just kept going until you couldn't find any more words
1:33 pm
bex777
i am having bother with this one today i dont no y but i find the harder ones easier
1:33 pm
hurshy
no, wwd, there are a finite number of words each day. today there are 196.
1:34 pm
wwd
does it say that on the puzzle?
1:34 pm
hurshy
it does if you are a pro
1:34 pm
hurshy
otherwise you can just ask a pro, or look at the stats list
1:34 pm
bex777
ok i am gonna write the hole thing on paper
1:36 pm
Atalante
who's your mum bex777? we need to start a babble family tree!
1:37 pm
hurshy
shoot, that only used up half an hour of my day
1:37 pm
bex777
she hasnt got her own settin she sometimes uses mine!!!
1:37 pm
bex777
WELL DONE HURSHY!!!
1:37 pm
Atalante
oh! lol :)
1:37 pm
hurshy
:) thanks, bex
1:37 pm
hurshy
you should make her get her own account, bex
1:37 pm
Atalante
and yes - well done hurshy!!
1:37 pm
hurshy
thanks atalante
1:38 pm
bex777
i no but then i woulnt get a turn!!!!
1:39 pm
hurshy
why, what's the difference, bex?
1:39 pm
bex777
confused???
1:39 pm
hurshy
and don't you get annoyed that you don't get to find all the words yourself?
1:40 pm
hurshy
i mean, whether she uses your account or her own, how would that affect how much time she spends on babble?
1:40 pm
bex777
yes but i do need help sometimes
1:40 pm
hurshy
that's what we're there for :)
1:40 pm
bex777
i get all the easy ones then she helps me with the rest
1:40 pm
hurshy
that is like me and my little sister with crossword puzzles
1:40 pm
hurshy
she needs my help to finish them
1:41 pm
bex777
my mam cant do sudoku though so thats good
1:41 pm
hurshy
lol, it's always nice to be better than your parents at something
1:41 pm
bex777
i no!!! my dad has his own babble thing but he never uses it
1:42 pm
hurshy
what's his screen name?
1:42 pm
bex777
i dont no i will have to find out!!!
1:43 pm
hurshy
you guys are going to need another computer if you all babble :)
1:43 pm
bex777
i no!! my dad has a computer butit is very old so goes really slow
1:44 pm
hurshy
bex, i love how you always seem so enthusiastic about everything. it makes me feel happy.
1:44 pm
bex777
awwww thanks!!!
1:45 pm
hurshy
it probably makes you a good cheerleader :)
1:45 pm
bex777
my uncle babbles too!!!
1:45 pm
hurshy
wow, a whole babbling clan.
1:45 pm
hurshy
i have over 30 cousins. if i could get some of them to babble, we could have quite the party
1:45 pm
bex777
his name is bongoa!!! dont ask very strange
1:46 pm
bex777
i only have 4 cousins and i am an only child
1:46 pm
hurshy
i have 2 sisters but they don't babble
1:46 pm
hurshy
i wonder if i could get my mom to babble
1:46 pm
bex777
none of my cousins do either
1:46 pm
hurshy
she likes sudoku, maybe she would do this site at least
1:47 pm
hurshy
only, she doesn't like people, so she'd probably get annoyed by the chatterbox
1:47 pm
bex777
yea probably
1:47 pm
Dr_God
Rule #1 of Irons Sudoku and Babble: Share your addiction with all family members. ;)
1:47 pm
hurshy
dr_g, i wanted to make another suggestion
1:47 pm
bex777
lol!!! my grandma is like that she doesnt like people!!
1:47 pm
wwd
ha... funny dr. g
1:48 pm
hurshy
the double scroll bar... i don't like it. i mean that there is one bar for the chatterbox and another for the site as a whole.
1:48 pm
hurshy
on the other hand, bex, my mom is bored and needs more stuff to do, so i might get her roped in anyway.
1:48 pm
Dr_God
hurshy-
That's here to stay, and will soon be coming to Babble.
1:48 pm
hurshy
oh dear, i like babble the way it is.
1:49 pm
bex777
if the chatter box is coming to babble where do the words go?
1:49 pm
wwd
is it an iframe?
1:49 pm
Dr_God
I don't see the downside to have the chat log in its own scrollable window
1:49 pm
hurshy
it's harder to use that way
1:50 pm
hurshy
if i want to scroll all the way down, i have to move the site bar as well as the chatterbox bar
1:50 pm
Dr_God
The two are independent of each other. I don't follow.
1:50 pm
Atalante
Dr_G - while you're at it, could you put the word list in a scrollable window?
1:50 pm
Dr_God
Atalante-
That will be done also
1:51 pm
hurshy
i know but if the site bar is at the top, and i just move the chatterbox bar, eventually it goes off the screen and i can't get all the way to the bottom
1:51 pm
bex777
im confused
1:51 pm
Atalante
woohoo! really? omg! Dr_G I could hug you!
1:51 pm
hurshy
(don't worry bex)
1:52 pm
Dr_God
hurshy-
It sounds like you need to change the resolution of your monitor. You might be at 800x600. That's hampering you. ;)
1:52 pm
hurshy
how do i do that?
1:52 pm
Dr_God
You should be able to see the bottom of the chat log without having to scroll the main site
1:52 pm
Dr_God
Go to Start > Control Panels > Display
1:52 pm
Atalante
in your control panel, hurshy. under screen I think
1:52 pm
Dr_God
Assuming you're on a Windows machine
1:52 pm
bex777
does this affect me cause i dont understand?
1:52 pm
Atalante
duh. display
1:53 pm
hurshy
what resolution would you suggest
1:53 pm
hurshy
i went all the way to the most and it was too small to read
1:53 pm
Dr_God
or higher if you have a decent sized monitor
1:53 pm
Dr_God
yeah, the max is usually a bit too small
1:54 pm
hurshy
wow, even this is kinda small after being used to the other
1:54 pm
hurshy
but it does put the whole chatter scroll bar within the window
1:54 pm
Atalante
bex, no it doesnt. its just techie stuff!
1:54 pm
Dr_God
it may take a few minutes to get used to, but your web browsing experience will be much better from now on
1:54 pm
hurshy
i don't know... i feel like this could cause my eyesight to deteriorate further :)
1:55 pm
Atalante
hurshy, you'll get used to it. at least give it a try for a while
1:55 pm
hurshy
okey dokey
1:56 pm
hurshy
ok, i will now attempt to recruit mother
1:56 pm
bex777
the good thing about babble is u can ask for help but u cant relly with sudoku can u?
1:56 pm
bex777
wooo!! go hurshey!!!
1:57 pm
hurshy
dr_g is going to change it so that we can see the puzzle after we finish, so then we can help you
1:57 pm
bex777
i have no 7's on this puzzle yet
1:58 pm
hurshy
dr_g, any eta on that feature
1:58 pm
hurshy
unsuccessful attempt, mother not interested.
1:59 pm
hurshy
she should know better, i'm the one who introduced her to paying bills online and the discover card, clearly i have good ideas.
1:59 pm
bex777
o well her loss!!!
2:00 pm
hurshy
i have to go now, my husband needs to use the computer. good luck bex!!!
2:00 pm
bex777
okay see u tomoorow!!! bye!!!
2:00 pm
bex777
have u finished babble?
2:01 pm
hurshy
i'll be back on later if you need babble clues
2:01 pm
bex777
okay see u then!!!
2:14 pm
lak
no 7s and only one 8, yet it's a medium? craziness :/
2:15 pm
bex777
i thought yesterdays was easier than this
2:17 pm
guerro
my head hurts
2:17 pm
bex777
mine too im getting no where
2:17 pm
EvilBernd
yeah - they removed the 7s...
2:18 pm
bex777
its too hard
2:19 pm
EvilBernd
i think i have just found one
2:19 pm
lak
i'd like a "check my work" option, to tell me if i placed a piece wrong
2:19 pm
bex777
i have managed to put 2 7's in
2:19 pm
lak
or a 'back up" option, i guess
2:20 pm
bex777
that would be great!!!
2:22 pm
Keith
i solved it
2:23 pm
EvilBernd
well - 9 hours left - perhaps if i take a nap...
2:23 pm
bex777
i will need more than 9 hours to finish this!!!
2:24 pm
Keith
is there a way to check your answer?
2:24 pm
EvilBernd
count the numbers and how often they appear
2:24 pm
bex777
have u filled in all the boxes??? cause if u have it should tel u u r finished
2:25 pm
Keith
I printed it and did it on paper
2:26 pm
bex777
well unfortunatly u now have to type it all in
2:27 pm
Keith
yeah bummer.
2:28 pm
Keith
does everyone see each others progress somehow?
2:29 pm
EvilBernd
well - the guys/gals whining here probably hasn't solved it yet
2:31 pm
allanx2000
would be nice if the "possible numbers" would clear themselves once you enter a number in that contrdicts it....
2:31 pm
allanx2000
would be nice if the "possible numbers" would clear themselves once you enter a number in that contrdicts it....
2:31 pm
EvilBernd
well its about using your brain, so why ease it??
2:32 pm
knib2
and this way i can use those numbers for whatever i want, applying logic to it would prevent that
2:33 pm
allanx2000
ok... suit yourself
2:33 pm
bex777
so is anyone else nearly done?
2:33 pm
EvilBernd
not counting the 7s and 8s i would say yes :-)
2:33 pm
allanx2000
wow... all that for 2pts...
2:33 pm
allanx2000
wow... all that for 2pts...
took me 3 hrs...
2:34 pm
guerro
not me, i have too many where i have narrowed it donw to 2 boxes but cant figure out which one
2:34 pm
lak
that's heinous
2:35 pm
allanx2000
now... can som1 tyell me why the expert problem took only 20 minutes?
2:35 pm
bex777
i no same here yesterdays puzzle was easier!!
2:39 pm
lak
screw it, maybe tomorrow's medium will take minutes, not hours :/
2:40 pm
bex777
Yey finished!!!!
2:40 pm
Anj
Bit of a beastie??
2:40 pm
bex777
yes took me ages!!!!
2:40 pm
lola
Anj...look...no 7's! : /
2:41 pm
Anj
Doesn't look very friendly, does it? : /
2:41 pm
bex777
hiya lola!!! just starting?
2:41 pm
EvilBernd
grats bex
2:42 pm
lola
Um, did my last message post?
2:42 pm
bex777
oh right i get u now!!! ur just starting
2:42 pm
bex777
oh well off to babble see u all later
2:43 pm
lola
Aah, that's better...my chat log froze : /
2:43 pm
Anj
Was it about the lack of 7s?
2:44 pm
guerro
i have 2 rows and 1 column that lack only 2 numbers but the missing numbers can still go in either spot in each row
2:46 pm
guerro
and still no 7s
2:50 pm
Phox
Finished my first puzzle here
2:57 pm
greenlightguy
that was fun!
2:57 pm
greenlightguy
makes me feel soooo smart when I get it all done
3:00 pm
EvilBernd
i just placed a random 7 where it could be and am for a contradiction now, while i fill the filed
3:00 pm
EvilBernd
add a "waiting" somewhere in there
3:01 pm
EvilBernd
k - solved it
3:02 pm
EvilBernd
my brain feels ashamed
3:04 pm
joshfallon
Done! Just picked up on a good strategy to try if you get stuck...
3:05 pm
atmo
let's have it, then
3:05 pm
joshfallon
If you have 2 squares in a row, column or box that both have only 2 possibilities, and they are the same #s (like 2,7)
3:06 pm
joshfallon
then nothing else in that respective row, column, or box can be those #s
3:06 pm
joshfallon
maybe thats obvious, but it just helped me tremendously
3:06 pm
joshfallon
hope it helps! does that make sense?
3:07 pm
Kemayo
Obvious... but easy to not notice when you've whittled possiblities down to that level.
3:07 pm
joshfallon
yeah, i can't believe i didn't realize it sooner
3:09 pm
joshfallon
so if you have 3 squares remaining in a box marked in green with (2,7), (2,7), and (2,5,7,8) then you can pull off the 2 and 7 from the last square
3:09 pm
joshfallon
it doesn't always yield a final number right away, but it certainly helps the process of elimination
3:10 pm
meredith0715
Does anyone else's screen blink?
3:10 pm
joshfallon
is it taboo to talk strategy? :)
3:11 pm
hurshy
meredith - it may help to upgrade from firefox 1.0 to 1.5
3:11 pm
hurshy
and, i don't think so, josh!
3:11 pm
hurshy
meredith is one of my favorite names, meredith
3:12 pm
lola
Hi hursh : )
3:12 pm
meredith0715
Thank you!
3:12 pm
hurshy
you finish this, lola?
3:12 pm
meredith0715
and thank you for the tip
3:12 pm
meredith0715
I'll try that
3:12 pm
hurshy
yw meredith :)
3:13 pm
lola
LOL! You are kidding, right??!! : /
3:13 pm
hurshy
no... does that mean you haven't?
3:13 pm
hurshy
or that it's so easy that of course you have?
3:13 pm
lola
I think we can safely say that I'm gonna be here for a while : )
3:14 pm
hurshy
i can't wait until dr_g makes it so we can see our done puzzle so we can help each other
3:14 pm
lola
Have you finished it hurshy?
3:15 pm
hurshy
i found it easier than yesterday
3:15 pm
hurshy
but i have been practicing on another site in the meantime
3:15 pm
lola
Ooo, you smart little maths-type person! ; )
3:15 pm
jellyzero
im new to this
3:15 pm
hurshy
i'm slow at it though
3:15 pm
Shaiman
how is it that they deterimine difficulty? this one seems much harder than some of the expert ones
3:15 pm
hurshy
i get there eventually but not fast
3:16 pm
hurshy
shaiman-nobody knows :)
3:16 pm
lola
yeah, me to hurshy. I plod along carefully : )
3:16 pm
hurshy
i'm fast at babble
3:17 pm
hurshy
jellyzero - many of us are! my first sudoku was 3 days ago. :)
3:18 pm
lola
hursh, did you do this one without having to guess?
3:18 pm
jellyzero
haha good, because I feel stupid!
3:19 pm
Jordan
I guessed for the first time yesterday..
3:19 pm
Jordan
<-- is ashamed
3:19 pm
kardante
i am starting
3:19 pm
hurshy
i had to guess yesterday too
3:19 pm
lola
*whispers* I did to jordan ; )
3:19 pm
hurshy
i haven't talked to anyone who DIDN'T guess yesterday
3:20 pm
Jordan
well, that makes me feel a little better :)
3:21 pm
guerro
its hard trying to see 3 and 4 step logic
3:22 pm
Jordan
that's why I don't play chess :)
3:23 pm
hurshy
i don't play chess either... i like games to be relaxing
3:23 pm
hurshy
this can be relaxing, you just have to use the red and green numbers
3:23 pm
Jiraya
i didn't guess yesterday
3:23 pm
hurshy
oh, well done, jiraya!
3:23 pm
jellyzero
i dont have any red or green numbers!?
3:23 pm
Jiraya
it was hard though, much harder than the day before
3:23 pm
Jordan
jellyzero: hold ctrl or alt while clicking a number
3:24 pm
jellyzero
does red mean it's wrong?
3:25 pm
hurshy
red number means you know it can't be that
3:25 pm
hurshy
red background means something is wrong
3:25 pm
jellyzero
ok i get it
3:25 pm
meredith0715
does it mean that the number doesn't go there or that there is a duplicate?
3:26 pm
jellyzero
i didnt have any red background
3:26 pm
Shaiman
alright.. finally made a break and solved it!
3:26 pm
hurshy
that there is a duplicate
3:26 pm
meredith0715
Ok, ty
3:26 pm
hurshy
lol dplass
3:26 pm
hurshy
congrats, shaiman
3:27 pm
Shaiman
that was certainly one of the most difficult ones i've done yet
3:30 pm
meredith0715
ugh, Im starting all over lol
3:31 pm
acheekymonkey
is there a way to clear all?
3:31 pm
hurshy
cheeky, if you have not saved, simply refresh
3:32 pm
hurshy
if you have saved - you must clear manually (but dr_g is working on it)
3:32 pm
acheekymonkey
k, thanks
3:32 pm
Jordan
there's a Greasmonkey script if you have Firefox
3:32 pm
acheekymonkey
still on Safari... :)
3:35 pm
Jordan
I'm finally getting the hang of these red numbers
3:35 pm
Assman
I thought sudoku was some kind of sushi!
3:36 pm
kneestabber
This supid puzzle is driving me nuts! lol
3:37 pm
meredith0715
is this like a practical joke and there really is no solution??? lol
3:37 pm
Assman
nah, u just suck meredith
3:37 pm
hurshy
no, there's a solution, i finished it
3:37 pm
Kemayo
It really all falls into place after you isolate a 7.
3:37 pm
acheekymonkey
no sevens and only one 8 is hard
3:37 pm
kneestabber
Tell me where a 7 goes! lol jk
3:37 pm
meredith0715
WOW thanks Assman, you are such an assman
3:38 pm
Assman
i wear my name proudly
3:40 pm
gymir
Is there a way to clear the puzzle ?
3:40 pm
Jordan
shake it like an etch-a-sketch ;) (in other words, not yet)
3:40 pm
acheekymonkey
lol
3:41 pm
acheekymonkey
shake it like a polaroid
3:41 pm
gymir
manual clear it is then
3:44 pm
bekee
omg that was hard.
3:44 pm
Keith
good puzzle
3:45 pm
bekee
i'd love to see a clickstream analysis of how people arrive at the solution :)
3:46 pm
gymir
In that case, you would want my aberrant clicks out
3:46 pm
Anj
...blindfold and pin } /
3:46 pm
lola
I'm going to have to start guessing : /
3:47 pm
guerro
how many of those who have finished had to guess ?
3:47 pm
hurshy
i did not guess
3:47 pm
shields8
no lola...no guessing necessary
3:47 pm
Anj
Nooo i've placed 14 logically so far...
3:47 pm
guerro
i am to a point where I have 2 posibilities for just about every number left
3:48 pm
lola
I've done 12
3:48 pm
Keith
guerro, if they are in the same 3x3 block that helps
3:48 pm
acheekymonkey
once you get a seven it's all downhill :)
3:48 pm
guerro
most are side by side posibilities
3:48 pm
Keith
you can rule out those numbers from any remaining blanks
3:48 pm
jellyzero
I DID IT!!
3:49 pm
Jordan
almost there
3:49 pm
lola
How the *"&! do you get a 7??
3:50 pm
acheekymonkey
you have to fill in most of one box to get the seven
3:50 pm
guerro
the most i have in one box is 5
3:51 pm
hurshy
k2skier should be named cheekymonkey!
3:51 pm
acheekymonkey
DoNE! After the 7 it's all drudgery!!! ;)
3:52 pm
acheekymonkey
he is cheeky! eee!
3:53 pm
Jordan
ah, crap.. pwnd
3:53 pm
shields8
nice...finished it in 23 minutes
3:54 pm
guerro
23 mins ???????????
3:54 pm
Limer
Took me about 32 minutes
3:54 pm
shields8
yup...started at 3:30
3:54 pm
hurshy
took me about half an hour too
3:54 pm
Limer
Part of that was reading how to "pencil" in numbers
3:55 pm
shields8
lol....me too
3:55 pm
lola
hursh, do you use red and green numbers or just red?
3:55 pm
Limer
Anyone do these on a handheld device?
3:56 pm
k2skier
i do, i have a Palm Tungsten E
3:56 pm
TP17
I just use green
3:56 pm
shields8
limer...yeah
3:56 pm
k2skier
you have to manually enter the puzzles though
3:56 pm
hurshy
well, lola, i find it helps to put in as many red as i can, and then, like yesterday, i used green to plot out what would happen with a guess
3:56 pm
shields8
on my cell phone
3:56 pm
TP17
You really shouldn't have to use more than one color
3:56 pm
Jordan
grr.. looks like I have to backtrack
3:56 pm
TP17
unless you do what Hurshy does..... that's a good idea
3:57 pm
lola
aah, that's a good idea hursh! : )
3:57 pm
Jordan
y'know, the feature I want is a "rewind" button that'll undo all of your steps until the point where you screwed up
3:57 pm
Thundercross
I'm using notepad. I made myself a little chart.
3:57 pm
Limer
I downloaded a free sudoku from an Aussie mate.
3:57 pm
hurshy
thundercross - do you not like the red and green numbers?
3:58 pm
shields8
on what platform limer?
3:58 pm
hurshy
all - you can also try www.websudoku.com
3:58 pm
shields8
or www.sudokuoftheday.com
3:58 pm
Jordan
well, I'm a go try to get some work done before I try to attempt this again
3:58 pm
Jordan
good luck, all
3:58 pm
Limer
Shileds8 - I am running a Zire 72. Palm OS 5
3:58 pm
Thundercross
The red and green numbers are too easy to clear.
3:58 pm
shields8
ah, i have OS 5, too
3:59 pm
shields8
how's it look on the Zire?
3:59 pm
hurshy
websudoku has as many as you want, instead of just one a day
3:59 pm
TP17
who rates these puzzles?
4:00 pm
shields8
i think it's automatic
4:00 pm
shields8
part of the algorithm that spits out the puzzles
4:00 pm
BigVee
A good way is to use only green but only put them in a box if the number can only go in 2 squares. That way you can see if the number controls a line or if 2 different numbers control 2 squares (no other number can go in those two squares) etc.
4:00 pm
TP17
I think it's wrong
4:00 pm
Limer
Looks awesome! Zire 72 has a 320X320 screen.
4:01 pm
hurshy
THAT must be why al gore thought he invented the internet - because it uses so many algorithms.
4:01 pm
BigVee
Also if one of the greens gets covered that means it can only be the other green one.
4:01 pm
BigVee
Also if one of the greens gets covered that means it can only be the other green one.
4:01 pm
shields8
limer...any chance i could get that from you?
4:01 pm
shields8
or your friend?
4:02 pm
hurshy
nobody? i thought that was a good one...
4:02 pm
Limer
Trying to locate the link now. Have to go. Will be online tomorrow. I will see if I can get it for you. Later
4:03 pm
hurshy
torgone? surely you laugh at my joke...
4:05 pm
guerro
will the solution be posted tomorrow ?
4:05 pm
hurshy
yes, i think you'll be able to see it in the archives? see if you can see yesterday's.
4:08 pm
torgone
Man! Once you get that first 7, it's all downhill ..
4:08 pm
guerro
Man! thanks a lot!
4:08 pm
TP17
yeah, but it's a beeee-atch getting that first 7
4:08 pm
hurshy
torgone, torgone, did you laught at my joke at 4:01?
4:08 pm
lola
aaaaargh!!!!!
4:08 pm
Anj
I hear you babe : /
4:09 pm
torgone
Oh, and *groan* algorithms!
4:13 pm
torgone
Someone posted a hint earlier about when you have two spaces in a row, column, or group that can be only two numbers. Then, nothing else in that row, column, or group (respectively) can be those two numbers. That led me to getting the 6th number in a column, which gave me the 7 by default. Walk in the park from there ..
4:14 pm
torgone
I meant 8th number ..
4:15 pm
lola
but I have more than 2 numbers in most of the boxes : (
4:18 pm
vonesh
how was yesterday a medium-today was so much easier!
4:19 pm
BigVee
Nice to know I was of assitance... Now to solve it myself!
4:19 pm
chebuctonian
torgone - in how to play, there's a very useful link to a wikipedia article with a lot of different strategies
4:20 pm
TP17
just got my first 7!!!!
4:20 pm
lola
penny drops for lola....v..e..r..y....s..l..o.w..l..y....
4:21 pm
WareMan
7's would be great, but I'm aching just for an 8.
4:22 pm
lola
hursh, don't you say that? When you finally get something you say 'the penny drops'?
4:24 pm
hurshy
either a britishism or i just never heard it
4:24 pm
hurshy
sometimes we wait for "the other shoe" to drop...
4:24 pm
hurshy
but that's more like if you are expecting something bad
4:24 pm
Anj
My penny is distinctly defying gravity's pull at the moment } (
4:25 pm
hurshy
oooh, a hover-penny
4:25 pm
hurshy
forget sudoku, you can make millions with that anj
4:25 pm
hurshy
go on tour
4:25 pm
chebuctonian
wOOt! done
4:25 pm
dom
were are you guys from?
4:25 pm
chebuctonian
so is there only one puzzle a day?
4:26 pm
TP17
Anybody want a hint?
4:26 pm
chebuctonian
dom: Halifax, NS, Canada
4:26 pm
Anj
*inlocks secret panel - reaches for 'nuke' button*
4:26 pm
TP17
And I promise not to tell where any numbers are
4:26 pm
lola
i meant about what tor said....don't know if I'm on the right track yet though : /
4:26 pm
cowbell
vancouver
4:26 pm
TP17
Pittsburgh here
4:26 pm
TP17
The first 7 I got was somewhere in the three columns on the right
4:27 pm
hurshy
only one puzzle a day, but plenty of other sudoku on the web, eg www.websudoku.com
4:27 pm
chebuctonian
thanks, hurshy.
4:27 pm
batmn
how do you get that ridiculous flashing to stop!
4:28 pm
chebuctonian
are there days for evil puzzles?
4:28 pm
jhlipsey
there... finished my very first sodoku
4:28 pm
BigVee
batman: you on a firefox version prior to 1.5?
4:28 pm
hurshy
evil is called expert here, we had one 2 days ago
4:29 pm
BigVee
Thats your problem. Get the latest version.
4:29 pm
chebuctonian
cool... see you tomorrow :)
4:30 pm
batmn
thanks will do. On my parents computer and I didn't realize they were still on version 1.0!
4:30 pm
lola
yes! yes! YES!!! : D
4:30 pm
Keith
youre welcome torgone :)
4:30 pm
Aelis
No! No! Nooo!! D:
4:30 pm
guerro
you like that?
4:31 pm
dom
how old are you guys
4:31 pm
Anj
clears down for nth time : ' (
4:31 pm
hurshy
you got it, lola??
4:32 pm
hurshy
pshaw, you are 3.14152965358979323846 years old?
4:32 pm
Thundercross
Sheesh, I messed up big time. I have no idea where I messed up, or how long ago.
4:32 pm
hurshy
i'm amazed you can do sudoku at such a young age
4:33 pm
hurshy
congrats lola!!!!!
4:33 pm
Aelis
I'm new to this. I can't even finish my second line. I feel inadequate.
4:33 pm
hurshy
oops typo in pi.
4:33 pm
hurshy
9 comes before 2
4:33 pm
hurshy
aelis - it definitely gets easier the more you do
4:33 pm
lola
thanks hursh! Took me a bit longer than half an hour though : /
4:33 pm
Hanatori
Haha, Aelis, haha.
4:34 pm
hurshy
'sok lola - you get the same 2 points!
4:34 pm
Aelis
Thanks, I'm trying to overcome this evil thing. D:
4:34 pm
Aelis
Damn you, Zuri.
4:35 pm
Aelis
What is "cough" supposed to mean? >_> Anyway, for people who think I am insane, Hanatori's my "friend" whose name is Zuri. So I shall refer to her as Zuri from now on.
4:35 pm
pshaw
hurshy, Not only am I 355/113 years old, I'm also an incredible simulation.
4:35 pm
Hanatori
Shut up, Alice. Grr. By the way... how's your sudoku coming along...? XD
4:35 pm
hurshy
:) glad you appreciate math jokes, at any rate
4:35 pm
lola
lol, true hurshy : )
4:35 pm
Aelis
Not very well, my dear friend, not very well.
4:36 pm
Aelis
Do you get better at this with practice?
4:36 pm
Hanatori
Dear friend, indeed. *cough*
4:36 pm
BigRefT
yeah... 34 minutes :-)
4:36 pm
BigRefT
that was pretty tough
4:37 pm
hurshy
careful, seraphe, or it will be very uncomfortable to sit in future
4:37 pm
Aelis
Ooh, you just got burned, seraphe/Irene.
4:37 pm
Hanatori
XD I actually got that!
4:38 pm
Hanatori
OMG IRENE
4:38 pm
guerro
w00t got a 7!
4:38 pm
Aelis
OMG!!!!111 ._.
4:38 pm
seraphe
lmaooo alice
4:38 pm
Hanatori
Sure, don't give me any credit
4:38 pm
Aelis
You might want to be careful with that.
4:38 pm
Aelis
The laughing your ass off, I mean.
4:38 pm
seraphe
ok lmaoooo zuri xP
4:38 pm
seraphe
ok lmaoooo zuri xP
4:38 pm
seraphe
woahs double
4:39 pm
Hanatori
off off off off? Wow.
4:39 pm
rnarzisi
that was fun
4:39 pm
seraphe
are we all workin on the same puzzle x.x
4:39 pm
rnarzisi
how do you get a harder one?
4:39 pm
Aelis
well...my top rightmost box has an 8,9, and 4 automatically filled out...difficulty is medium
4:39 pm
rnarzisi
do they get more difficult as the week progresses?
4:40 pm
seraphe
nuhh diff puzzle, but i'm medium too
4:40 pm
rnarzisi
did this just go live on the 11th?
4:40 pm
Aelis
oh...that's too bad ._.
4:40 pm
guerro
got another 7 !
4:40 pm
Hanatori
That is indeed mine too
4:40 pm
hurshy
the difficulty level is random
4:40 pm
hurshy
the difficulty level is random
4:41 pm
Hanatori
That is indeed mine too
4:41 pm
hurshy
the difficulty level is random
everyone gets the same puzzle each day
4:41 pm
Hanatori
That is indeed mine too
4:41 pm
hurshy
the difficulty level is random
everyone gets the same puzzle each day
4:41 pm
guerro
damn another 7 w00t
4:41 pm
Hanatori
omg stupid thing
4:41 pm
Hanatori
to work now.
4:41 pm
hurshy
the difficulty level is random
everyone gets the same puzzle each day
4:41 pm
Aelis
Aha, thank you. YESIMDONEWITHTWOBOXES >:D
4:42 pm
hurshy
we all have the same puzzle i am pretty sure
4:42 pm
hurshy
oh, had some trouble with my chat there
4:45 pm
sandr
hey hurshy how,s life
4:45 pm
lola
Anj? How you doing babe?
4:46 pm
lola
Anj? How you doing babe?
4:47 pm
hurshy
fine thanks, and you sandr?
4:48 pm
hurshy
my chat is still wonky though
4:48 pm
sandr
yeh just doing fine thanx just nipped over from babble to fill in the grid
4:50 pm
lola
Aww, I have to get some sleep now babe...but I left you mail : ) G'night, sweet dreams (((xx)))
4:51 pm
Anj
nite babe ((xx)) : ) Sweet dreams
4:52 pm
lola
'bye hurshy, see you tomorrow :)
4:52 pm
Aelis
I am terribly vexed by the one number that is messing up my entire puzzle. My impatience threatens to consume me whole, like a giant termite from the core of the earth! D:
4:52 pm
guerro
suh weeeet got 2 pts
4:52 pm
guerro
suh weeeet got 2 pts
4:52 pm
Hanatori
Very poetic.
4:53 pm
seraphe
lmao alice
4:53 pm
guerro
suh weeeet got 2 pts
4:53 pm
Aelis
Thank you. I was inspired by the ancient Japanese poets. You can see their influence in my eloquent speech.
4:53 pm
seraphe
guess who's got it going good? :D
4:53 pm
hurshy
wow, i am bowled away by your metaphor, aelis
4:54 pm
Aelis
Yes, many before have told me of how deeplyl my portrayals of deformed insects affect them.
4:55 pm
Hanatori
And yet in real life you freak out a lot and make things a lot worse.
4:55 pm
Playwoman
My sudoku grid has only three 5s on it and lots of question marks. Is that the way today's puzzle is supposed to look?
4:56 pm
Aelis
Zuri...in real life, you flirt with Ted every day...do you see me bring that up? No. Please, return me with the same courtesy. :(
4:56 pm
seraphe
depends on yur difficulty...?
4:56 pm
Hanatori
Eh. You flirt with Jenny.
4:57 pm
Aelis
that joke ended in 7th grade.
4:57 pm
Hanatori
Which is pretty close to 8th.
4:57 pm
Aelis
Connection error? Dr_God? What? o_o
4:58 pm
pshaw
Had to break out my own algorithm to solve it. It reported 4 guesses to solve the grid. Seems like alot for 2 points.
4:58 pm
pshaw
Had to break out my own algorithm to solve it. It reported 4 guesses to solve the grid. Seems like alot for 2 points.
4:58 pm
pshaw
Had to break out my own algorithm to solve it. It reported 4 guesses to solve the grid. Seems like alot for 2 points.
4:58 pm
pshaw
Had to break out my own algorithm to solve it. It reported 4 guesses to solve the grid. Seems like alot for 2 points.
4:58 pm
pshaw
Had to break out my own algorithm to solve it. It reported 4 guesses to solve the grid. Seems like alot for 2 points.
4:58 pm
pshaw
Had to break out my own algorithm to solve it. It reported 4 guesses to solve the grid. Seems like alot for 2 points.
4:58 pm
Aelis
What just happened, you evil fools!?
4:59 pm
Aelis
Sorry. I wanted to say that.
4:59 pm
pshaw
Crap. Sorry about that.
4:59 pm
Aelis
Dr_God is a very unique and blasphemous username.
4:59 pm
Hanatori
Oh well.
5:05 pm
Playwoman
all is well now,Dr_God.
5:07 pm
seraphe
gahhh my sudoku had some error after the d/c...
5:07 pm
Krys10
what's with all the duplicates in teh chat log? new feature gone wrong?
5:07 pm
seraphe
x_______x nd now it's blank ... forever
5:07 pm
seraphe
rawrr i shall depart and return another day ^__^
5:08 pm
seraphe
[yes, that means you win, alice >__>]
5:08 pm
pshaw
Well... that's the beauty of AJAX. All those chat request got sent out aync, and I didn't realize it until it upchucked on the screen.
5:08 pm
Anj
Krus10, Babble did it as well so i'm guessing the server took a hit...
5:09 pm
Krys10
huh. did Babble just disconnect too?
5:09 pm
jeresig
everything just reset for me - and I got logged out
5:09 pm
Dr_God
Sorry about that folks, I was messing with stuff on the back-end and made a boo-boo. ;)
5:09 pm
Dr_God
Ironically, I was fiddling with server optimization. :)
5:10 pm
Krys10
Dr._God, today it seems lots of people are having their messages appear multiple times in teh chat log - any idea what's up?
5:11 pm
Dr_God
That's only my list of things to fix. It happens when someone hits the Enter key more than once before the message can be sent. It effectively sends it each time you hit Enter.
5:11 pm
Krys10
ah yes, I think that happened to me yesterday
5:12 pm
Krys10
There was a post earlier suggesting that the chat log announce when people finish the day's puzzle - any chance?
5:12 pm
Playwoman
It happened to me, too because there is delay bfore the message sensds
5:12 pm
Dr_God
Krys10-
I'll think about that one. Not quite convinced it's necessary though.
5:13 pm
Dr_God
Usually someone lets out a big "Woo hoo!" when they finish.
5:13 pm
Krys10
or a list after the puzzle closes, with the times they finished maybe? It'd be nice to see how many people finished a particular puzzle, especially since we are growing to distrust the difficulty ratings :)
5:14 pm
Anj
There is NO sodoku impasse so bad that a 'woo-hoo!' can't make worse : /
5:14 pm
Krys10
(also it's nice to get fireworks when you finish... I got used to it in Babble)
5:15 pm
Krys10
BTW, DrG, thanks for all your work in the last week on this. Have you slept at all?
5:16 pm
Dr_God
I'm starting to get some sleep now. :)
5:16 pm
Dr_God
I'll be back 100% soon
5:16 pm
Dr_God
I'll be back 100% soon
5:16 pm
Krys10
mmay your dreams be unpeppered with little green and red numbers.
5:17 pm
Carlos
Does anyone know why I am getting the chat log flashing across my puzzle?
5:17 pm
Dr_God
Carlos-
Upgrade to Firefox 1.5
5:17 pm
Carlos
DR G - thanks
5:18 pm
hurshy
dr_g, seems like you should post something on the site that says "if your screen is flashing, upgrade to firefox 1.5" so we don't get that question five million times a day :)
5:20 pm
Dr_God
On my list of things to do. ;)
5:30 pm
Anj
Hooo-piggin'-ray!
5:30 pm
peternl
Is it intentional that if you select a number twice it clear is?
5:31 pm
peternl
ok, I wont report it as a bug then ;)
5:33 pm
Anj
eek! Connection error again : /
5:33 pm
Anj
eek! Connection error again : /
5:34 pm
hurshy
are we to assume you are done, though, anj?
5:34 pm
Playwoman
I just got 2 more connection error messages
5:35 pm
Anj
hursh, yes, but it was a hollow victory...I guessed : /
5:37 pm
hurshy
"have you never known the triumph of a lucky guess?" -emma (at least in the movie...)
5:38 pm
Anj
"oh f...!" - very ex-bomb disposal expert
5:39 pm
Anj
In other words I hate guessing : )
5:39 pm
hurshy
i gathered
5:39 pm
alicson
my eyes hurt
5:39 pm
hurshy
may i suggest a break, then, alicson?
5:39 pm
alicson
must finish puzzle!
5:42 pm
hurshy
hmm... ibuprofen, perhaps, then?
5:42 pm
Anj
OK, gotta scoot - later Hurshy : )
5:42 pm
alicson
that works for eyes??
5:42 pm
Anj
bye alicson : )
5:43 pm
batmn
Arrrgh I hate when you get stuck in the same place for like half an hour.
5:47 pm
Jiraya
finally made a move
5:47 pm
batmn
Wish I could say the same ...
5:52 pm
hurshy
i don't get how on websudoku.com, the average time for a medium puzzle is like 11 minutes. how can all those people be so fast?
5:52 pm
Dr_God
Sorry again. :)
5:53 pm
peternl
I think you forgot to put any 7's in this game... ;)
5:53 pm
jffpmr
yeah the 7s are killing me
5:54 pm
jase
this is definitely a tricky one.. but you can solve it without 'guessing'..
5:54 pm
jase
i find that using the pencil marks helps with this puzzle... and i think Dr_God's medium puzzles are actually 'diabolical'
5:55 pm
Kemayo
hurshy: wouldn't surprise me if it was because websudoku.com's puzzles are *great* for printing out. So people complete them printed, then type them back in for verification.
5:55 pm
peternl
I wrote a program to solve sudoko, guessing and back tracking is actually very efficient for it. And the 8's are not heloping either
5:55 pm
Kemayo
Alternately, most of their medium puzzles are pretty easy. :-P
5:55 pm
hurshy
and they hit pause while they solve them on paper, perhaps?
5:55 pm
peternl
gotta go feed the kids breakfast...
5:55 pm
hurshy
well, then, i don't feel quite so dumb
5:56 pm
Kemayo
Yeah, today's "medium" seems like it would be an "evil" over on websudoku.com.
5:58 pm
jase
the technique that really helped me out here was marking possibilities -- if a box only has 3 open spaces, and two of them has to be 1 or 2, then the third one has to be 3
5:58 pm
hurshy
but they are easier to solve w/o paper here because of the red and green numbers
5:58 pm
jase
good luck ya'll!
6:03 pm
Jiraya
i got the sevens in now!
6:04 pm
peternl
good on ya!
6:07 pm
Jiraya
once you get the 7s, it all comes rolling out...
6:12 pm
Playwoman
Woo hoo! It took an hour!
6:28 pm
Dr_God
Digg users-
Can you digg it? Thanks.
http://digg.com/gaming/Free_Sudoku_pu
zzles_and_a_friendly_community
6:28 pm
benhiller
sure i'll digg it
6:28 pm
benhiller
it was del.icio.us/popular'ed, btw
6:29 pm
Dr_God
Yeah. I got a lot of sign-ups from del.icio.us.
6:29 pm
benhiller
yea, like me :P
6:30 pm
Dr_God
It's much easier to get high up on del.icio.us than digg. Much easier.
6:33 pm
Dr_God
Thanks for the digg, Ben
6:33 pm
benhiller
no problem, hope it gets to the front page
6:33 pm
Dr_God
It won't. ;)
6:36 pm
benhiller
btw, what did you make this with? rails? php?
6:37 pm
zatrix
i smell ajax in there somewhere
6:38 pm
Dr_God
Definitely AJAX. But just plain ol' PHP. No RoR.
6:38 pm
benhiller
hm, cool, just wondering
6:38 pm
benhiller
btw, i looked at the html source, are there gonna be 'challenges' soon?
6:40 pm
Dr_God
That was a possibility in the beginning. I kept the code in there for future use. I may turn SuperTac into a website:
http://www.supertac.com
6:41 pm
Dr_God
Don't plan on seeing challenges on here though.
6:42 pm
StevenBrianHall
Yeah! And stuff..
6:45 pm
benhiller
man, this is tough
6:47 pm
Jiraya
have you thought about pente?
6:47 pm
Jiraya
www.pente.net
6:47 pm
Jiraya
www.pente.net
6:48 pm
zatrix
have you thought about cheese? didnt think so
6:49 pm
StevenBrianHall
I've thought about cheese!
6:49 pm
StevenBrianHall
I decided...no.
6:49 pm
hurshy
mmm cheese
6:49 pm
zatrix
who said you had any choice? lol
6:51 pm
StevenBrianHall
What a great bit of programming.
7:04 pm
caderoux
Took three times because of mistakes I guess - be nice to have undo...
7:12 pm
Kemayo
Is there any way to make the number-select box stay open when you're entering potentials? I'm almost never entering just one potential number, after all...
7:12 pm
Cathy
Yoo Hoo !! First time I've ever completed a Sudoku !!
7:16 pm
hurshy
no, kemayo, there isn't a way to do that
7:16 pm
raggedyandy3478
how do u get the potentials to show up?
7:20 pm
hurshy
hold down shift when you select and number and it will be small and green. hold down alt and it wil be red, indicating you know it isn't that.
7:20 pm
Kemayo
You must enter them yourself. In the "how to play" page, it explains how one can open the popup, then shift-click on a number to add a little green "potential number", or alt-click on a number to add a little red "definitely not this number".
7:21 pm
hurshy
i just realized two things. there is nothing to stop anyone from using the green to mean you know it's not that, and the red to mean it might be that. and this feature would be a bummer if you were red-green colorblind.
7:21 pm
raggedyandy3478
ty for the help
7:22 pm
Kemayo
Yeah, it's just cultural conditioning. :)
7:22 pm
helenkeller
connection error?
7:25 pm
raggedyandy3478
haha
7:30 pm
helenkeller
i keep getting these 'connection error' messages - one every 5 seconds in the chat
7:31 pm
helenkeller
i'm still able to work the puzzle
7:31 pm
hurshy
the server's been having some troubles, helen, but i thought it was all fixed...
7:31 pm
hurshy
hit refresh maybe? (save first)
7:36 pm
helenkeller
thanks for the idea hurshy - i left & just came back, but that's the 3rd time it's happened
7:36 pm
hurshy
dr_god isn't here, so i don't know what else you can do...
7:37 pm
helenkeller
i guess i could just keep playing while it sends me endless error messages - tradeoff is giving up the chat, but that's ok - chat is too distracting here
7:37 pm
helenkeller
if it happens again i'll try the refresh, thx
7:41 pm
scottru
woo hoo! finished!
8:24 pm
flarfu
harder than yesterday
8:25 pm
mrjaggers
is it possible to solve without guessing?
8:25 pm
Sulihin
should always be
8:25 pm
hurshy
i think sudoku difficulty really depends on the person and the day and luck, bc i found this easier than yesterday, and some found it harder today than 2 days ago when it was "expert".
8:26 pm
hurshy
i solved this one without guessing.
8:26 pm
flarfu
the alt key doesn't work for me
8:26 pm
flarfu
wish it did
8:26 pm
Sulihin
hmm works for me
8:26 pm
t4coffee
what does alt do?
8:27 pm
hurshy
how odd, flarfu
8:27 pm
flarfu
firefox on linux
8:27 pm
mrjaggers
interesting... at this point I have so many options available
8:27 pm
hurshy
if you hold alt while choosing a number, it is little and red, to indicate you know it's not that
8:27 pm
Leech
what does alt key?
8:27 pm
Sulihin
red marks a number
8:28 pm
mrjaggers
I can't use alt either -- firefox thinks I want to keyboard select the file menu
8:28 pm
t4coffee
cool, aint on my linux partition tho
8:29 pm
Sulihin
i'm using firefox and it'll select the file menu if i hold it, but it still works
8:31 pm
mrjaggers
hmm... in my case, if I use alt, it selects the number, but doesn't commit it to the server -- it just sticks with the popup open
8:33 pm
mrjaggers
or is it all client side?
8:34 pm
Sulihin
the puzzle markup is client side until you save I believe
8:38 pm
Sulihin
you select the box then alt-click a number and it doesn't do anything?
8:38 pm
mrjaggers
the number highlights blue, but the box doesn't close
8:39 pm
t4coffee
does it really matter if its windows or linux?
8:40 pm
mrjaggers
It may matter -- im running xp
8:40 pm
t4coffee
and does it work?
8:40 pm
Sulihin
i'm on xp as well
8:40 pm
mrjaggers
not real important for me, as I don't use the reds anyway
8:41 pm
mrjaggers
same here, but I've a ton of extensions also
8:41 pm
t4coffee
firefox 1.5.0.1 on xp, red don't work for me
8:41 pm
t4coffee
yeah, loads
8:41 pm
t4coffee
it doesn't matter tho, i prefer to solve em on my own
8:41 pm
Sulihin
i'll check at work tomorrow, i have more there
8:48 pm
mrjaggers
The pencil marks are kind of distracting
8:48 pm
hermit
how do you do pencil marks??
8:48 pm
mrjaggers
They work well to a point, then I get information overload
8:48 pm
Sulihin
shift for green alt for red (if it works) when selecting a number
9:10 pm
beverly
If you get one right, does it tell you ?
9:10 pm
zatrix
you know its sad when you bro says hi to you lol
9:10 pm
beverly
I'm new to this
9:10 pm
zatrix
well you're over the hard part, you signed up :P
9:10 pm
hexx54
HAHAHAHAHAHA
9:11 pm
MDFreaK76
this game is annoying but i cant quit
9:11 pm
bunnyvicious
I doesn't tell you if you get one wrong, but it shows you if you put two of the same in one column or block.
9:11 pm
zatrix
now get clicking
9:11 pm
hexx54
HAHAHAHAHAHA ZATRIX IS FUNNY HAHAHAHA
9:11 pm
zatrix
anton, hexx, dont be a fag
9:21 pm
cyclegirl
How do I get this puzzle to stop blinking??
9:21 pm
zatrix
update to firefox 1.5
9:21 pm
hexx54
ALT+F4 it works
9:21 pm
MDFreaK76
alt f4 killed my dog
9:24 pm
cyclegirl
F4 killed the puzzle.
9:24 pm
MDFreaK76
alt f4 pushed my grandma down the stairs
9:25 pm
zatrix
cyclegirl, hexx54 was being stupid, if you want the flickering to stop update your browser (im guessing you're using firefox?)
9:26 pm
hermit
alt f4 voted bush into presidency
9:26 pm
cyclegirl
I changed it from firefox to Explorer. Solved the problem. Thanks for the help!
9:26 pm
zatrix
woohoo done
9:29 pm
hermit
i want an EASY puzzle!@@@R
9:35 pm
amiantos
Wish this worked a bit more like WebSudoku...
9:36 pm
randy
this isn't too good
9:37 pm
MDFreaK76
alt f4 got my little sister pregnant
9:37 pm
hermit
oh good, i thought i was going to have to pay for the abortion
9:38 pm
MDFreaK76
nah its cool she's blind so i sharpened the plunger and left it in the toilet
9:42 pm
hexx54
this is tuff
9:43 pm
MDFreaK76
yeah pretty lame i suck at this
9:43 pm
MDFreaK76
yeah pretty lame i suck at this
9:43 pm
MDFreaK76
yeah pretty lame i suck at this
9:43 pm
MDFreaK76
yeah pretty lame i suck at this
9:43 pm
MDFreaK76
woah WTF
9:43 pm
hexx54
heard you the first time
9:45 pm
randy
Connection error. Contact Dr_God if this persists.
9:45 pm
randy
Connection error. Contact Dr_God if this persists.
9:45 pm
randy
Connection error. Contact Dr_God if this persists.
9:45 pm
randy
Connection error. Contact Dr_God if this persists.
9:45 pm
hexx54
randy contact drgod
9:55 pm
raerae7133
i <3 sudoku
9:56 pm
hexx54
tuff stuff
10:04 pm
squallwc
testing...hello world.
10:11 pm
raerae7133
I am waiting for more sudoku
10:11 pm
MDFreaK76
this sucks. g'nite all
10:17 pm
purewish
1 hour left!
10:20 pm
iLuke
im completely new to sudoku... am i missing something, or is it not possible for a 4 to fit in the center right grid?
10:20 pm
iLuke
oh, duh, there is a four there
10:21 pm
iLuke
sry.... heh'
10:30 pm
Ezpinaka
esta dificil
10:41 pm
WNxNukeem
time stamp please
10:41 pm
WNxNukeem
ah, thanks
10:47 pm
Techno4
HI! Do they post easyer one's sometimes?
10:47 pm
mzhokie
yesterday's was really easy I thought
10:48 pm
Techno4
First time, find this one hard
10:56 pm
Ezpinaka
ya termino?
10:57 pm
innate
wee just in time
11:11 pm
amiantos
Man I am bad at this
11:19 pm
FlyingDog
That was a tough one.
11:22 pm
tvongaza
wow, find it easier on paper or some reason
11:22 pm
amiantos
i don't think i'm going to solve this one in time.. too difficult for my feeble mind
11:24 pm
goatherdered
you all know you can push Alt and Shift when you click the number and it will mark it as Red or Green (not 8 or may be 2, etc)
11:24 pm
goatherdered
if not, there is some help
11:31 pm
jayhav
key is 7 and 8s
11:35 pm
eliot
thought i'd go for a little last minute sudoku here
11:41 pm
benhiller
woohoo, done
11:42 pm
stubie
I don't have one 7 yet!
11:45 pm
stubie
THis isn't a minute.
11:45 pm
stubie
I mean, medium.
11:45 pm
eliot
guess i'm not a speed sudoku-er
11:46 pm
darthdurden
omg me need puzzle
11:46 pm
goatherdered
if you dont know, you can push Alt and Shift when you click the number and it will mark it as Red or Green (not 8 or may be 2, etc)
11:47 pm
jdbarney
I'm new to Sudoku. Is this all logic, or do you sometimes have to guess?
11:48 pm
MotiveForce
never have to guess :)
11:48 pm
eliot
never guess
11:48 pm
goatherdered
its all logic
11:48 pm
eliot
goatherdered - not alt and shift at the same time, though
11:49 pm
goatherdered
you may have to try some things at some point, but most of the time you can narrow things down given what you see at the time
11:49 pm
goatherdered
ya, i guess i did not make it very clear
11:49 pm
eliot
the first time i showed my dad, he was quite confused and thought you should guess between the possible numbers .. he didn't see the point
11:49 pm
Playwoman
Does anybody out there do the sudoku in the LA Times?
11:50 pm
eliot
is it the united features one?
11:50 pm
goatherdered
10 more min till a new one!!!!
11:50 pm
Playwoman
Ooh. I'll go check
11:52 pm
Playwoman
It comes from Tribune Media Services
11:53 pm
MotiveForce
OMG Jamie!!!!
11:53 pm
MotiveForce
GIVE US PUZZLAGE!
11:53 pm
MotiveForce
We beseech thee!!
11:53 pm
jonathanpoh
phew.. managed to finish with 8 mins to spare