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Difficulty: Hard Wednesday, May 10, 2006

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CHAT LOG for Wednesday, May 10, 2006

12:05 am
Krys10

andy, how'd your finals turn out?
12:05 am
Babbler

hi : )
12:05 am
raggedyandy3478

its what i like to call miracles
12:05 am
Krys10

good
12:05 am
raggedyandy3478

pulled out 3 A's and a B
12:05 am
Krys10

sweet! calculus?
12:06 am
raggedyandy3478

moved my GPA from 2.16 to 3.04, no oddly enough Psychology
12:06 am
Babbler

wow. well done, raggedyandy : )
12:06 am
raggedyandy3478

ty
12:06 am
Krys10

good job! I'm off for the night. Hi/bye all!
12:06 am
Krys10

Ooh, Babbler, I wanted to ask if I could have a theme for my birthday
12:06 am
raggedyandy3478

gnight krys
12:06 am
Babbler

nite, krys : )
12:07 am
Babbler

course you can!! when is it and what theme would you like?
12:07 am
Krys10

Bridges, September 4th
12:07 am
Babbler

I shall do it right now. I think we've had bridges, but I think it was last year.... brb.... : )
12:08 am
Krys10

Thanks so much!! by the time it rolls around this year, I'll have spent five weeks visiting bridges all around the US and Canada.
12:08 am
Babbler

done : )
12:09 am
Babbler

wow, that's quite something, Krys. I love bridges too. :
12:09 am
Babbler

hehe, didn't finish my smile.... : )
12:10 am
Krys10

a fellow pontist! Thanks, Babbler. 'night, all!
12:10 am
Babbler

'night, krys : )
12:41 am
lawfully

it's tough...
12:41 am
Babbler

yep. keep finding dead ends... : /
12:41 am
raggedyandy3478

same
12:42 am
shortstop

I have a whole 3 filled in so far
12:42 am
Babbler

think I'll go get some sleep. (and probably start over tomorrow) : (
12:42 am
shortstop

ooh no 5
12:42 am
Babbler

laters, everyone : )
12:42 am
shortstop

night
12:56 am
shortstop

got it done
12:56 am
lawfully

I'm full of green numbers....:(
1:03 am
mikehell

I have 7 numbers and full of green. -totally stuck :(
1:05 am
lawfully

9, in my case....
1:07 am
lawfully

suddenly, I've got a lot...
1:08 am
mikehell

Ain't getting nowhere...
1:10 am
spellacked

WHEW! tougher than I'd thought, but still didn't need a guess-thread. It just took several passes over the grid to find the open spot.
1:13 am
lawfully

done... after getting 9 numbers straight... it was a breeze... no guess...
1:19 am
raggedyandy3478

im not getting much of newhere either
1:25 am
raggedyandy3478

im giving up for the night
1:34 am
chebuctonian

hi all
1:42 am
Onpaki

hello :)
1:49 am
GingerUK

Morning/Evening everyone
1:49 am
Onpaki

morn, ginger.
1:58 am
ss99

This 'hard' seemed easier than the 'easy' rated ones of the past couple of days. Find a couple hidden pairs and hidden tripples and it solves itself very quickly.
2:13 am
mikehell

Well, for me, those easies were realy easy, but Hidden pairs and triples are my achilles heel :(
2:16 am
chebuctonian

night all
2:17 am
GingerUK

night cheb :-)
2:23 am
mikehell

You were right, once I found two hidden pairs, it was just clicking numbers away... Done
2:56 am
sprite

morning all
3:18 am
Lamancha

Morning Everyone
3:29 am
GingerUK

morning Lamancha
3:29 am
GingerUK

Morning Sprite
3:29 am
Lamancha

Morning Ginger
3:29 am
sprite

Hi Ginger:) And Lamancha too
3:30 am
Lamancha

Lot of empty boxes for me... little green men may be needed..
3:30 am
sprite

Elimination gave me one 2, that's something...
3:31 am
GingerUK

i just cleared my little green men for now, I have 2 complete boxes middle left and right and 2 complete columns, 3 and 7
3:31 am
MaW

I can see myself coming back to this one later
3:31 am
GingerUK

could b e all wrong though LOL
3:32 am
GingerUK

Hi MaW
3:32 am
sprite

I am working on exactly those, but I don't know for certain the last 2 of each.
3:33 am
MaW

hi ginger
3:33 am
MaW

I've not placed a single number yet :-(
3:33 am
MaW

and just as I said that, in goes the first 5 :-)
3:33 am
GingerUK

:)
3:33 am
sprite

There are a few obvious ones to start with, and then elimination will give you some others.
3:37 am
GingerUK

completed another box and row..... this is going too well!!
3:38 am
GingerUK

top right box and 2nd row
3:39 am
MaW

I have little green numbers everywhere
3:40 am
MaW

but I've placed a two!!
3:40 am
MaW

much happiness
3:40 am
sprite

Yeah MaW!
3:40 am
GingerUK

top row complete.... has to be a pink line come up sometime soon!!
3:40 am
GingerUK

wtg MaW
3:41 am
sprite

No there won't, you are just doing great ;)
3:41 am
GingerUK

thanks Sprite :)
3:43 am
MaW

hmmmmm. things don't look good
3:50 am
GingerUK

OMG I finished a hard with NO restarts!!!!
3:50 am
Lamancha

Well done Ginger!
3:51 am
GingerUK

TY Lamancha, thats made my day.... sad isn't it LOL
3:51 am
MaW

quite an achievement
3:51 am
MaW

I'm completely stuck at the moment!
3:51 am
sprite

Gj!
3:51 am
Lamancha

Little things can make big differences
3:52 am
GingerUK

I wish there was an easy way to help on these but it's difficult not to go too far
3:52 am
MaW

especially since you can't see my grid!
3:52 am
GingerUK

yes!
3:53 am
MaW

I shall try a new reasoning strategy
3:53 am
MaW

'that square can't be a two, because then those two squares both have to be 6
3:53 am
MaW

...I think
3:54 am
MaW

this is admittedly not hugely different to the time-honoured guessing
3:54 am
MaW

but I think my conclusion is correct
3:56 am
sprite

I am stuck, still at the same point. 7th column and middle right box both need 2 more digits and I just don't see how to reason them out. :(
3:58 am
GingerUK

so frustrating... wish i could say something to help!! It is not often I finish before the other names i recognise every day!!
3:59 am
MaW

doh! that was wrong... or something else was wrong... the dreaded pink row :-(
4:00 am
GingerUK

only thing that may help is.... missing number from right centre box bottom row is same as .... would me carrying on help at all?
4:01 am
MaW

I have a column... I think...
4:01 am
GingerUK

wd MaW
4:02 am
sprite

I am starting to feel soooo stupid.
4:02 am
MaW

and a box!
4:02 am
MaW

it's still possible that it's completely wrong
4:02 am
MaW

I'm not confident of some of my reasoning tactics this morning, but this is how we learn
4:03 am
GingerUK

gotta go for now....
4:03 am
Kellie

Sprite.. after you have done all your greens. start on the column that has less options in it and go ffrom there... i found that there isn't many guesses needed.... try that and good luck
4:03 am
sprite

No, I have the feeling you figured it out. Not me, though.
4:03 am
GingerUK

good luck you two.... :-)
4:03 am
MaW

thanks ginger
4:03 am
MaW

have a good day in this lovely sunshine!
4:03 am
GingerUK

thanks.. you too
4:04 am
augurus

Sleepy Jack the fire drill, round and round and round and round and round.
4:07 am
MaW

and done!
4:07 am
MaW

not such a stupid tactic after all :-)
4:07 am
MaW

see you all tomorrow
4:08 am
sprite

Thanks Kellie, I will try that :)
4:08 am
augurus

If man is five, and the devil is six,...
4:13 am
sprite

I will substract them and be left with myself?
4:13 am
Bubbles

Morning
4:15 am
sprite

Hi there Bubbles. This one is reputed to be easy, except for extremely thick people like myself ;)
4:16 am
Bubbles

Hi sprite, looking at it i don't think its that easy. We can be thick together!!!!
4:16 am
mrpresident

Hello sprite!!
4:17 am
caderoux

done - a few triples is all
4:17 am
sprite

Starting feeling thicker by the minute
4:17 am
sprite

Hey mrP!
4:22 am
mrpresident

Sprite, I am sending you mail! look forward to hearing from you!
4:22 am
augurus

No silly, then god is seven. Look it up, have fun with crazy numerology references. :P
4:25 am
sprite

:)
4:26 am
sprite

"you and me and the devil are three..."
4:27 am
Kellie

Hi Bubbles!!
4:28 am
Bubbles

hi hunni, you ok?
4:28 am
Kellie

yeah not too bad... really missing Cyprus!!! Oh and Peter called me last night ha ha! plonker!
4:28 am
Bubbles

what he say?
4:29 am
Kellie

i told him about Cyprus and stuff and he just came out with why didnt i consolt (cant spell) him.... like i needed to lol
4:29 am
Kellie

he was saying how down he is and he still is trying to get down
5:03 am
Moozey

what part of Cyprus were you in my sis lived on an army base there and I visited afew times?
5:04 am
Bubbles

Finally done it!!!!!!
5:29 am
Kellie

well done bubs
5:29 am
Kellie

I stayed near a place called patarus? my spelling is really crap lol
5:45 am
Bubbles

eh?
5:47 am
Kellie

moozey asked where i stayed.
5:50 am
Bubbles

mine hadn't updated, thought you was talking to me
5:56 am
Kellie

lol... no... did you get the bit when i said you should come with me
6:02 am
Bubbles

no?
6:03 am
Kellie

put kiss on bubs your fav song
6:04 am
Bubbles

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
6:04 am
Kellie

do dodo
6:04 am
Bubbles

do do dod od dod odoooooo
6:05 am
Bubbles

do do dodododo do do do dodododo
6:05 am
Kellie

ha ha
6:06 am
Bubbles

hey, 16 people have looked at my car and out of those 3 are watching it!!!!!!
6:06 am
peternl

watching your car?
6:06 am
Bubbles

my car is being sold on ebay
6:07 am
peternl

ahh
6:24 am
Kellie

excellent.. how long you got?
6:24 am
Bubbles

4 days
6:25 am
Kellie

sounds like its definately gonna go then... i might look at putting mine on there for a 3 days before i move
6:25 am
Bubbles

good idea, have a look what they go for
6:26 am
Kellie

yeah i need to get the auto trader and see what they go for in there
6:26 am
Kellie

you in archives?
6:29 am
Bubbles

yeah. you?
6:29 am
Kellie

yeah just trying to do the 7th April... this is my second attempt now lol
6:30 am
Bubbles

i'm doing 25 march
6:31 am
Kellie

i cant believe how many ive missed
6:33 am
Bubbles

i've missed loads
6:33 am
Bubbles

i like this song, shake your tush song
6:34 am
Kellie

lol you still got kiss on?
6:34 am
Bubbles

yeah
6:35 am
Kellie

grrrr.. i've done it wrong and forgot to save check point ha ha what a plonker
6:35 am
Bubbles

i've done mine wrong too
6:47 am
Kellie

bloody good guessing there lol
7:00 am
Bubbles

my new car is ready!!!!!
7:00 am
Kellie

Did it pass the MOT then
7:01 am
Bubbles

the first time no, then they took it round the block blasted the engine and its fine
7:01 am
Kellie

lucky you !!!
7:02 am
Bubbles

i know!!! i'm gonna put all go fast stripes on it!!!!! ha ha ha
7:02 am
Kellie

ha ha absolutely lol
7:05 am
Bubbles

we can do the romford curcuit!!!!!!
7:06 am
Kellie

yeah?!!! then we can do the Southend Circuit on a saturday!
7:06 am
Bubbles

yeah man, how cool will we look!!!
7:06 am
Kellie

really cool
7:07 am
Bubbles

check the babes out
7:07 am
Bubbles

i'm laughing so hard it hurts
7:07 am
Kellie

yeah... and we could sit on the wall and act really hard
7:08 am
Bubbles

we could put neon lights under neath it.
7:08 am
Kellie

yeah and we could get one of them funky horn things
7:09 am
Bubbles

dad's got one, we'll have to do it!!!
7:09 am
Kellie

got to be done
7:09 am
Kellie

what you doing Saturday
7:09 am
Bubbles

southend baby
7:09 am
Kellie

rock on!!! I get the white shoes out lol
7:10 am
Bubbles

yeah and the big hoop earings, don't forget the gum
7:10 am
Kellie

ok.. can we get them from tesco?!
7:10 am
Kellie

NO ASDA!!!!!!!
7:10 am
Bubbles

asda maybe? ohh and white lightning and md 20/20
7:11 am
Bubbles

ha ha ha ha
7:11 am
Babbler

what's in Southend, Bubbles?
7:11 am
Kellie

diamond white?!
7:12 am
Bubbles

hey you, erms how to explain southend........ its got a big amusement park thing there but all the women where white stilletoes and the men all drive round "the Circuit" and thing there gods gift but they drive round again again and again.
7:12 am
Kellie

Southend has nothing going for it (apologise if someone lives there)
7:13 am
Bubbles

urgh do you remember diamond white
7:13 am
Kellie

oh apart from Reflex.... thats a funny night
7:13 am
Babbler

oh right, so you're going for something like Soul Weekend or anything? You're going to chill and relax?
7:13 am
Bubbles

never been, we have to do that, another beano coming up?
7:13 am
Moozey

isn't Southend Chavtastic??
7:13 am
Kellie

be back in a bit bubs... i need to cover the phones upstiars so that john and keeley can do whatever they have to do with each other lol
7:13 am
Babbler

sorry, *not going to Soul Weekend....
7:14 am
Babbler

Chavs make me laugh
7:14 am
Kellie

southend is very chavtastic ha ha
7:14 am
Babbler

(sorry, inner snob coming out, LOL) : /
7:14 am
Moozey

:o)
7:14 am
Moozey

me too Babbler
7:14 am
Kellie

to get rid of the inner snob go to southend!!!
7:14 am
Bubbles

no, don't go to southend that often, only when all girls meet up for a long drinking session.
Moozey have you been? Your spot on
7:15 am
Kellie

brb
7:15 am
Moozey

never but hey I've heard LOL
7:15 am
Bubbles

its awful, i don't know where the women get theyre dress sense from
7:15 am
NJL

hi all
7:16 am
Bubbles

hi njl
7:16 am
Moozey

from the 70's perhaps
7:16 am
NJL

hope this isn't too hard
7:16 am
Babbler

*looks for people from Southend in Who's Online*
7:16 am
Moozey

of course I was only a nipper in the 70s ;o)
7:16 am
Moozey

hahaha
7:16 am
Babbler

NJL - I started at the flip and it's a toughie. I'm about to start over as I kept finding dead ends... : /
7:17 am
Babbler

me too, Moozey
7:17 am
Bubbles

even the 70's didn't wear clothes like that!!! Where you from? you should try and go to sothend one day.
7:17 am
Moozey

Surrey so not far but not sure errrr Southend is my thing ROFL
7:18 am
Atalante

yay! finished!
7:18 am
Bubbles

hey we should do the babble convention there
7:18 am
Babbler

congrats, Ata!! How was it?
7:18 am
Atalante

urf
7:18 am
Moozey

WTG Atalante
7:18 am
Atalante

lol
7:18 am
Babbler

*cough* babble convention is staying in London, lol
7:18 am
Bubbles

spoil sport
7:19 am
Babbler

how did Bobsta's "research" go at teh weekend?
7:19 am
NJL

well done Atalante
7:19 am
Moozey

good thinking, don't think I could wear Burberry quite so convincingly
7:19 am
Babbler

Bubbles - no reason why we can't do a sunny day to teh seaside in the summer! ; )
7:19 am
Moozey

haven't heard from him since, so good I think
7:20 am
Babbler

Ata, you still coming to the convention?
7:21 am
Bubbles

didn't know he was researching? But hey if he was researching he does it every weekend
7:22 am
Babbler

LOL Bubbles!!
7:23 am
Atalante

sure, I'll be there :)
7:26 am
Babbler

smart! it's only about 4 weeks away. : )
7:26 am
Babbler

I'm so excited !!
7:26 am
Atalante

really? wow! wheeeee!
7:28 am
Babbler

lol! :D
7:32 am
Babbler

right, just mailed Bobsta about his 'research'... LOL
7:36 am
Bubbles

i know he was talking about a pub he knows of, don;'t think he's been in there yet though
7:36 am
Bubbles

i know he was talking about a pub he knows of, don;'t think he's been in there yet though
7:40 am
Atalante

whereabouts is it?
7:40 am
Babbler

I had another thought, that might influence our final choice of pub ... World Cup starts soon. Who's playing on June 16?
7:40 am
Michal

hi all!!!
7:46 am
UDbmas

mornin' everybody!
7:46 am
Bubbles

pass babbler
7:47 am
NJL

I hope a morning brain works mare efectivley than a night one
7:47 am
UDbmas

uh...nope...
7:49 am
raerae7133

Hello!
7:54 am
moedog

hi all
8:13 am
moedog

half the work on this one is marking all the green twos!!
8:18 am
EasternBlue

Babs - you still here???
8:18 am
moedog

son of a... how'd i wind up with two 9s in that region?!?! grrrrr.......
8:19 am
EasternBlue

moe - I blame it on the evil Sudoku elves...
8:19 am
moedog

when i find one, i'm gonna kick its lil scrawny behind up between its lil pointed ears!
8:22 am
EasternBlue

now, moe, they're only here to make your Sudoku experience last a little longer!!
8:22 am
moedog

this is aaaaagonyyyyy
8:25 am
moedog

okay, the elves win... i'm starting over
8:33 am
EasternBlue

good luck moe...I'm leaving this for now!! Elves - be nice to moe!! : )
9:12 am
parsec

Ooo, a hard one.
9:20 am
NJL

Done
9:20 am
NJL

Finally, I had to start over a few times
9:21 am
parsec

I'm crossing my fingers so I won't screw up.
9:21 am
NJL

Good luck
9:21 am
parsec

thanks, looks like I need it. =)
9:43 am
jojomnky

no lucky twos its going to be a rough one!
9:53 am
yul

good day
10:05 am
jojomnky

howdy yul
10:08 am
yul

found a 2 :)
10:09 am
yul

and another :)
10:10 am
jojomnky

youre doing better than i am'
10:10 am
moedog

this is a very unpleasant puzzle
10:11 am
yul

did you murked all the cells, jojo?
10:11 am
jojomnky

yeah i just finished that
10:11 am
sinnergy

I have found all of 4 numbers in this one so far
10:13 am
yul

there is a single only possible 2 lerking
10:14 am
jojomnky

found that one i think but i just have it no others
10:16 am
yul

you are right,jojo, my second 2 is not :)
10:16 am
yul

thanks
10:18 am
sinnergy

found the 2. it was hidin
10:19 am
moedog

tricksy two!
10:23 am
miller da killer

hi everyone!!!
10:23 am
yul

hi
10:23 am
miller da killer

is this one truly a hard, because there are quite a few numbers here given.
10:26 am
moedog

look for 2s
10:26 am
miller da killer

well i've got to run because i have to go to class. bye all!!!
10:26 am
moedog

it's tough
10:26 am
miller da killer

and thanx for that moedog!
10:28 am
yul

it is very hard
10:42 am
yul

i don't see how it's possible to figure out 4s, sinnergy
10:43 am
rycaut

done
10:44 am
yul

how? :)
10:45 am
rycaut

figured out where there were pairs (or triples) that meant something about other squares - once I got going things started to fall into place pretty rapidly
10:45 am
yul

ok
10:45 am
rycaut

had to be very methodical however - not immediately obvious but it did all come together
10:46 am
yul

like it shood be :)
10:48 am
yul

i just found a triple which i missed
10:48 am
yul

got a 4
10:51 am
miller da killer

i need help, there must be a trick i haven't figured out yet.
10:53 am
miller da killer

i found all my naked pairs and all the obvious numbers and also did, i dont know what it's called, but you look to see if a number occurs in only one row or column of a box and eliminate the other of those numbers in the other boxes. do you know what that's called? but now i'm stuck.
10:55 am
yul

i was mving too fast again :/. starting over
10:55 am
miller da killer

how frustrating!
10:56 am
yul

it happens too often lately, have to stop chatting
10:57 am
miller da killer

yeah, it is a little distracting.
10:57 am
miller da killer

:)
11:05 am
scribble's mom

This was the first HARD that I completed!!!!! I now see how to think outside of the "box" and the "pairs of numbers" help so much. Have a good day and good luck.
11:05 am
Perry

Hi all - just finished, and the only tip I can give is find the doubles and triples. I didn't use anything more advanced than that, and it all fell into place as I found them.
11:17 am
anmo

bueno
11:23 am
yul

again
11:38 am
Shaiman

today's puzzle has more than one solution!
11:38 am
Shaiman

oh.. nm.. i missed a number
11:38 am
yul

i like that
11:39 am
yul

2 solutions i like
11:40 am
Shaiman

no way.. that makes for real trouble!
11:40 am
yul

:)
11:41 am
Shaiman

anyway.. good luck everyone.. see you for tomorrow's puzzle
11:45 am
jojomnky

yay i got it
11:50 am
yul

finally me too
11:52 am
yul

27 minutes after the 3 attempt. next time i have to focus
11:52 am
yul

27 minutes after the 3 attempt. next time i have to focus
11:52 am
yul

my mac is playing up
11:55 am
yul

it was not as hard as it looked at first. it is not very hard :) i am just all over the place vith the good weather and new music. good buy everybody
12:04 pm
Talk24hr

has anyone finished this without using subs today?
12:26 pm
redshoes

what do you mean by "doubles" and "triples"?
12:34 pm
helenkeller

go
12:34 pm
tylor

doubles triples are like possible that 3 of the same number can go in a box or square same with 2
12:35 pm
TP17

that wasn't too bad at all
12:35 pm
redshoes

like, when two boxes could be 5 or 6?
12:36 pm
tylor

yeah say in the middle box
12:36 pm
tylor

5 could go in the left or right square that kind of thing
12:36 pm
redshoes

so, do you just guess then? and see if the puzzle works out from there?
12:36 pm
tylor

no
12:37 pm
tylor

sometimes you have to eliminate and think
12:37 pm
redshoes

wait, we have to think??? dangit. ;^)
12:37 pm
tylor

if you want and aren't sure you can hold shift and put a number in and it will be green so if you mess up
12:37 pm
answerguru

you never guess on a proper Sudoku...
12:37 pm
tylor

exactly
12:37 pm
redshoes

ha. I guess I'm not a proper Sudoku-er
12:38 pm
tylor

its ok
12:39 pm
tylor

takes time to learn all of the methods
12:39 pm
answerguru

This is a great reference to learn: http://www.scanraid.com/BasicStrategies.htm
12:39 pm
redshoes

thanks!
12:39 pm
answerguru

They also have advanced strategies there.
12:40 pm
tylor

thanks that will help some more
12:40 pm
answerguru

And this one was definitely not a beginner sudoku
12:41 pm
answerguru

Has anyone tried to make the Cream-O-The-Crop list by just doing the medium-hard sudokus and not the easy ones? It seems from the formula they use to rank, that you would have to do that to get up there...
12:42 pm
answerguru

(well almost, I'm only 1 point away today)
12:42 pm
tylor

nope im new to this
12:56 pm
Talk24hr

all done
12:56 pm
Talk24hr

was easy with the subs
12:57 pm
Talk24hr

good luck everyone, toodles
1:07 pm
Moozey

ahhh that explains it then answerguru as I've finally completed all of them and I am way down the list
1:09 pm
helenkeller

go -5
1:09 pm
Perry

Yes, a guy on the other day said he only did the hard and expert ones to stay high on the cream of the crop list
1:34 pm
helenkeller

.
1:40 pm
Moozey

stuck for words Helen?
1:41 pm
helenkeller

LOL
1:41 pm
Moozey

or just making a point LOL
1:41 pm
helenkeller

ROFL - good one!!
1:41 pm
acheekymonkey

haha, right to the point
1:41 pm
Moozey

don't stop now hahaha
1:42 pm
acheekymonkey

a little dotty...
1:53 pm
hurshy

gone off 'is crumpet, that's what 'e's done... dotty as you please
2:00 pm
Moozey

just started today's puzzle and seemed to have come to a block blah
2:00 pm
hurshy

mooooooo
2:01 pm
Moozey

baaaaaa
2:01 pm
hurshy

? :(
2:01 pm
Moozey

beat you didn't know I spoke a foreign language
2:01 pm
hurshy

marty IS sheepish, but usually he says meow
2:01 pm
Moozey

who is marty?
2:02 pm
hurshy

<--- my cat
2:02 pm
Moozey

ahhhh
2:04 pm
hurshy

i've only placed 4 numbers
2:04 pm
hurshy

i don't want to start greening up yet :(
2:05 pm
Moozey

I've managed 5 numbers
2:05 pm
Moozey

but I have now greened up
2:06 pm
hurshy

i have a 5, 6, 7, 8, what is your fifth, i will try to place it
2:06 pm
Moozey

a 2
2:06 pm
hurshy

*awe*
2:07 pm
Moozey

it is one of those that if you look vertical and horizontal all the numbers are there except the two, so I am confident it is correctly placed
2:08 pm
hurshy

hurshy is flummoxed
2:08 pm
Moozey

think along the lines of your 7 and 8
2:09 pm
hurshy

aha
2:09 pm
Moozey

:o)
2:09 pm
hurshy

ty moozey
2:09 pm
Moozey

but after that I'm stuck and I don't do the advanced stuff
2:09 pm
hurshy

not that it really matters, i could have just greened up and got it that way, but, it's lovely...oh, well hang on til i'm greened then
2:09 pm
Moozey

so it is going to be a long night ahead of me
2:10 pm
Moozey

I knew you'd get it but it was a tiny push
2:10 pm
hurshy

nah i'll help you it'll be fine :)
2:11 pm
raggedyandy3478

lost....
2:11 pm
Moozey

take a left at the next turning and you'll find your way raggedyandy
2:12 pm
raggedyandy3478

lol, thanks
2:12 pm
hurshy

or second star to the right and straight on 'til morning
2:12 pm
Moozey

oh that it much nicer
2:12 pm
Moozey

go for that one raggedy
2:12 pm
raggedyandy3478

more scenic eh?
2:12 pm
hurshy

so moozey
2:13 pm
Moozey

yes
2:13 pm
Perry

Now is that your right or Andy's right?
2:13 pm
hurshy

in each of the empty spots in the bottom right section, you should have only 2 greens
2:13 pm
Moozey

yes 2 greens in each of four squares
2:14 pm
hurshy

and so in the top of the last column, no more than 3 in each
2:14 pm
Moozey

yes
2:15 pm
hurshy

still greening, just checking as i go :)
2:19 pm
David Mitchell

Hullo hullo
2:19 pm
hurshy

hullo to you david "stud" mitchell
2:19 pm
David Mitchell

!
2:19 pm
Moozey

stud eh??? ohhhhh
2:19 pm
hurshy

yeah haven't you heard
2:20 pm
Moozey

no, please spill the beans
2:20 pm
hurshy

he's legendary
2:20 pm
Moozey

well pleased to meet you David ;o)
2:20 pm
Moozey

LOL
2:20 pm
hurshy

you single, moozey?
2:21 pm
David Mitchell

Heh
2:21 pm
David Mitchell

Hi, Moozey
2:21 pm
David Mitchell

I'm not sure whether to blush or snort at what hurshey's saying
2:21 pm
hurshy

(it's a legally blonde tactic, david, just go with it...)
2:21 pm
David Mitchell

Ooh
2:21 pm
Moozey

hey Hurshy speaks only the truth ;o)
2:21 pm
Moozey

heehee
2:22 pm
David Mitchell

:)
2:23 pm
hurshy

urf
2:24 pm
hurshy

sigh. ok i'm greened.
2:25 pm
hurshy

aha
2:25 pm
Moozey

aha??
2:25 pm
hurshy

moozey, did you examine 2nd column
2:25 pm
Moozey

across or down
2:26 pm
hurshy

columns down, rows across :)
2:26 pm
Moozey

heehee
2:26 pm
Moozey

lots of greenies
2:26 pm
hurshy

yes
2:27 pm
hurshy

but some can be made to go away
2:27 pm
raggedyandy3478

hopefully all
2:27 pm
hurshy

i meant, you know, at the moment.
2:27 pm
raggedyandy3478

lol
2:27 pm
Moozey

hmmmm
2:29 pm
Perry

Wow...I'm trying to do the 3/28 expert puzzle and I keep hitting the same wall in different ways: one possible number in two boxes in the same row/column, but it's always a different number in a different location each time I retry it
2:30 pm
Perry

And I'm just doing relatively basic strategies, not the advanced ones...crazy.
2:30 pm
zemoxian

Perry, I had a similar problem. I had to be very carful with my subscripts then I just hit a wall.
2:30 pm
Moozey

that one was a pig, Perry. I would pick it up every now and then and fail. Then yesterday I thought I'd give it one more go before admitting defeat and got it. Fluke though
2:30 pm
zemoxian

I eventually had to guess a few times until I got through
2:31 pm
zemoxian

I would start at a checkpoint that I was comfortable with, choose a spot that had ony two possibilities and guess one
2:32 pm
raggedyandy3478

ive been doing that with this one, and yet its not working
2:32 pm
raggedyandy3478

i keep hitting brick walls all over the place
2:32 pm
Perry

I've restarted it about 4 times today, always starting it different ways, and keep hitting things like two boxes that only have a 9 possible in the same column, or two with only a 5 possible in the same row.
2:32 pm
zemoxian

If I hit a contradiction, like the ones you mention, I go back to the check point and choose the other one ass correct
2:32 pm
raggedyandy3478

ive done that, and hit contradictions
2:34 pm
zemoxian

The important thig is to be clear that your last checkpoint was correct and that you remember your guess. That way you can eliminate wrong guesses when you hit contradictions
2:34 pm
Perry

Ugh, 3/28 is going back into the archives for another day....
2:35 pm
raggedyandy3478

i swear i have, i take screen shots right b4 the guess and right when i get the contradiction, and i have them going both routes
2:35 pm
zemoxian

You will get it eventually. I restarted that one a few times until I hit upon a strategy that worked
2:35 pm
Perry

That's the thing - I'm making clear eliminations without guessing and yet I keep hitting these pairs with only one option.
2:36 pm
raggedyandy3478

right now, the guess that i have found my self at before is 4 boxes all to be determined between 2 and 4
2:37 pm
zemoxian

That sounds like you made a mistake at some point. Sometimes I see eliminations that aren't really there, if I miss apply one of the techniques.
2:37 pm
hurshy

moozey
2:38 pm
Moozey

yes
2:38 pm
hurshy

3rd row also fruitful
2:38 pm
zemoxian

That's usually the most painful, especially when you don't find out until you nearly reach the end
2:38 pm
Moozey

ty
2:39 pm
hurshy

now i'm a-goin like great guns!
2:39 pm
Moozey

:o)
2:44 pm
hurshy

and that's a wrap
2:44 pm
Moozey

WTG
2:44 pm
hurshy

2nd col, then 3rd row, then it all goes like dominoes
2:44 pm
David Mitchell

Nice, hurshy
2:45 pm
Perry

Thanks for trying Zem - I think I'm burned out on that one for now, I'll let it sit a bit ;-)
2:47 pm
raggedyandy3478

got all but 3 boxes and it all turned out wrong, once again
2:55 pm
raggedyandy3478

cant get it, no matter what i do
2:55 pm
raggedyandy3478

hit another contradiction going the other way
2:56 pm
Moozey

not too far behind you Hurshy, done and dusted
2:56 pm
hurshy

congrats moozey! :)
2:58 pm
Moozey

ty for your advice
2:59 pm
hurshy

yw, anytime
2:59 pm
hurshy

i'm off now :)
3:00 pm
David Mitchell

See ya, hurshy
3:00 pm
Moozey

me too TTFN pholks
3:01 pm
David Mitchell

Bye, Moozey
3:01 pm
Moozey

Bye stud ;o)
3:17 pm
btwrt

hey everybody :)
3:17 pm
btwrt

finally, a hard one ... what was it, 3 easy ones in a row?
3:25 pm
David Mitchell

Hey, btwrt
3:28 pm
btwrt

hey david :)
3:34 pm
dinoshadow

jojomnky, if you are around or reading the logs, I have given up on Mar 28 for a while. Need to let it stew
3:40 pm
blueskies29

good afternonn everyone!
3:43 pm
zemoxian

I'm working on manipulating my scores
3:44 pm
zemoxian

I've decided not to do any easy's for a while, they bring down my average
3:44 pm
Perry

Same here Dino...I swore it off earlier today but came back, and it just beat me again. (the 3/28 puzzle)
3:46 pm
zemoxian

I'm a few points away from the leaders on the village elders, but I've caught up with the elders on the cream of the crop list
3:48 pm
dinoshadow

glad to know there is a group of us struggling
3:48 pm
zemoxian

I think 3/28 was the hardest to solve. I just got to the point that I couldn't see any more eliminations
3:49 pm
zemoxian

I finally finised it yesterday after numerous attempts. I finally figured out how to use guessing effectively
3:49 pm
Perry

Not to bash Dr. G., but a scoring system that penalizes you for doing all the puzzles has a problem Zem. Basically, then, it's designed to keep people from coming to the site every day.
3:49 pm
Perry

Or, I should say, from staying and doing the puzzles after they come to see the difficulty level.
3:50 pm
helenkeller

only designed to keep those away who care about their scores, excludes the group who just come to play for the fun of it - just a point
3:51 pm
helenkeller

may not even be 'designed', may be unintentional
3:51 pm
zemoxian

I think that might just be an issue since it is still starting out. Eventually, the number of puzzles completed will out weigh the average. Then finishing all or nearly all the puzzles will be necessary
3:51 pm
Perry

that 3/28 one I never hit a guessing point on...the eliminations keep working until I'm near the end and suddenly two boxes in the same row or column have only one option left.
3:52 pm
Perry

I know he didn't design it to be that way intentionally Helen - I'm just saying that's the effect on people that care about their scores, and I've seen quite a few say they won't do easy or medium puzzles so that they keep their ranks up.
3:53 pm
helenkeller

lol- these are people who did not score 100% on their papers in grammar school often enough
3:54 pm
zemoxian

Right after I went pro, I did all the easy ones really quickly and dropped right off the bottom of the cream of the crop scale
3:54 pm
Perry

It's a designed system with an unintended side effect that keeps some people from playing every day.
3:54 pm
zemoxian

Well, I've been playing every day. Mostly 3/18
3:54 pm
helenkeller

are you sure he didn't do it on purpose, cause from what i've seen of dr-g, he tries very hard to attend to details that folks bring up
3:54 pm
helenkeller

oh, that's interesting zem
3:55 pm
Stef

It would be far better if there were puzzles of every difficulty available each day, don't you think?
3:56 pm
helenkeller

yeah stef - but then the site would lose some of it's 'uniqueness'
3:56 pm
zemoxian

Well the highest score you can get after playing only on game is 501. That's if you only do one expert.
3:56 pm
blueskies29

but you can get that from other sites stef..half the attraction for me is the chat that goes on while I'm here...
3:57 pm
Stef

The chat stays the same whether you are playing from the archive or that day's puzzle, so that shouldn't matter too much.
3:57 pm
zemoxian

Eventually, there will be 401 easy puzzles in the archives, then completing every one of those will give you the same score
3:58 pm
Stef

I finish the easy ones quickly and am frustrated that there isn't more of a challenge on those days
3:59 pm
Perry

The only reason I could see to do it on purpose would be to reduce the number of players, say to lighten the server load, but seeing how busy Babble is I don't think that's the case. And if you're selling a product, then the last thing you want is to discourage players. So I'd say it's not intended.
3:59 pm
helenkeller

good point perry
3:59 pm
Perry

Just my 2c though.
4:00 pm
zemoxian

I think he gives different scales for people who have different priorities
4:01 pm
Stef

I reckon we should lobby for one puzzle of each difficulty level per day. We're paying for it after all! That way everyone gets what they want, including those obsessed with their scores.
4:01 pm
zemoxian

Obiously, everybody with 120 points places a high priority on completeness, not on the average scores
4:02 pm
zemoxian

Hmm, a puzzle like 3/18 every day? That would definately spread the scores
4:03 pm
Perry

I'm in the "complete them all" camp, but I keep torturing myself on the 4/12 and 3/28 expert puzzles instead of doing the others I've missed. ;-)
4:04 pm
helenkeller

i would like to be in that camp, perry, but cheapness prevents me :)
4:04 pm
Perry

Haven't done 3/18 yet either...guess that's more fun to look forward to!
4:04 pm
Stef

I just like the challenge but some days its over too quickly...
4:04 pm
TP17

The bad part is you would get people that would use 'Simple Sudoku' and things like that just to complete them so that they stay on top of the board
4:05 pm
Stef

Yeah, but that will always happen :(
4:05 pm
Perry

Yep, I'm sure there are some who do that but you can't avoid it unfortunately.
4:05 pm
TP17

true
4:05 pm
zemoxian

I can't see that being any fun
4:06 pm
zemoxian

That's like cheating at solitare
4:06 pm
Stef

People used to get upset about it on the Babble board, but you can't eradicate it. If people want to cheat, let them. Its their own fun they're spoiling.
4:07 pm
Stef

Anyone else totally stuck with today's puzzle?
4:08 pm
TP17

I agree. That's why I love these puzzles. It gives me something to make my brain work every day
4:08 pm
helenkeller

finally --- done!!!
4:08 pm
Perry

Yay Helen!
4:08 pm
TP17

Congrats
4:08 pm
zemoxian

A sudoku a day keeps the Altheimers away
4:08 pm
Stef

HOW??? <frustration>
4:09 pm
Stef

Well done Helen
4:09 pm
helenkeller

must go mow the lawn now - before the storms come
4:09 pm
TP17

I actually thought today's was easy (not bragging). I just kept using eliminations, and they all fell into place
4:09 pm
helenkeller

yep tp, that's how i did it
4:09 pm
Stef

I must have made a mistake then :(
4:09 pm
Perry

Stef, I got it done with just using pairs and triples for eliminations if that helps - nothing advanced.
4:09 pm
helenkeller

gl everyone, have a great day - bye
4:10 pm
Perry

Well it's past 5 so I'm going to head out - have a good day/night all.
4:13 pm
stidmatt

'Sup y'all?
4:14 pm
stidmatt

Need to go!
4:57 pm
Grace O'Malley

Hi aeveryone
5:03 pm
gabby12

Good Afternoon everyone!
5:03 pm
gabby12

Hello Grace!
5:05 pm
gabby12

Man I still havent upgraded yet.
5:05 pm
stidmatt

'Sup y'all
5:05 pm
stidmatt

?
5:06 pm
gabby12

Nothin much
5:22 pm
Grace O'Malley

Hi Gabby
5:22 pm
Grace O'Malley

Well alittle late for that huh sorry
5:26 pm
Grace O'Malley

well have to go now Bye all
5:26 pm
stidmatt

So long Grace!
5:26 pm
scribble

im leavin too. bye.
5:26 pm
stidmatt

So long scribble!
5:26 pm
scribble

c ya stidmatt.
5:43 pm
Michal

i cant finish this 1!
5:45 pm
raggedyandy3478

me neither, i keep running into contradictions everywhere
5:46 pm
stidmatt

It is a toughy!
5:47 pm
tylor

finished
5:48 pm
raggedyandy3478

howd u do it?
5:49 pm
stidmatt

WTG TYLOR! YOU DA NUMBA 1! ~~~~~FIREWORKS~~~~~
6:04 pm
Michal

i hate this 1! hehehe.. everythime i think its right- its wrong!!
6:05 pm
moedog

i'm starting this one for the third time today
6:05 pm
Michal

my 5th...
6:05 pm
raggedyandy3478

lost count
6:05 pm
Michal

:)
6:22 pm
raggedyandy3478

i can usually get every one of these first try, but this one is killing me
6:23 pm
Michal

me 2!!!
6:36 pm
Michal

FINISHEDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!! =)=)=)=)!!!!!!!
6:36 pm
raggedyandy3478

congrats
6:36 pm
Michal

THANKS!
6:37 pm
Michal

it is 2:36 am here and i didnt go to sleep yet because of this thing~
6:37 pm
raggedyandy3478

haha, i worked on it from 1 - 3 AM this morn(its 7:40 here) and now i am at it again
6:38 pm
Michal

=)
6:39 pm
raggedyandy3478

did u have any guessing involved
6:39 pm
Michal

no
6:39 pm
Michal

but it was wierd things that i did that helped me..
6:40 pm
Michal

i have school tomorrow! this is bad that im still up...
6:45 pm
raggedyandy3478

what did u do?
6:45 pm
Michal

wuth what?
6:46 pm
Michal

with*
6:46 pm
raggedyandy3478

the puzzle that helped ya
6:46 pm
Michal

the 2 and 4s were hard.. a soon as i sawwere 1 goes the rest were easy..
6:47 pm
raggedyandy3478

yup, got a BUNCH of those 2s and 4s that have yet to be determined
6:47 pm
Michal

i think i needed tow 2 to start finishing... the puzzel didnt have any 2s... that was the big promlem..
6:49 pm
ShadeEagle

wow, just got a 2
6:49 pm
Michal

mazal tov! =)
6:49 pm
raggedyandy3478

i have 2 2's but they are doing no good
6:50 pm
Michal

(congrats)
6:50 pm
ShadeEagle

thanks
6:50 pm
ShadeEagle

wasn't expecting to get one so quickly (relatively speaking)
6:50 pm
Michal

=)
6:51 pm
Michal

how old are you all?//
6:53 pm
Michal

never mind.. :S
6:54 pm
raggedyandy3478

lol, im 19
6:54 pm
raggedyandy3478

i was off getting something to drink
6:54 pm
raggedyandy3478

cuz i plan on being here for another while
6:54 pm
Michal

hehehe shame...
6:55 pm
Michal

i took me like 3 hpours and this time i started over and it took me like 10 min'...
6:56 pm
Michal

it* hours*
6:57 pm
Michal

where r u from?//
6:57 pm
raggedyandy3478

atlanta
6:57 pm
raggedyandy3478

yourself?
6:58 pm
Michal

israel
6:58 pm
raggedyandy3478

wow
6:58 pm
Michal

=)
6:59 pm
Michal

my family is from south africa.. thats how i know english..
6:59 pm
mandi

hello
6:59 pm
raggedyandy3478

awesome
6:59 pm
Michal

yep
6:59 pm
Michal

hi
7:00 pm
mandi

how's the puzzle today?
7:00 pm
Michal

hard!
7:00 pm
Michal

did u do it?
7:01 pm
mandi

I see that, but is it on the easy end of hard, or the evil end of hard
7:01 pm
mandi

no, I just started
7:01 pm
Michal

evil end
7:01 pm
Michal

i think..
7:01 pm
mandi

oh dear
7:01 pm
Michal

if u r good so it wont be so hard.. if not so it will be
7:02 pm
mandi

well, we shall see
7:02 pm
Michal

yep
7:03 pm
Michal

i think i should go to sleep...
7:04 pm
raggedyandy3478

haha, that would be good
7:04 pm
mandi

sleep is overrated
7:04 pm
Michal

i love sleeping! =)
7:04 pm
raggedyandy3478

im in college, and i will tell you, sleep is AMAZING!
7:04 pm
Michal

im 16.5... all i do is sleep and learn..
7:04 pm
mandi

I'm kidding, I love sleep
7:05 pm
Michal

who dosent?..
7:06 pm
Michal

anyway.. school tomorrow at 8 and it is 3 now.. need to get up at 7.. good luck everyone! good night/morning!
7:06 pm
mandi

nite
7:07 pm
the_man_stephen

hurray a hard one for once!
7:07 pm
raggedyandy3478

its quite hard
7:07 pm
the_man_stephen

good, good, need something to tire me out so i can go to sleep!
7:13 pm
mandi

*laments* the board is getting greener by the second
7:14 pm
the_man_stephen

yup, a sea of green!
7:21 pm
crzytrain76

suchin pucks
7:23 pm
raggedyandy3478

wooohooo!!!
7:23 pm
raggedyandy3478

done
7:23 pm
mandi

yeah!
7:23 pm
mandi

I think I've got it too
7:26 pm
mandi

darn it
7:31 pm
raggedyandy3478

sorry!, gl, i gotta go get something to eat
7:41 pm
the_man_stephen

hurray :D
7:42 pm
mandi

yeah!
7:43 pm
the_man_stephen

i hate it when you notice a green number you've put in that can't possible be there cause it clashes with a starting number
7:43 pm
mandi

is that what solved it?
7:43 pm
the_man_stephen

yup, it all fell from there!
7:43 pm
mandi

good for you!
7:43 pm
the_man_stephen

thanks, now i can go to bed!
7:44 pm
mandi

nite
7:58 pm
mandi

done
8:53 pm
Onpaki

this is the 3rd time i'm trying....
9:00 pm
LdyVxn

Hi all
9:41 pm
rcheramy

This is a tricky one.'
9:56 pm
dinoshadow

is anyone else having any problems with entering subscripts?
10:23 pm
Limer

Nailed that puppy!
10:24 pm
Limer

Rank me, baby!
10:30 pm
rcheramy

argh... thought I had it now I have a bug.
10:30 pm
Limer

oopsie.
10:30 pm
rcheramy

I HATE that
10:31 pm
Limer

Know what you mean rcheramy
10:32 pm
LdyVxn

finally
10:32 pm
Limer

Good one, LdyVxn
10:32 pm
rcheramy

anyone wanna help me fix my bug?
10:32 pm
LdyVxn

ty it took 1 1/2 hours almost
10:32 pm
dinoshadow

What bug?
10:32 pm
Limer

WOW
10:32 pm
LdyVxn

can I tell a hint
10:33 pm
rcheramy

column6 row 5,7,8
10:33 pm
Limer

I finiished mine already. So no hints needed.
10:33 pm
ls

spill it ldyvxn
10:33 pm
LdyVxn

start with 5s, and 7s. then do 9s and take it from there
10:34 pm
rcheramy

I not sure it will help... I'm 95% done and have a glitch.
10:34 pm
ls

ty
10:34 pm
dinoshadow

2 are even, one is odd, 2 are consecutive, one isn't.
10:36 pm
LdyVxn

where is your glitch
10:36 pm
dinoshadow

rcheramy, did that help? do you need more info?
10:36 pm
rcheramy

I need more I'm not even sure how to ask for help.
10:37 pm
LdyVxn

where is the glitch you ran into
10:37 pm
rcheramy

my colum 6 is screwed.
10:37 pm
LdyVxn

691
10:37 pm
rcheramy

it currently reads 6913x5xx7
10:38 pm
dinoshadow

your 3 is wrong
10:38 pm
Limer

oops
10:38 pm
rcheramy

cool
10:38 pm
Limer

I'm on the April 23 puzzle.
10:38 pm
dinoshadow

now, go back to my other clue - 5, 7, 8 - two are even, two are consecutive - and now you know one of them is 3
10:40 pm
LdyVxn

hows it going now rcher
10:41 pm
rcheramy

I've got a fix in now I have to see what else other number I have to pull in row 4 that IS the 3
10:41 pm
LdyVxn

4
10:41 pm
dinoshadow

well, what you listed you have means you still have to place 2 3 4 8 in those 4 spots..
10:42 pm
dinoshadow

Ldy - don't give the answers!
10:42 pm
LdyVxn

sorry
10:42 pm
dinoshadow

R is asking for help, not answers
10:42 pm
rcheramy

oh... the 4 is NOT the one I wanted to remove... OUCH... have to undo a LOT!
10:43 pm
dinoshadow

Probably, but since LdyVxn told you, the 4 is what goes where your 3 was
10:43 pm
dinoshadow

have fun hunting it down
10:43 pm
ShadeEagle

it shouldn't be too hard to undo
10:43 pm
rcheramy

ya... it's do over... too many to undo.
10:43 pm
LdyVxn

i said i was sorry
10:43 pm
dinoshadow

Oh, don't apologize, just don't do it again ;) ;)
10:43 pm
rcheramy

I appreciated it in that case... thx all for you help
10:44 pm
dinoshadow

Just trying to help rcheramy out now.. what does your row 4 look likee, or have you already killed your game?
10:44 pm
rcheramy

9x8674x51
10:44 pm
dinoshadow

your 7 is wrong, too
10:44 pm
Onpaki

whew! i finally got it done! ;)
10:45 pm
ShadeEagle

okay, that makes me feel a little better. ;)
10:45 pm
dinoshadow

yay Onpaki
10:45 pm
dinoshadow

? Shadeeagle?
10:45 pm
Limer

I am really getting screwed on this April 23 puzzle
10:45 pm
ShadeEagle

I'm still in the process of working through this one, but everything that you've said so far is in line with what I have
10:45 pm
dinoshadow

But if you are doing this without subscripts, you are WAY TONS far ahead of me. I had greenies all over
10:45 pm
dinoshadow

=)
10:46 pm
rcheramy

978634251
10:46 pm
LdyVxn

what are subscripts
10:46 pm
dinoshadow

don't post answers, rcheramy
10:46 pm
dinoshadow

the red/green numbers, LdyVxn
10:46 pm
ls

dino - thanks for your help!
10:46 pm
dinoshadow

If you don't know what I am talking about, check out the help link
10:46 pm
dinoshadow

np
10:47 pm
dinoshadow

thank LdyVxn and rcheramy for posting answers ;)
10:47 pm
LdyVxn

oh I haven't joined yet. i am broke right now so I don't get those
10:47 pm
dinoshadow

;)
10:47 pm
dinoshadow

That is a pay thing now??? suck!
10:47 pm
dinoshadow

I thought just the saving was a pay feature
10:47 pm
rcheramy

no its free still
10:48 pm
LdyVxn

oh well new here and didn't read the help I just dove right in
10:48 pm
dinoshadow

With the flip, LdyVxn, hold down your shift key and click a number.. it lets you fill in the numbers you think are or aren't the possible solution
10:48 pm
ls

ldyvxn - if you hold down the shift key while picking a number it will put it in the box in green, and still allow you to enter more numbers. that way you can put in all the possibilites. if you use "alt" it puts the numbers in in red
10:49 pm
dinoshadow

Makes it a LOT easier if you have the time to fill it in
10:49 pm
dinoshadow

OK, bedtime.
10:49 pm
rcheramy

thx for help... this one is unsalvageable.
10:49 pm
dinoshadow

Sorry, rcheramy.
10:50 pm
LdyVxn

oh well now that would have made this easier. I was starting to get frustrated without being able to pencil in or save. I just started over a few times til I got it
10:50 pm
dinoshadow

but your row was right
10:50 pm
dinoshadow

=)
10:50 pm
dinoshadow

night folks, good luck with this and tomorrow's
10:50 pm
ls

goodnight dino
10:50 pm
LdyVxn

rcher if you start over try doing 5s and 7s first that how I got it figured out finally
10:51 pm
LdyVxn

night dino sorry again
10:52 pm
LdyVxn

alright evry1 I'm heading off to bed. Have a great night/morning
11:40 pm
tchansen

I'm a masochist... I'm just starting.
11:46 pm
british16chica

good luck
11:54 pm
chrissie2006

Wow, this one is really tough