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Difficulty: Easy Saturday, December 1, 2007

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CHAT LOG for Saturday, December 1, 2007

1:05 am
trueheart11

go!
1:21 am
trueheart11

done
4:04 am
moedog

hi folks
4:09 am
moedog

bow-chicka-wow-wow! :)
5:10 am
spreadeagle

Nice n' easy.....
8:18 am
Inge

done
8:22 am
angieplumptit

Hungry?
8:58 am
Poochie

Ravenous! What's on the menu?
8:59 am
angieplumptit

You old dog! You finally surfaced!
8:59 am
Poochie

Old??????
9:00 am
angieplumptit

I'm dumbfounded, I must confess
9:00 am
Poochie

Confess away, it's good for the soul
9:01 am
angieplumptit

I may even have lost my appetite
9:01 am
Poochie

Do you want someone to go and look for it?
9:02 am
angieplumptit

Could it be, Poocheroonie, That you've missed me?
9:02 am
angieplumptit

'Fess up now.
9:03 am
angieplumptit

Don't be afraid
9:04 am
angieplumptit

My flabber is gasted
9:04 am
Poochie

OK PlumpyWumpy, I am jealous of Andy (who is not here to defend himself)
9:05 am
angieplumptit

Oh, Poochie!
9:05 am
angieplumptit

I swoon!
9:05 am
Poochie

So what is for breakfast?
9:06 am
angieplumptit

I fear I have the vapours.
9:06 am
Poochie

Is that like having gas?
9:07 am
angieplumptit

Oh dear no, it's a hunger of the soul
9:09 am
Poochie

Perhaps Soul Amandine would satisfy?
9:10 am
angieplumptit

Don't be harsh, Poochie, I'm delicate
9:11 am
Poochie

So is sole, it is a very delicate fish
9:11 am
angieplumptit

Fragile
9:12 am
Poochie

Brittle
9:12 am
angieplumptit

You must be gentle
9:13 am
angieplumptit

A gentle man
9:13 am
angieplumptit

Softly, softly
9:14 am
Poochie

I still need breakfast
9:14 am
angieplumptit

Bye
9:15 am
Poochie

Leaving so soon?
9:17 am
ypsigirl

done
9:24 am
Pocketmole

Done! Beatcha, Poochie!
9:32 am
brittlefish.com

go
9:32 am
drwho

Difficulty score 26. Interesting for an easy.
9:33 am
drwho

Go brittlefish go!
9:33 am
brittlefish.com

i am i am
9:38 am
drwho

Ack, ftp hung again!
9:38 am
brittlefish.com

sudoku through ftp. interesting.
9:39 am
brittlefish.com

must be ftp 2.0
9:39 am
e84

go
9:40 am
drwho

Not Sudoku, just trying to update my table of iron sudoku difficulty scores.
9:40 am
brittlefish.com

i jest. should remember the :)
9:41 am
drwho

My web site host has a slick web page management interface, but the old ftp is much quicker when it works.
9:43 am
drwho

Just checked the version, it's (GNU inetutils) 1.3.2
9:44 am
drwho

But I see the same problem when using the Microsoft ftp supplied with XP, so maybe it's the ftp server on my web host.
9:46 am
brittlefish.com

:) I was making a (bad) joke about all the Web 2.0 silliness. Like Ftp 2.0 with Ajax opens up things like sudoku. You know, a bad tech joke.
9:48 am
drwho

Okay, I get it, I think.
9:49 am
drwho

I'm still just learning about web design, JavaScript, PHP and XHTML. I should probably get a primer on http and cgi.
9:50 am
drwho

So I haven't gotten to web 2.0!
9:50 am
brittlefish.com

still learning? your website is very impressive.
9:50 am
drwho

Thank you.
9:50 am
drwho

You obviously don't use IE 6.0.
9:51 am
brittlefish.com

FF 2.0.0.whatever (IE only under duress)
9:51 am
drwho

But I haven't reached the level of brittlefish.com
9:53 am
drwho

I rather like IE, from a web designer perspective, it's about the easiest browser to get things to work on.
9:54 am
brittlefish.com

I hope you don't drop to that level. :) WordPress and some theme hacking isn't anything to write home about.
9:55 am
brittlefish.com

IE (esp. IE6) was built to forgive the coder, but that creates all sorts of difficulties with cross-browser CSS
9:55 am
drwho

IE 7.0 is more tolerant of bad HTML than all the others I test on, which is a good thing. But it has no idea what to do with XHTML when served with the proper MIME ti
9:56 am
drwho

... MIME type.
9:56 am
brittlefish.com

the autofill script had me going nuts with IE6 until i figured out loading a cross-domain script within a bookmarklet to get around the size limit.
9:57 am
brittlefish.com

IE7 is much better
9:57 am
drwho

That was a cool hack. Did you originate the whole thing, or improve something you found.
9:58 am
brittlefish.com

i was using it with something else, but it took a while before i realized it might solve the IE6 autofill problem
9:59 am
drwho

Ok. But I was wondering if you originated the autofill script too?
10:01 am
brittlefish.com

oh, no. i lifted the original autofill that was here a year or so ago, and reworked it to do the greens and reds, but like the other one, it didn't work in IE6. drove me nuts until i realized the code wasn't broken, IE6 just wasn't loading it all.
10:02 am
drwho

Buffer size limits. I hate when that happens.
10:03 am
brittlefish.com

yeah. originally i just wanted more variety. like the g+r thing, clearnotes() to remove the greens/reds, and a solveit() which i didn't document just for fun.
10:04 am
brittlefish.com

oh yeah, and gautofill() for the traditionalists :)
10:04 am
drwho

I think Jawilke did a solve-it which just steals the solution from the IronSudoku JavaScript.
10:05 am
brittlefish.com

what's cool is that you can run them without being logged in. handy for testing. :)
10:06 am
drwho

Being relatively new to JavaScript, how did the first hacker get the internals of the IronSudoku JavaScript? FF JavaScript console won't display it, will it?
10:07 am
brittlefish.com

http://ironsudoku.com/js/sudoku.js
10:07 am
brittlefish.com

view source on ironsudoku.com, and it imports that script
10:08 am
drwho

Ah, yes, just find the source. Which is another thing I need to learn, how to make things like that secure and unaccessible to hackers!
10:08 am
brittlefish.com

another handy thing is FireBug. and by handy, i mean almost indispensable.
10:09 am
brittlefish.com

the problem with web apps is that you can't make it secure without enormous gyrations.
10:09 am
brittlefish.com

anything you want secure, you make server-side
10:15 am
drwho

Thanks bf, I just downloaded FireBug. I have a problem right now that it might help me solve.
10:16 am
brittlefish.com

it's great. one note, if you use gmail, they recommend you disable it for that domain for performance reasons.
10:17 am
brittlefish.com

so, that probably also applies to other complex sites as well. if you need to snoop on their code, just enable when you need it.
10:18 am
drwho

Thanks again. I have a gmail address but rarely use it. Makes sense to only enable FireBug when you need it.
10:22 am
brittlefish.com

np. what's behind the scenes of the solver? cgi?
10:23 am
drwho

All JavaScript for the online version.
10:24 am
drwho

When I do learn cgi, I probably will add a cgi interface to the C program I originally wrote.
10:31 am
brittlefish.com

interesting. now that read your explanation on your website, it makes sense. i found the g+r autofill logic to be not too far from iteratively solving a lot of the puzzles.
10:33 am
drwho

I think your g-r autofill logic should highlight most of the solutions you can get by cross-hatching too.
10:34 am
drwho

Or it could with very little modification.
10:38 am
brittlefish.com

yeah, i had to back off from taking it further. i had it filling in the 1 potentials (i mean, duh), or played with circling them or using a different color. also just doing another pass started pushing it into the solver / cheating realm, and when i posted it someone was on here having kittens. saying i was a big fat cheater. so i just left it as is.
10:40 am
brittlefish.com

oh, and done.
10:41 am
drwho

WTG. I must have slowed you down a bit.
10:44 am
brittlefish.com

you're right about it being an interesting easy, but the programming talk was more interesting. :)
10:58 am
drwho

Bye all. It's snowing here and the weatherman says we are going to be buried. So, it will probably be nothing, but just in case, I'm going to get some things done while I can.
1:07 pm
Montreal13

done no greens - very easy - bye all !
2:09 pm
sandbox74

go
2:22 pm
sandbox74

done.. no greens.. but very slow
2:53 pm
smooth_pappa

we have the same storm, dr who... I"M iced in for the day
2:53 pm
smooth_pappa

start
3:03 pm
smooth_pappa

done
5:26 pm
helenkeller

5:49 pm
helenkeller

that was like quicksand
5:52 pm
Phil

start
5:56 pm
UnikeTheHunter

Go.
6:05 pm
Phil

done
6:22 pm
UnikeTheHunter

Done, no greens.
6:23 pm
UnikeTheHunter

17 minutes. Hmm, I'm getting down to the range of daily crossword puzzles.
11:02 pm
Andy

and.... go