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4:09 am
moedog
bow-chicka-wow-wow! :)
5:10 am
spreadeagle
Nice n' easy.....
8:22 am
angieplumptit
Hungry?
8:58 am
Poochie
Ravenous! What's on the menu?
8:59 am
angieplumptit
You old dog! You finally surfaced!
8:59 am
Poochie
Old??????
9:00 am
angieplumptit
I'm dumbfounded, I must confess
9:00 am
Poochie
Confess away, it's good for the soul
9:01 am
angieplumptit
I may even have lost my appetite
9:01 am
Poochie
Do you want someone to go and look for it?
9:02 am
angieplumptit
Could it be, Poocheroonie, That you've missed me?
9:02 am
angieplumptit
'Fess up now.
9:03 am
angieplumptit
Don't be afraid
9:04 am
angieplumptit
My flabber is gasted
9:04 am
Poochie
OK PlumpyWumpy, I am jealous of Andy (who is not here to defend himself)
9:05 am
angieplumptit
Oh, Poochie!
9:05 am
angieplumptit
I swoon!
9:05 am
Poochie
So what is for breakfast?
9:06 am
angieplumptit
I fear I have the vapours.
9:06 am
Poochie
Is that like having gas?
9:07 am
angieplumptit
Oh dear no, it's a hunger of the soul
9:09 am
Poochie
Perhaps Soul Amandine would satisfy?
9:10 am
angieplumptit
Don't be harsh, Poochie, I'm delicate
9:11 am
Poochie
So is sole, it is a very delicate fish
9:11 am
angieplumptit
Fragile
9:12 am
angieplumptit
You must be gentle
9:13 am
angieplumptit
A gentle man
9:13 am
angieplumptit
Softly, softly
9:14 am
Poochie
I still need breakfast
9:14 am
angieplumptit
Bye
9:15 am
Poochie
Leaving so soon?
9:24 am
Pocketmole
Done! Beatcha, Poochie!
9:32 am
brittlefish.com
go
9:32 am
drwho
Difficulty score 26. Interesting for an easy.
9:33 am
drwho
Go brittlefish go!
9:33 am
brittlefish.com
i am i am
9:38 am
drwho
Ack, ftp hung again!
9:38 am
brittlefish.com
sudoku through ftp. interesting.
9:39 am
brittlefish.com
must be ftp 2.0
9:40 am
drwho
Not Sudoku, just trying to update my table of iron sudoku difficulty scores.
9:40 am
brittlefish.com
i jest. should remember the :)
9:41 am
drwho
My web site host has a slick web page management interface, but the old ftp is much quicker when it works.
9:43 am
drwho
Just checked the version, it's (GNU inetutils) 1.3.2
9:44 am
drwho
But I see the same problem when using the Microsoft ftp supplied with XP, so maybe it's the ftp server on my web host.
9:46 am
brittlefish.com
:) I was making a (bad) joke about all the Web 2.0 silliness. Like Ftp 2.0 with Ajax opens up things like sudoku. You know, a bad tech joke.
9:48 am
drwho
Okay, I get it, I think.
9:49 am
drwho
I'm still just learning about web design, JavaScript, PHP and XHTML. I should probably get a primer on http and cgi.
9:50 am
drwho
So I haven't gotten to web 2.0!
9:50 am
brittlefish.com
still learning? your website is very impressive.
9:50 am
drwho
You obviously don't use IE 6.0.
9:51 am
brittlefish.com
FF 2.0.0.whatever (IE only under duress)
9:51 am
drwho
But I haven't reached the level of brittlefish.com
9:53 am
drwho
I rather like IE, from a web designer perspective, it's about the easiest browser to get things to work on.
9:54 am
brittlefish.com
I hope you don't drop to that level. :) WordPress and some theme hacking isn't anything to write home about.
9:55 am
brittlefish.com
IE (esp. IE6) was built to forgive the coder, but that creates all sorts of difficulties with cross-browser CSS
9:55 am
drwho
IE 7.0 is more tolerant of bad HTML than all the others I test on, which is a good thing. But it has no idea what to do with XHTML when served with the proper MIME ti
9:56 am
drwho
... MIME type.
9:56 am
brittlefish.com
the autofill script had me going nuts with IE6 until i figured out loading a cross-domain script within a bookmarklet to get around the size limit.
9:57 am
brittlefish.com
IE7 is much better
9:57 am
drwho
That was a cool hack. Did you originate the whole thing, or improve something you found.
9:58 am
brittlefish.com
i was using it with something else, but it took a while before i realized it might solve the IE6 autofill problem
9:59 am
drwho
Ok. But I was wondering if you originated the autofill script too?
10:01 am
brittlefish.com
oh, no. i lifted the original autofill that was here a year or so ago, and reworked it to do the greens and reds, but like the other one, it didn't work in IE6. drove me nuts until i realized the code wasn't broken, IE6 just wasn't loading it all.
10:02 am
drwho
Buffer size limits. I hate when that happens.
10:03 am
brittlefish.com
yeah. originally i just wanted more variety. like the g+r thing, clearnotes() to remove the greens/reds, and a solveit() which i didn't document just for fun.
10:04 am
brittlefish.com
oh yeah, and gautofill() for the traditionalists :)
10:04 am
drwho
I think Jawilke did a solve-it which just steals the solution from the IronSudoku JavaScript.
10:05 am
brittlefish.com
what's cool is that you can run them without being logged in. handy for testing. :)
10:06 am
drwho
Being relatively new to JavaScript, how did the first hacker get the internals of the IronSudoku JavaScript? FF JavaScript console won't display it, will it?
10:07 am
brittlefish.com
http://ironsudoku.com/js/sudoku.js
10:07 am
brittlefish.com
view source on ironsudoku.com, and it imports that script
10:08 am
drwho
Ah, yes, just find the source. Which is another thing I need to learn, how to make things like that secure and unaccessible to hackers!
10:08 am
brittlefish.com
another handy thing is FireBug. and by handy, i mean almost indispensable.
10:09 am
brittlefish.com
the problem with web apps is that you can't make it secure without enormous gyrations.
10:09 am
brittlefish.com
anything you want secure, you make server-side
10:15 am
drwho
Thanks bf, I just downloaded FireBug. I have a problem right now that it might help me solve.
10:16 am
brittlefish.com
it's great. one note, if you use gmail, they recommend you disable it for that domain for performance reasons.
10:17 am
brittlefish.com
so, that probably also applies to other complex sites as well. if you need to snoop on their code, just enable when you need it.
10:18 am
drwho
Thanks again. I have a gmail address but rarely use it. Makes sense to only enable FireBug when you need it.
10:22 am
brittlefish.com
np. what's behind the scenes of the solver? cgi?
10:23 am
drwho
All JavaScript for the online version.
10:24 am
drwho
When I do learn cgi, I probably will add a cgi interface to the C program I originally wrote.
10:31 am
brittlefish.com
interesting. now that read your explanation on your website, it makes sense. i found the g+r autofill logic to be not too far from iteratively solving a lot of the puzzles.
10:33 am
drwho
I think your g-r autofill logic should highlight most of the solutions you can get by cross-hatching too.
10:34 am
drwho
Or it could with very little modification.
10:38 am
brittlefish.com
yeah, i had to back off from taking it further. i had it filling in the 1 potentials (i mean, duh), or played with circling them or using a different color. also just doing another pass started pushing it into the solver / cheating realm, and when i posted it someone was on here having kittens. saying i was a big fat cheater. so i just left it as is.
10:40 am
brittlefish.com
oh, and done.
10:41 am
drwho
WTG. I must have slowed you down a bit.
10:44 am
brittlefish.com
you're right about it being an interesting easy, but the programming talk was more interesting. :)
10:58 am
drwho
Bye all. It's snowing here and the weatherman says we are going to be buried. So, it will probably be nothing, but just in case, I'm going to get some things done while I can.
1:07 pm
Montreal13
done no greens - very easy - bye all !
2:22 pm
sandbox74
done.. no greens.. but very slow
2:53 pm
smooth_pappa
we have the same storm, dr who... I"M iced in for the day
2:53 pm
smooth_pappa
start
3:03 pm
smooth_pappa
done
5:49 pm
helenkeller
that was like quicksand
5:56 pm
UnikeTheHunter
Go.
6:22 pm
UnikeTheHunter
Done, no greens.
6:23 pm
UnikeTheHunter
17 minutes. Hmm, I'm getting down to the range of daily crossword puzzles.