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Difficulty: Expert Sunday, December 2, 2007

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CHAT LOG for Sunday, December 2, 2007

1:53 am
trueheart11

go
2:22 am
trueheart11

done...greens
3:46 am
moedog

hi all
3:48 am
e84

go
3:52 am
moedog

aw, dangit
3:52 am
moedog

gonna have to start over - after sleeping :)
4:34 am
e84

ah -finally done
5:23 am
MrOoijer

very hard
6:02 am
angieplumptit

Cold as a grave diggers knees.
6:03 am
angieplumptit

Cold as a dead Inuit's nose
6:04 am
angieplumptit

Cold as a dead celibate's ...well, you know. Cold
6:23 am
Andy

brr
6:26 am
Werner

WOW!
6:27 am
Andy

Did you just save 15% on your auto insurance?
6:27 am
narrativium

he saved a lot more than that, he sold his car
7:12 am
franebrown

used greens again
7:29 am
yul

expert! but I have to go and vote against Putin.
7:44 am
Poochie

PlumpyWumpy!
8:25 am
angieplumptit

Yes,old doggie?
8:39 am
rain_cloud

start....
8:49 am
UnikeTheHunter

Go.
8:50 am
spreadeagle

Go get 'm Hunter, I'm at 14 filled, went green, now I'm just staring at the screen......
8:51 am
UnikeTheHunter

Yea, it seems to start easy.
8:51 am
ypsigirl

DONE
8:52 am
spreadeagle

The 1's and 2's are gimmies
8:52 am
UnikeTheHunter

Congrats, Ypsi.
8:52 am
ypsigirl

woot woot 5 big ol points
8:52 am
ypsigirl

I spent much time staring at greens on this one
9:05 am
UnikeTheHunter

Eleven. Going green.
9:13 am
UnikeTheHunter

14 and stuck.
9:14 am
angieplumptit

Manageable with the Steinhammer back tap in caps lock
9:14 am
UnikeTheHunter

No. 13 and stuck.
9:18 am
spreadeagle

Still at 14, getting a headache, will try again later. I refuse to guess!!
9:21 am
UnikeTheHunter

Oh, I'll go get started on my day.
9:51 am
gman

Also stuck at 14, even with greens. Did anyone get this without guessing??!
9:53 am
eyeman

finally.... 5 pts.
9:53 am
eyeman

I guessed, gman
9:54 am
smooth_pappa

good morning! start
10:06 am
smooth_pappa

done
10:06 am
smooth_pappa

used greens and 1 guess
10:14 am
Inge

done with greens and guesses and restarts!!!
10:21 am
gman

smooth_pappa you are one fast mutha! I assume you use autofil. If not are you of this planet??
11:29 am
Zugzug7

ok. I'm done. No doubt about it. I guessed 3 times. I think this one was beyond me but glad its over.
11:37 am
brittlefish.com

go
12:10 pm
helenkeller

1:10 pm
brittlefish.com

sheesh. finally. g+r autofill plus two dead end guesses, then a guess followed by another guess that both worked out. yikes.
2:32 pm
sandbox74

go
3:44 pm
sandbox74

wow... I need an aspirin after that one
5:24 pm
itzie

I managed to guess right twice and didn't ever have to start over. I was lucky, I guess.
5:26 pm
drwho

Difficulty score 76.
6:05 pm
jawilke

go... no greens
6:20 pm
jawilke

done
6:20 pm
jawilke

good one
7:40 pm
Jamsicle

Woah!! I've *never* guessed at a puzzle before, and I took 2 guesses like others, and did it. wild...
7:43 pm
spreadeagle

Okay, I'm back after taking a LONG break. I've read the comments and Jawilke is the only one that (maybe) seems to have solved this puppy without guessing. Does anybody have any tips for the rest of us on how to solve this without guessing? I really HATE guessing.......
8:29 pm
Andy

I had to guess twice.
8:53 pm
K.Elisabet

One guess for me, which looked like it was leading to a non-unique solution, so I went the other way and everything fell into place easily
9:42 pm
hokie carla

76! Is that the highest we've seen?
9:43 pm
hokie carla

I did trial & error (that just sounds better than guessing :-) ) once.
10:11 pm
drwho

No, 76 is not the highest. We've had a 77, a 78, 2 94s and a 101.
11:02 pm
moedog

once more into the breach..
11:16 pm
moedog

oh man, i don't like this at ALL
11:28 pm
jinglebells

To solve without guessing, look at the two-value boxes and how they affect the rest of the row/column.
11:30 pm
jawilke

spread, I don't know how far you got before guessing, but I never really "guess" on the board. I usually solve them by narrowing down to pairs and triples (by crosshatching, hidden/naked/pointing pairs) and try to find the pair with the most information game. Then I solve that path depth first in my head until I come to a solution or an inconsistency. I can apply XY chains and other advanced strategies, but it usually requires me to use greens or scratch paper to see the candidates.
11:31 pm
jawilke

*gain, not game :)
11:32 pm
jawilke

And also, this one was haard. Ty Dr. God!
11:45 pm
moedog

ugh
11:46 pm
moedog

is this what whiplash of the brain feels like?