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Difficulty: Easy Monday, January 21, 2008

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CHAT LOG for Monday, January 21, 2008

12:21 am
drwho

Difficulty score 14.
1:50 am
Phil

start
2:03 am
Phil

done
2:25 am
FranMag

start
2:34 am
FranMag

done
3:21 am
Alessandi

go
3:59 am
Alessandi

I have to give up for now, to many distractions and interruptions.
4:17 am
e84

go
4:25 am
e84

done no greens
4:39 am
eyeman

Done, but took longer than expected.
5:58 am
kixx

go
6:09 am
kixx

done
6:14 am
Andy

start
6:14 am
Andy

which is to say... go
6:22 am
Andy

done
6:22 am
Andy

no greens
6:23 am
Andy

That was very easy
6:59 am
spreadeagle

Done, no greens, but I agree with eyeman...
7:00 am
Andy

I've always wondered if a puzzle is easier or harder depending on where you start... sometimes, I start looking for all 1s, then 2s, etc. Sometimes, when I'm bored, I start at 9s and go down. I've always wondered if some puzzles just work faster when you start at one or the other or even from the middle...
7:04 am
Andy

Having said that... I don't remember if I started today' at 1 or 9... (I've done 3 since then so my mind has been sufficiently scrambled :)
7:05 am
spreadeagle

I do the same thing. Many times it seems easier to start with the 9's.
7:06 am
Andy

I just wonder if, when you're in the middle of doing the puzzle, the fact that you started from one side or the other (which therefore changes what's filled in) makes the puzzle that much easier or harder to solve... those times when one person says it's dead simple and others are stuck scratching their heads.
7:09 am
Andy

Having said that, it should make a difference. One way might expose Unique Rectangles or XY-Wings and the like while the other makes them not even necessary.
7:10 am
spreadeagle

I believe the way a person thinks can make it easy or hard to use a given method of solution.
7:11 am
Andy

That too...
7:29 am
brittlefish.com

go
7:42 am
brittlefish.com

done. no green.
7:46 am
K.Elisabet

Andy, if you're still here - I never get as systematic as searching 1's, 2's etc. until I'm fairly stuck. I start by waiting for something obvious to jump out at me - today it was a 4. then I tend to just concentrate on the denser parts of the puzzle until I have to play the counting game as I call it.
7:47 am
Andy

Makes sense...
7:48 am
Andy

I generally look for the obvious, starting at 1 (or 9) and going up (or down). Sometimes I open a puzzle and say, a 5 goes here and start at 5s and then jump around. After I get all of the obvious out of the way, I start looking at blocks, rows, and columns and saying: What's missing and working through that. Then I double back to the original cross-hatching and alternate until stuck. Then I try to find pairs, triples, and any advanced things I can find without greens. Then out come the greens :)
7:49 am
K.Elisabet

I agree with spreadeagle too - Ihave a lot of trouble taking in a whole row or column at a time so it is way easier for me to see a naked pair in a box, e.g., than a missing digit. so I look for what is easy for me. sometimes it takes me a long time to notice something that only needed the starter squares to deduce.
7:50 am
Andy

Some days I'm just lazy or want a "quick fix" and I go auto g+r very quickly. I try to never do that on day-of puzzles, just archives (of which I have 14 left so those days are coming to an end...)
7:54 am
Andy

Make that 13...
7:55 am
K.Elisabet

I've been weaning myself from auto green the last few weeks - was using a borrowed computer and didn't have my bookmarks so I had to go through a bit more trouble to copy the script etc. Now I'm tempted to erase it from my bookmarks because I think I learned patience (a bit). I use a totally different mindset once the greens are up.
7:55 am
Andy

I agree. Once I am through the archives, I will probably remove my bookmark as well. I don't know why, but I don't feel right using it on day-of puzzles.
7:57 am
K.Elisabet

I'm definitely keeping the erase pencilmarks script though!
7:58 am
Andy

Absolutely :)
7:59 am
Andy

I am hearing a lot of really loud thumping and banging downstairs. I really hope my son is playing EyeToy on the Playstation2 otherwise the house might actually be falling down.
8:06 am
Andy

12...
8:07 am
Andy

'course, I left myself only easies to do...
8:16 am
Andy

11...
8:18 am
K.Elisabet

Dang! Messed up an easy and have to start over. That hasn't happened for a long time. Guess my zen approach works better after I have had my coffee...
8:18 am
Andy

lol
8:46 am
spellacked

astoundingly easy. thanks for not challenging me on monday morning
8:46 am
Andy

Ok. I have only 9 left in the archives, all easies, all from Dec 2006.
8:46 am
Andy

I'll stop here and come back to it later.
8:47 am
Andy

Have a great day all!
8:47 am
Alessandi

go, again, lets try without interuptions.
8:53 am
UnikeTheHunter

Go.
9:07 am
Alessandi

more interruptions, I'll have to come back, but still not finding it easy.
9:08 am
katmama

go
9:12 am
Inge

done Did anyone ever explain how Rankinggate came about? How did mkt (?) get those extra points?
9:14 am
Inge

*not mkt, another three letter handlle which I cannot find in the elites
9:15 am
Cathy

Inge - when I emailed and asked, Dr God said therehad been a short lag between new puzzleflip and rankings calc, and he must have done the puzzle during those few minutes at the flip. Said he was fixing that problem.
9:16 am
katmama

done
9:17 am
Inge

thanks Cathy for that explanation. Does Dr. G know taht Angiplumpit was planning a sacrifice of a lamb?
9:17 am
twstedangel

go
9:22 am
twstedangel

done
9:25 am
UnikeTheHunter

Done, no greens. I would have saved time if I hadn't been looking for pairs all the time.
9:30 am
ypsigirl

done
9:56 am
trueheart11

go!
10:24 am
trueheart11

done. no greens
10:52 am
jawilke

go
10:54 am
jawilke

done
11:22 am
killeracc

what are greens??
11:24 am
broll

killer - go to help, above
11:25 am
killeracc

uh
11:25 am
killeracc

am i suppose to hit ok?
11:25 am
broll

ok in reference to what?
11:27 am
killeracc

oh i see ..ok
11:29 am
broll

greens (and reds) are possibles for a particular square, accessed by "shift" and "alt" keys; wonderful helps provided by DrGod, the creator of this site
11:41 am
killeracc

go
12:54 pm
Alessandi

lets try again,go.
1:08 pm
Alessandi

done, at last, too many interruptions before, that was more like it.
1:25 pm
smooth_pappa

start
1:29 pm
smooth_pappa

done... super easy
1:29 pm
smooth_pappa

oh yeah, no greens
2:50 pm
sandbox74

go
2:55 pm
sandbox74

done... no greens.. have a great day
3:03 pm
Montreal13

done - have a great day all !
3:11 pm
abmoraz

start
3:20 pm
abmoraz

done
4:17 pm
lynslee

start
4:21 pm
lynslee

finished how good am i virgin or wot
4:21 pm
torgone

Good job!
4:23 pm
lynslee

okay off to bed might be 4.20pm were you are but its 22.20pm were i am
4:24 pm
torgone

Sleep tight ..
4:28 pm
hurshy

torbaby
4:28 pm
torgone

Hurshbaby!
4:28 pm
hurshy

hows things
4:29 pm
torgone

Good and bad ..
4:29 pm
hurshy

what's bad?
4:29 pm
torgone

I'm flying to Ohio tonight for my mum's funeral ..
4:30 pm
hurshy

oh, i'm so sorry
4:30 pm
torgone

She was sick for a long time ..Alzheimer's ..
4:30 pm
hurshy

ah, that's not pleasant.
4:32 pm
torgone

She was pretty tough .. she survived longer than anyone thought she would ..
4:32 pm
hurshy

how old was she?
4:33 pm
torgone

82
4:33 pm
hurshy

that's a long life
4:34 pm
pabtrek

sorry to hear your Mom died torgone
4:34 pm
torgone

Thank you ..
4:35 pm
hurshy

so what's good?
4:35 pm
torgone

I'm not dead ..
4:35 pm
hurshy

is that it?
4:36 pm
hurshy

i mean is that what you had in mind when you said good and bad?
4:36 pm
torgone

I'm feeling good .. still losing weight ..I have my kids near me ..Lots of good ..
4:36 pm
hurshy

ok
4:37 pm
torgone

How's by you?
4:37 pm
hurshy

good and bad also
4:38 pm
torgone

I brought out my bad ...
4:39 pm
hurshy

i just have a lot of decisions and i don't like any of my options and i hate that everything impacts everything else.
4:40 pm
torgone

I'm sure all will work out ..
4:40 pm
hurshy

yeah, right
4:42 pm
torgone

I'm trying to remember a trite bit of wisdom I saw once ..
4:43 pm
torgone

Probably wouldn't help much anyway . .
4:43 pm
hurshy

prolly not
4:43 pm
torgone

I am sorry for your troubles ..
4:44 pm
pabtrek

something like "when God closes a door, he opens a window somewhere"
4:44 pm
hurshy

hey, at least i have my cats
4:45 pm
torgone

There you go .. And they love you ..
4:45 pm
pabtrek

cats are very important, they never judge and they give unconditional love
4:45 pm
hurshy

yep, they're glad i'm home
4:46 pm
torgone

..as long as you feed them ..
4:46 pm
pabtrek

have you thawed out yet
4:46 pm
hurshy

oh, yeah, i had lots of layers, i was fine, my toes were numb but that's about it
4:47 pm
torgone

Looks pretty chilly in Ohio ..
4:47 pm
pabtrek

you were smarter than the giants coach, his face got so red that I was afraid it was going to crack
4:47 pm
hurshy

it was pretty chilly in green bay last night
4:48 pm
hurshy

red is ok, it's when it goes bloodless that you worry
4:48 pm
torgone

It was apparently too chilly in Foxborough yeaterday ..
4:48 pm
hurshy

oh are you a chargers fan?
4:49 pm
torgone

Yep ..
4:49 pm
hurshy

i'm a packer fan, obviously.
4:50 pm
pabtrek

I don't know who I want to win, I was going for the Packers but now that's out
4:50 pm
pabtrek

the super bowl that is
4:50 pm
torgone

I like the Packers too .. This is going to be one boring Superbowl ..
4:50 pm
hurshy

yeah, who cares. even their colors are the same.
4:51 pm
brittlefish.com

go 1/15/2008
4:51 pm
hurshy

yeah, go 1/15!! you can kick 1/14's butt!!
4:52 pm
pabtrek

LOL
4:52 pm
brittlefish.com

ha!
4:56 pm
torgone

I just pwnd 10/27/07 ..
4:56 pm
hurshy

what's pwnd?
4:57 pm
torgone

That's leet speak for owned ..
4:57 pm
hurshy

what's a leet?
4:58 pm
torgone

People who spend all day on the internet and like that .. It's short for elite ..
4:58 pm
brittlefish.com

i think torgone means in the language of vegetables (or is that leeks?), s/he kicked 10/27/07's butt
4:59 pm
torgone

That's where lol and such come from ..
4:59 pm
hurshy

tor is a he, don't you see his little blue person?
4:59 pm
brittlefish.com

he, just saw that. was being lazy.
4:59 pm
hurshy

yes but i know lol, i just didn't know leet
5:00 pm
torgone

You don't spend your life in chatrooms, n00b ..
5:00 pm
hurshy

no, not most of it
5:01 pm
torgone

Neither do I, but I do get around teh intarwebs a bit and see some this stuff ..
5:02 pm
hurshy

i get too bored with it.
5:05 pm
torgone

I get bored too ..
5:05 pm
hurshy

why do you keep doing it then?
5:06 pm
torgone

Because I don't have much of a life ..
5:07 pm
hurshy

well, i don't either. i haven't got any friends, at least, not in the area. but there are books...
5:07 pm
Atalante

and cats ...
5:08 pm
torgone

Not having a life is actually the source of most of what's on the internet, so I guess I relate a little bit ..
5:08 pm
hurshy

and atalantes
5:08 pm
Atalante

those are very boring
5:09 pm
hurshy

no, atalantes can draw and they know all the sciency words and they will even have tea with you at the ritz
5:09 pm
Atalante

LOL well thats not exactly a hardship!
5:09 pm
hurshy

i would relate to that too, tor, but then, that would depress me further, to dwell on it, etc.
5:10 pm
hurshy

well you said "cats" and what hardships have they got? mine, i mean?
5:10 pm
Atalante

erm ....!
5:11 pm
hurshy

i mean, sure, feral cats have a tough time of it, but, ours are so comfortable.
5:11 pm
Atalante

mine is traumatised. I just took the piece of paper she was trying to rip into 1000 pieces away from her
5:12 pm
hurshy

oh the felinity!
5:12 pm
Atalante

oh yes. much angst and glaring
5:12 pm
torgone

Paper shredder with fur ..
5:13 pm
Atalante

she really is. I could hire her out by the hour
5:13 pm
hurshy

there you go, just give sily some documents with personally identifiable info.
5:13 pm
torgone

I know a guy who makes pretty good money on the side shredding paper ..
5:14 pm
Atalante

from the bank details he sees before shredding???
5:16 pm
torgone

He picks up old file boxes from lawyers and such, charges for the shredding, and if they want sella the folders and stuff back to them ..
5:16 pm
Atalante

oh cool! nice easy way to make money
5:17 pm
torgone

I think his kids feed the shredder ..low overhead ..
5:17 pm
hurshy

hmmm.... would it pay enough to live on?
5:17 pm
Atalante

was just wondering that
5:18 pm
torgone

I don't think so .. It's supplemental income ..
5:19 pm
torgone

But if you had a big vehicle and a lot of contacts in offices ..
5:20 pm
torgone

..and slave labor ..
5:21 pm
hurshy

i can't believe i'm still so sleepy
5:21 pm
Atalante

kids are great slave labour
5:22 pm
brittlefish.com

done. no green.
6:23 pm
helenkeller

6:23 pm
helenkeller


6:28 pm
killeracc

if i said i used no greens but used 600+ reds....does that contradict anything?
6:31 pm
helenkeller

no greens
11:04 pm
Andy

go 12/7/06
11:13 pm
Andy

Game delay on account of possible mouse in room or nearby
11:13 pm
Andy

Game delay on account of possible mouse in room
11:13 pm
Andy

Game delay on account of possible mouse in room or nearby
11:13 pm
Andy

Game delay on account of possible mouse in room or nearby
11:13 pm
Andy

Game delay on account of possible mouse in room or nearby

11:13 pm
Andy

God I hate it when the chatterbox does that :(
11:14 pm
mamabear

Andy is putting out a 5 mouse alert!! Stand by
11:14 pm
Andy

lol
11:14 pm
Andy

And I know it's not my computer because it's a laptop. Get it? No mouse? I'll be here all week.
11:15 pm
mamabear

laptop here too, but wireless mouse - he usually behaves
11:15 pm
Mayan_Warrior

If it were my house and my mouse, it would likely be more than a 5 mouse alert... it's that kind of winter out on the farm!
11:16 pm
Andy

It's been a mousy winter here too. Old house, cold winter. So far, the cat's only managed to get her paw stuck in a glue trap.
11:17 pm
Mayan_Warrior

Hmmm... my 4 cats have only managed 1 decapitation. It's my dog that's the mouser.
11:18 pm
Andy

lol!! really?? that's funny!
11:18 pm
mamabear

had a few of em about a year ago - my broom acted as mouser
11:18 pm
Andy

They don't show their little noses in the kitchen thanks to the cat who spends the nights on guard down there. But since our bedroom is in the attic, we hear a lot of it on the other side of the wall
11:19 pm
Andy

Do dogs throw up the heads/skins the way cats do? Might be a cleaner solution :)
11:19 pm
Andy

(not to be gross or anything)
11:19 pm
mamabear

excuse me........
11:19 pm
Mayan_Warrior

They kind of eat them so there are no juicy remnants.
11:20 pm
Andy

oooh... feature!
11:20 pm
mamabear

ok.... puke time
11:20 pm
Andy

Did you eat a mouse too???
11:20 pm
Andy

*ducks fast*
11:21 pm
Andy

(to avoid impending broom strike)
11:21 pm
mamabear

damn... I thought the label said chocolate mousse!
11:21 pm
Andy

LOL
11:21 pm
Jamsicle

ha ha ha :)
11:21 pm
Andy

you're totally cracking up my wife (who never posts here)
11:22 pm
mamabear

"Jamsicle"????? cute name
11:22 pm
Jamsicle

Thanks!
11:23 pm
Mayan_Warrior

Cool picture too, as is yours, mamabear
11:23 pm
Andy

done with that one, finally :)
11:23 pm
mamabear

danke!
11:23 pm
Andy

go 12/14/06
11:24 pm
Mayan_Warrior

How can you sudoku and focus when there's mousy conversation???
11:24 pm
mamabear

sudoku in one hand, broom in the other
11:24 pm
Andy

ADD
11:24 pm
Andy

It's easy to solve -- look! shiny things!
11:24 pm
Mayan_Warrior

AHA! go figure
11:24 pm
mamabear

SUBTRACT
11:25 pm
Andy

Be fruitful and...
11:25 pm
mamabear

DIVIDE!!!!
11:25 pm
mamabear

no.... wait......
11:25 pm
Andy

and conquer?
11:26 pm
Andy

Ok, you are all too much fun right now... I doubt I will finish my 8 remaining puzzles to make it to Elite status tonight...
11:26 pm
mamabear

FIND THE SQUARE ROOT OF 1,493!!!!
11:38 pm
Andy

go 12/16/06... last one I can handle tonight, falling asleep... no elite for me tomorrow...
11:39 pm
mamabear

it's dark, put on elite so you can see!!!
11:41 pm
Jamsicle

I don't know how I solved an expert... I'm so darn tired!
11:48 pm
Andy

nite
11:49 pm
Jamsicle

g'night Andy